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Developer Wishlist Survey: propose your ideas[edit]

At the Wikimedia Developer Summit, we decided to organize a Developer Wishlist Survey, and here we go:

The Wikimedia technical community seeks input from developers for developers, to create a high-profile list of desired improvements. The scope of the survey includes the MediaWiki platform (core software, APIs, developer environment, enablers for extensions, gadgets, templates, bots, dumps), the Wikimedia server infrastructure, the contribution process, and documentation.

The best part: we want to have the results published by Wednesday, February 15. Yes, in a month, to have a higher chance to influence the Wikimedia Foundation annual plan FY 2017-18.

There's no time to lose. Propose your ideas before the end of January, either by pushing existing tasks in Phabricator or by creating new ones. You can find instructions on the wiki page. Questions and feedback are welcome especially on the related Talk page.

The voting phase is expected to start on February 6 (tentative). Watch this space (or even better, the wiki page) - SSethi_(WMF) January 21st, 2017 3:07 AM (UTC)

Pages MediaWiki[edit]

How can I get access to edit and create pages MediaWiki without administrator flag, directly in specific projects? Is it possible? Thanks!--Асилзода talk 14:02, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

You can not. Ruslik (talk) 14:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
For what reason? Асилзода talk 14:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Because only administrators (or other users with editinterface) can edit pages in MediaWiki namespace. --Stryn (talk) 15:03, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply! Another question: how to get the rights editinterface? Thanks!--Асилзода talk 15:21, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
There are not any other local user groups with that user right at most wikis, for example see w:tg:Вижа:ListGroupRights. You would not qualify for any of the global user groups that have it.
However, if you can explain what changes you are wanting to make, we can help you find the best way to accomplish it. (Probably either an edit-protected request on the talkpage, or a direct fix to the translation if it's something that should change the message in all wikis using that language (e.g. Tajik).) Thanks. Quiddity (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
I do not need global access. At this point, it is sufficient in three projects, tg.wikipedia, tg.wikibooks, tg.wiktionary. To improve the interface, I need access to the pages MediaWiki. I have experience. Currently, the participants experience difficulty in editing. In tg.wikipedia, I translated a decent amount of gadgets, but time does not stand still, and new gadgets, more comfortable for editing. Thank you!--Асилзода talk 20:25, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
You can apply for temporal adminship on these three projects. Ruslik (talk) 20:29, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Here, or initially in the local community? Асилзода talk 21:38, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Note that if you want to improve tg localization, you should do that at translatewiki instead. Platonides (talk) 21:27, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

hi, any help is appreciated[edit]

I'm a member of wikiproject Medicine, basically this happened to us [1] and so we have a source code but we need someone's help to do 2016 version (of 2015[2]), I can assist in whatever is needed. ...thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 01:21, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I may be able to help. What do you need exactly, Ozzie10aaaa? Platonides (talk) 21:28, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
thank you, Platonides, it looks like it will be resolved[4], the link indicates the original person that did the yearly list[5] for wikiproject Medicine(however, as of today Feb. 25, two months after the start of the year, when it should have been due, such a list had not been generated, hence the reason why alternatives such as posting here were sought), I thank you for responding, should anything go astray i'll come back here, thanks again--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:06, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Fonts way too big[edit]

I am using both Chrome and firefox with Win10 64 bit on my desktop. The type is about ten times too large. You can see a sample screen shot at for how is rendered.

For me, all Wiki pages I find with Google have this problem.

