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Manual requests[edit]

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Pending speedy deletion requests on nahwiktionary[edit]

Status:    On hold

Please check wikt:nah:Neneuhcāyōtl:Para borrar en breve (edit: 28 subcats, 42 pages ATOW. 18:58, 13 August 2018 (UTC)). The only administator there has not been active in the last year (edits, logs). CC User:Marrovi as the author of most (all?) of those requests. Kind regards, Peter Bowman (talk) 18:53, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done, the "only administrator" you mentioned as well seems to be the author of most of these articles. I suppose it's best to wait until he returns. In the meantime, a ping (@Frank C. Müller:) should suffice. Regards, --Vogone (talk) 00:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
He really is the only one right now, no need to quote. I agree with you, though - it looked to me like he had left the project, but now I see he's still active elsewhere. Would it make sense to put this request on hold for one week or two until he responds? Peter Bowman (talk) 12:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
If you prefer, sure. I used quotation marks just to make it clear that I referred to someone whom you had previously mentioned. I am sorry if this has been misunderstood. Kind regards, —Vogone (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi! Thanks for pinging me and informing me via my german Wikipedia-user-page!
Yes, I still am an admin at the nahuatl Wiktionary, and I think even I still am a bureaucrat. But I retired from this project in about 2014. In the years between 2011 and 2013 except Marrovi I was nearly the only active user in the nahuatl wiktionary.
In contrast to me Marrovi is a native nahuatl speaker, and he was a studious author in many of our projects.
But also he is a bit special, and in the meantime he is blocked on many projects. On the one hand he edits a lot, but on the other hand he often ignores the rules and even the manifold advice of his co-authors, and he nearly never explains or justifies his actions.
In the nahuatl Wiktionary I had established a certain system in building the Wiktionary and representing the language. Marrovi was adding a lot of words, and I nearly always had to correct or complete his entries. I could accept his knowledge of the language, and he accepted my way of structuring the language in the Wiktionary.
But we only were two! And we stayed only two! After three years of activity I began to doubt, if it was so meaningfull to write a dictionary with only two authors: one who thinks, he knows how to write a Wiktionary, but without any deeper knowledge of the nahuatl language, and one native language speaker who not actually is able to contribute as a member of a team, of a community, which has certain rules. So I gave it up and concentrated on german Wikipedia, Commons, and german Wiktionary.
I had a look on Marrovi's deletion requests (Neneuhcayotl:Para borrar en breve). Obviously he tries to reorganize the nahuatl wiktionary. I don't know if his intention is meaningfull or includes a methodical plan, and - pardon me - I have no desire to clarify this. I guess, Marrovi nowadays is the only human user in the nahuatl wiktionary, and I also guess, this is a rather dangerous situation.
So, I actually don't know, what do do!
gruß, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 11:26, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi, @Frank C. Müller:, thank you for your comments (and thanks @Vogone: for reaching him on dewiki, I should have done that in the first place!). I have advised Marrovi to specify the sources he based his edits on, hoping it's a starting point to work on. mfG, Peter Bowman (talk) 11:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

I show you my photographs about my works and meetings at the University of Warsaw, in Poland [1], at UNAM (my mother university) and in Wikipedia about the Nahuatl languages, because now you can prove that I'm not an ordinary user as you were led to believe, many years of work guarantee me, is bother for me that you get ripped off. See you.--Marrovi (talk) 01:27, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Taller sobre lengua náhuatl en archivos, Universidad de Varsovia y Archivo General de la Nación.jpg
Your questions have been answered, can you read my answer in my user talk, they never make a message on my user talk, about questions. Obviusly I need help with a new changes over the Nahuatl languages. --Marrovi (talk) 12:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Frank C. Müller, Are you understand Nahuatl languages? What is dangerous situation? No is the same Classical Nahuatl to Central Nahuatl or Huasteca Nahuatl, the words are differents, by this reason is neccesary to delete many articles. The Nahuatl laguages convention was the next month at INALI Institute; the standard alphabet for Nahuan languages is now A, B, CH, E, G, H, I, K, L, M, N, O, P, S, T, U, W, X, Y. Now they are making researchs about linguistic seasons, to connect ideas between comunities and to know the idioms or variants. --Marrovi (talk) 12:04, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

The Nahuatl variants are a rich heritage for Mexico, Now I have a standard language (Nawatlahtolli), but we have got many Nahuan languages very interesting as Tetelcingo Nahuatl, Mecayapan Nahuatl, Pipil, Durango Nahuatl, Huasteca Nahuatl, Tlaxcala Nahuatl, Texcoco Nahuatl (all languages are diferents) as soon as Hochdeusch (Deutsch), Bavarian, Palatine, Low German, Swebisch, Swiss or Tirol.

