Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Turkish 2

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Turkish Wikiversity[edit]

main page Request for a new language edition: Wikiversity Turkish 2
submitted verification final decision
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The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code tr (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Turkish Language name in English
Language name Türkçe Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q256 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Turkish
  • native label (P1705) = Türkçe
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Oghuz languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = tr
  • writing system (P282) = Turkish alphabet
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 71,435,850, 350,000, 78,527,240, 380,300


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community ro-wp:Necrocapo (P), Nerval (NP), Onur (N), YiiD (N), Absar, Myildirim2007, Crochet.david, Srhat(N), Erkan Yilmaz, Emperyan (N), Erdemaslancan
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Turkish (closed due to reform) Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wikiversity" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikiversity talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Asia/Istanbul "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

There should be a turkish version too.I think it will be nice. Necrocapo.

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Support I would be glad to translate English and French Wikiversities to Turkish as much as I can. Thinking of the educational system in Turkey, many people critically needs the Turkish "Vikiversite" to educate themselves on the topics they desire to learn. The Turkish Wikipedia (aka Vikipedi) ,Wikisource (aka Vikikaynak), Wikiquote (aka Vikisöz) and Wikibooks (Vikikitap) are doing a nice job with over its 50,000 users and improving day by day. I believe we can take the challenge and create a nice work. --Nerval 05:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Support - There are a lot of students in Turkey, and many of the Wikipedists are from those students. I am sure that if such a Wikiversity opens, many people would be glad and they will be eager to contribute.

    There is a complete lack of organization in Turkish online researching and several sites are offering to "sell" information to students. I think that is unfair, so with no doubt, a Turkish Wikiversity is needed as soon as possible. In addition, the recent rise of Turkish Wikipedia is unnegligible about this matter. YiiD 12:15, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Support--Absar 14:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
    Simple votes will be ignored in accordance with the Language proposal policy. —{admin} Pathoschild 01:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Support--3210 02:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
    Simple votes will be ignored in accordance with the Language proposal policy. —{admin} Pathoschild 02:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I am inclined to support this. Although Turkish wikipedia is still tiny in comparasion to other language wikipedias, I feel it has the prospect of growing rapidly based on my experience there in the past several months. -- Cat chi? 11:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Support--Uannis 20:04, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
    Simple votes will be ignored in accordance with the Language proposal policy. Arria Belli 14:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Support I agree with the others. A Turkish Wikiversity would be very beneficial for the students of Turkey and Northern Cyprus. Runningfridgesrule 18:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Support --Memty 08:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
    Simple votes will be ignored in accordance with the Language proposal policy. Arria Belli 14:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Support There are more than 85 million Turkish speakers around the world, with 72 million being in Turkey. Furthermore, people speaking Tatar and Azeri, as well as many other Turkic dialects/languages can understand Turkish. Even the number of speakers should be enough to start a Turkish Wikiversity (Vikiversite) project, which will help more than 100 million people around the world. --Scientia Est Potentia 11:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
    Simple votes will be ignored in accordance with the Language proposal policy. Arria Belli 12:09, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
  • a little Support un bon projet, mais cela maque des pages de wikiversité comme on peut le voir dans certain autres pojet existant ou en incubation. Je propose bien entendu les services de mon robot inter wiki afin de lier les pages des différents projet pour favoriser la création de nouveaux cours Crochet.david 20:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Support--It is very good project for the students in Turkey. I would like to open Turkish Wikiversity, too (in turkish:Vikiversite). The Turkish Wikipedia is improving every day. I think Vikiversite will improve, too. I agree this project. Srhat 18:44, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Support: Hello, I am in different Wikiversities active and would support a Turkish Wikiversity. As one of the above persons explained, there are many people speaking Turkish and a tr.WV would help to connect them beyond physical borders and encourage learning projects. Due to the mission of Wikiversity I believe Wikiversity is a good means to achieve this. Also as one person told there are different Wikimedia projects already established, but since they prefer "assured knowledge" people with e.g. new research could find a home at tr.WV. There is also created now an IRC channel #wikiversity-tr (see here how to connect). ----Erkan Yilmaz (Wikiversity:Chat, wiki blog) 22:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Support--FoPen 15:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
    Simple votes will be ignored in accordance with the Language proposal policy - see also User talk:FoPen, ----Erkan Yilmaz (Wikiversity:Chat, wiki blog) 17:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support - I support it! --Mirzali 22:37, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  • Support --Aycan 11:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
  • Support --Kızıl Şaman 21:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Support Turkish has successful Wiki projects and a Wikiversity would be nice. Kanzler31 03:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Support N KOziTalk 08:05, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - I support this project! --Erdemaslancan 14:10, 30 October 2011 (CET)
  • Support - I support, it can be succesful project. --Kendinciz (talk) 09:12, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Support - Other Tr. projects will contribute its developement.--Kafkasmurat (talk) 11:34, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Support - I support this project! Neden olmasın? --►Cekli829 14:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Support --Adem20 (talk) 17:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Support --By erdo can (talk) 13:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Reluctant support - Even when Turkey's censorship on Wikipedia may be unjust, the establishment of Turkish Wikiversity should prompt the Turkish government into contributing it more and more. I don't know how repressive the project can be, but it should balance Turkish Wikipedia. --George Ho (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
See comments at General discussion. --George Ho (talk) 19:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  • Currently the localisation for Turkish is such that it would not even qualify for a first project in the language. GerardM 16:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Group_statistics
Update: 100.00% 72.88% 26.83%. There has been a nice improvement however there is still more work to be done. The good news is that this effort will benefit all projects including Commons. GerardM 05:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

General discussion[edit]

  • I would like to announce that a incubated Turkish version of Wikiversity on beta has been created [1]. Runningfridgesrule 13:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • FYI Localisation is a precondition to final approval. Given that only 79% of the most important messages have been localised at this time, it falls short from what is expected of second projects for a language. Expected is localisation for all MediaWiki messages and all the extensions used in the WMF. GerardM 12:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Update: tr Türkçe 100.00% 75.79% 29.30% GerardM 08:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC) :)
  • Update: tr Türkçe 100.00% 79.25% 27.08% GerardM 07:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Update: tr Türkçe 100.00% 76.52% 25.10% GerardM 06:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
    • ...now what? Over a year has passed since you last left a message lol. Runningfridgesrule 17:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
      • More than 2 years. Any update? Kanzler31 03:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
  • After experience with English Wikiversity, I now have second thoughts about this. On one hand, establishing more Turkish sister projects should help curb Turkey's political censorship on Wikipedia. On the other hand, some or many courses of English Wikiversity have aged terribly and needs updates. Nevertheless, English Wikiversity has its own Wikijournal subproject, but I will not expect much about Turkish Wikiversity. If Wikijournal becomes an established website, the necessity of having more Wikiversity language sites may be affected. At least I can expect Turkish Wikijournal, but I won't oppose Turkish Wikiversity... yet. Currently, Beta Wikiversity is proposed to be closed since 2013, and the proposal subpage is still open. --George Ho (talk) 19:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)