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Wiktionary Pitcairnese

main page Request for a new language edition: Wiktionary Pitcairnese
submitted verification final decision
Process-stop.svg This proposal has been rejected.
While this request has technically been rejected, in reality this is a request that has been sitting open or on hold for a long time with little evidence of a community coming together to build a project. If a community comes together in the future and makes a new request, LangCom would consider that new request without prejudice.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Though the request was started in 2010, a community never appeared to support the project or to create a test on Incubator. Request is closed. LangCom would entertain a new request if a community appears that is willing to create and support a test. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:00, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code pih (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Pitcairnese Language name in English
Language name Pitkern Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36554 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Pitkern
  • native label (P1705) = Pitkern
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = creole language / English-based creole languages, Anglic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = pih
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 532


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wiktionary" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Pacific/Pitcairn "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal summary
  • Language details: Pitcairnese (pih ISO 639-3)
  • Editing community: Scottius11
    List your user name if you're interested in editing the wiki. Add "N" next to your
    name if you are a native speaker of this language.
  • Relevant pages:
  • External links:
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Arguments in favour

  • I support this--Komit 16:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
  • I support this project in principle, and I am able to contribute editorially, but I am not a native speaker the language. I would however propose a combined Norfuk/Pitkern wiktionary, as this appears to have been successful in the wikipedia format. The two languages/dialects are closely linked linguistically, and the Norfuk language has a significantly larger number of speakers (and larger expatriate community) as well as more readily available published references. Scottius11 05:57, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Pitcairn and Norfolk Islands have a unique place in British colonial history and their language should be preserved as much as possible. I also encourage a combined Norfuk and Pitkern wiktionary. There are native speakers on Norfolk Island, Pitcairn, New Zealand and Australia. fr33kman 20:09, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Support Necessary project. --Sarvaturi (talk) 16:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Arguments against

  • There's less than a hundred speakers. A dictionary of Pitkern at a large Wiktionary, probably the English wiktionary, would be useful, but a Wiktionary of Pitkern is unlikely to go anywhere.--Prosfilaes 18:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

  • There is nobody supporting this proposal... if it stays like this, it will be ignored. GerardM 08:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose The only reason I can think of to create would be completism. Given Pitcairners currently number 46 and are becoming increasingly reliant on other countries, particularly New Zealand, it is likely that Pitcairnese will diminish as a seperate language. As it is, it is only little more than a strong dialect. Aside from this, there is only 1 computer on Pitcairn and I can only see that contributors would be academics rather than native speakers. 92.234.155.108 22:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC) LINK3 22:19, 11 January 2010 (UTC) (Forgot to log in)