Obviously I try to reorganize the nahuatl wiktionary, because this Mexican language is the most studied in the Americas with Maya, Quechua and Guarani. I'm to studied Nahuan languages by 15 years ago with Native people and Nahuatl institutes, as other persons, I know and I speak this language, but I am not Native speaker.--Marrovi (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia projects are not atractive projects by indigenous communities, is very complicated but is the reality, User:Tepoxteco is only the Nahuatl Native speaker in Wikipedia projects.--Marrovi (talk) 12:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

I continue here.
@Marrovi: Thanks for your comment! You asked me "What is dangerous situation?": Dangerous is a wiki-project with only one user. Normally the wiki-projects are based on a community of many co-authors with a mutual supervision. This is the structural base of our quality. But a project with only one author has actually no supervision at all, and hence no proved quality. The quality is not proved: that's the danger.
@Peter Bowman: Where did you advise Marrovi to specify the sources?
gruß, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 12:47, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
@Frank C. Müller: I gave him my advice on eswiktionary, and his original request for help (several pending speedy deletions on nahwikt) is here. Regards, Peter Bowman (talk) 14:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
@Peter Bowman: Thanks for the links!
It's a bit complicated to keep together in mind all these edits in all these projects, all of them concerning the nahuatl languages and their representations in the different wiktionaries!
gruß, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Frank C Müller invented many words in different nahua spellings, it's a chaos to eliminate that incorrect material in nahwictionary.--Marrovi (talk) 04:19, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Peter Bowman, Marrovi, and Frank C. Müller: I'll try another quick attempt to get this section resolved, finally. The situation seems to be:

  1. Frank de facto vanished from the project.
  2. Marrovi updates Wiktionary according to his knowledge of the language's standards and varieties.
  3. Tepoxteco is the only known native speaker of this language who contributes to Wikipedia.

Is my assumption correct that these updates by Marovi are not disputed? Otherwise perhaps Peter could arrange a review by Tepoxteco, if necessary (I unfortunately lack skills of the Spanish language). Should Marrovi's delete tags indeed turn out to be undisputed, I think it will be okay to proceed with the deletion of those pages. --Vogone (talk) 01:35, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

I have asked @Tepoxteco: to review those entries via email, he's been pointed to this thread in order to give his oppinion on this matter. Regards, Peter Bowman (talk) 13:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
@Peter Bowman and Tepoxteco: Any update? PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:11, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I have no news from Tepoxteco. Peter Bowman (talk) 22:20, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Global deletion and replacement[edit]

Status:    Done

As per the suggestion at the Synchbot page, I hereby make the following requests:

  1. Please go to and delete all the pages under these titles: User:Aristitleism, User:Aristitleism/.*, User_talk:Aristitleism/.*, User:Tiemianwusi, User:Tiemianwusi/.*, User_talk:Tiemianwusi/.*
  2. Please globally replace the word Aristitleism on any page with Tiemianwusi

Please proceed with my requests to the extent possible. Thank you so much. --Tiemianwusi (talk) 13:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Please, create a list of pages to be deleted. Ruslik (talk) 20:40, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Where possible, please delete the unused redirects and userpages according to the following lists. Thank you so much --Tiemianwusi (talk) 04:35, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

List 1: unused redirects[edit]

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wikt:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done w:eu:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done Linedwell [talk] w:fr:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done w:gl:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done w:hi:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done Aldnonymous w:id:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done incubator:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done w:it:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done w:ja:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done Aldnonymous w:jv:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done — regards, Revi 08:14, 26 January 2019 (UTC) w:ko:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done Aldnonymous s:ko:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done Aldnonymous w:lo:User:Aristitleism/ThaiTalkPage
w:lo:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg Done w:lv:User talk:Aristitleism Yes check.svg all --Vogone (talk) metawiki:User:Aristitleism
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List 2: unused userpages[edit]

