Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Thao

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wiktionary Thao
submitted verification final decision
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ssf (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Thao Language name in English
Language name Thau a lalawa Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q676492 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Thao
  • native label (P1705) = Thao, Thaw a lalawa
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, dead language, extinct language, critically endangered language / Formosan languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = ssf
  • writing system (P282) =
  • number of speakers (P1098) =
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wiktionary" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Asia/Taipei "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)


Proposal[edit]

I've notice that some Thao editors are quite active these days. For the Wikipedia project, they've already have their Incubator to update there. And now it seems they also try to build their Wiktionary at the same time. I am here to request for them to create their Incubator for Wiktionary.

Thank you.

Iyumu (talk) 09:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

@Iyumu: About 3 years ago, a Wikipedia request about Thao was rejected because "SIL now categorizes this language as extinct. In that case, the language needs to meet the stricter standards for eligibility of extinct and historical languages, and Thao does not. Project can remain on Incubator." are you willing to make responses to it? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:47, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Comment currently ancient languages are not eligible for new wikis. I have submit request for comment requesting to change this policy and to start allowing ancient languages. Feel free to sign your support here. Thanks in advance, -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 11:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
@Gifnk dlm 2020: Canvassing? Also I'm discussion the Thao itself, not your RFC, see what Prosfilaes answered you about "you can also learn Middle English, Ancient Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, Ancient Egyptian, etc..." --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:07, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
@Liuxinyu970226: I thought that if it’s an extinct language they might be interested in this. I will check out this reply right away. -Gifnk dlm 2020 (talk) 12:14, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: Hi! I would like support both Wikipedia and Wiktionary of Thao too. But for now, do you have any suggestion for us? Thank you.Ripunn (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2021 (UTC)