It happens whether I am logged in or not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Roedyg (talk)

Have you tried "Ctrl" + "-" combination? Ruslik (talk) 20:06, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Actually "Ctrl" + "0" is often preferable, as that disables the zoom changing, going back to default size. Platonides (talk) 21:22, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

A little problem[edit]

Hi everyone! I've been wanting to fix something, on the main page of Nahuatl Wikipedia, the lower section looks narrow, and I can’t fix the width of the page. Who can help me? --Akapochtli (talk) 22:32, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

@Akapochtli: What is "the lower section" exactly? Name welcome. What is the problem with "the width of the page"? Have you considered using CSS instead of tables? To allow others to help they have to be able to see the same problem under similar conditions... Which browsers and versions have you tested, and what is your screen resolution? Thanks! :) --Malyacko (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
One image say more than thousand words. This way it looks on my pc and smart phone:
Main page Nahuatl.jpg
Thanks. --Akapochtli (talk) 01:56, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I supposed everyone else sees the same thing... --Akapochtli (talk) 02:03, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
@Akapochtli: No, not everyone else sees the same thing and that's why it's needed to clearly describe what the problem is. :) I can reproduce your problem in Chromium. I cannot reproduce the problem in Firefox as the two items "Tlamatiliztli neneuhcayotl" and "Ma moyolicatzin" take the full horizontal space. (For unknown reasons these two items are cells inside of a table.) That table has no "width:100%" property hence browsers can interpret how to (not) display it. --Malyacko (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

@Malyacko: I get it! Well, my browser is Google Crome, but, I checked its historical and found some editions from 2007 (september 9-12th) when was modified bottom section. So, I just made this change: and voila!

Really I don't know if it was a good edition but maybe it works, what do you think? Meanwhile thank you very much! --Akapochtli (talk) 10:21, 9 March 2017 (UTC)






Automated Temperature Conversion (template?)[edit]

Does anything like this exist? If it doesn't, where can I make a suggestion for it? Or talk about it?

I often see temperatures noted in "non-native" temperature scales in articles. For me, that would be Celsius and Kelvin. (among possible others)

It depends on the article and usage, but if it's not noted in Fahrenheit, and I want to know what the comparative value is, I have to find a converter and convert it manually. Which is a pain.

It would be nice if temperatures, whatever their chosen scale is in an article, would be shown in at least these three common values, possibly with a mouse pop-up hover-rollover.

This would be a nice addition to Wikipedia.

Of course, then you have the issue of applying this (new) system to all of the temperatures in all of the articles, which I assume will have to be done manually, but which will eventually be done over some amount of time as editors apply it.

(it seems weird to use the Wikipedia system as a "forum", so I hope I am even doing this correctly)

--WillBo (talk) 05:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Many Wikipedia projects have conversion templates already. See en:Template:Convert, for example. Those aren't necessarily available on Meta or other projects where they seem less necessary. But you can always create one if the wiki you are working on doesn't have it. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:22, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Global.js not loading consistently[edit]

For a couple of weeks now, I think since the update of two weeks ago, my global (and local) .js scripts are not executing consistently. I'm on Chrome, and Ctrl-Shift-R sometimes (but not always) helps. Things work fine on my iPad using Safari. Any thoughts? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81:: See for how to debug. --Malyacko (talk) 14:34, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, @Malyacko. Any idea what I should even be looking for? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

POV-Ray scene description file format[edit]

POV-Ray scene description files are currently deprecated for uploading to Wikimedia sites (see, for example, the deletion of ). This is a great pity, because these are very useful as sources for 3D images, such as this image and this animation. Would it be possible to create appropriately sandboxed support for POV-Ray scene files in a way that is similar to the support for, say, SVG?

The first thing to write, of course, would be a validator, to prevent the upload of arbitrary file content. It looks like the POV-Ray SDL has a well-defined formal grammar, so writing a validator wouldn't be too hard. If anyone is interested in actually doing this, please let me know, and I might have a crack at coding a validator based on the spec given here. -- The Anome (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Source Code for Templates[edit]

Hello. I wrote a question on Template:Infobox winter's talk page, which can be seen here. However, it's been several days and I have received no response. I was wondering if this forum could answer my questions. When I check the page's history, I see that people have edited the source code of the respective template(s), but I don't know how to find this source code. All I get if I press "edit source" is the page structure. Where can I obtain the source code? MoneyHurricane 01:13, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure why you think that you can find the answer in an forum on a completely unrelated project? You should ask on enwiki, for instance, on en:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Ruslik (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2017 (UTC)