Wiki Page Yes check.svg Done w:ar:User talk:Tiemianwusi Yes check.svg Done --AldnonymousBicara? 04:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC) s:ar:User talk:Tiemianwusi Yes check.svg Done -Wim b w:bjn:User talk:Tiemianwusi Yes check.svg Done w:bn:User talk:Tiemianwusi Black check.svg Already done commons:User:Tiemianwusi/001
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commons:User talk:Tiemianwusi/Achieves_1 Yes check.svg Done w:de:User talk:Tiemianwusi Yes check.svg Done userpages, enwiki does not delete user talk --Rschen7754 16:47, 25 November 2018 (UTC) w:User:Tiemianwusi/Archive
w:User talk:Tiemianwusi
w:User talk:Tiemianwusi/Archive_1
w:User talk:Tiemianwusi/Archive_2
w:User talk:Tiemianwusi/Archive_3
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w:lo:User talk:Tiemianwusi Yes check.svg Done w:lv:User talk:Tiemianwusi Yes check.svg all --Vogone (talk) metawiki:User:Tiemianwusi
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zh.wikipedia.orgYes check.svg Doneby admin Kalicine730.--Cohaf (talk) 06:05, 22 December 2018 (UTC) w:zh:User talk:Tiemianwusi
I don't think this can be done for forever, I suggest using Synchbot for this request.--AldNonymousBicara? 19:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Tiemianwusi, care to proceed with my suggested step?--AldNonymousBicara? 00:51, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
All tagged for deletion, waiting for local admin to delete.--AldnonymousBicara? 04:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Alaa :)..! 17:03, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Potential copyright infringement at Bosnian Wikinews[edit]

Status:    In progress

I was looking at articles from n:bs:Kategorija:Novembar 2018., and I found a few (if not many) of them to be copied from sources. One article n:bs:Darko Mrđa i Zoran Babić proglašeni krivim za počinjenje krivičnog djela Zločini protiv čovječnosti is apparently copied mostly from portions of one government article. Another article n:bs:Austrija usvojila zabranu ustaških simbola is also probably copied from Al-Jazeera article written in one of Slavic languages, i.e. probably either Bosnian, Croatian or transliterated Serbian.

Unsure about articles from n:bs:Kategorija:Decembar 2018. and ones from other date categories. Nevertheless, I found n:bs:Boško Dević osuđen na kaznu zatvora u trajanju od 10 godina to be copied mostly from one source and another. --George Ho (talk) 00:34, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

All these articles were created by the same user. Have you tried to talk to them? Ruslik (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I notified the user responsible for this; re-pinging Golden Bosnian Lily. George Ho (talk) 21:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
The text is not the same! Članak (n:bs:Austrija usvojila zabranu ustaških simbola) je prepričan sa ove stranice i ne sadrži isti tekst! Isto se odnosi i na ostale napisane vijesti! --Golden Bosnian Lily (talk) 06:15, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
I wonder whether the duplication detector agrees with you. George Ho (talk) 06:28, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
How about another detector then? George Ho (talk) 06:37, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
ok? --Golden Bosnian Lily (talk) 07:29, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
...I see that you made changes, which helps decrease the rish of copyright infringement. Meanwhile, I think this revision should be either revdel-led or hidden from public view.

As for "Darko Mrđa i Zoran Babić..." (detector 1, detector 2), I see you have done changes on one article. Revisions prior to 16 December should be revdel-led or hidden from public view. Nevertheless, the tools (detector 1 (A)(B), detector 2) can still find similarities of the "Boško Dević osuđen..." article. --George Ho (talk) 08:09, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I also see the changes made. I think the revisions before the change should be revdel-led. --George Ho (talk) 08:34, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I also found "n:bs:Rusija:U rijeci Amur pronađena vreća s 27 pari odsječenih ljudskih ruku", created by Arnel6-2, to be copied from the article. I notified the user about this discussion, but the user hasn't edited since March of this year. I would doubt that the user is going to reply soon. George Ho (talk) 10:40, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

George Ho, slažem se sa Vama da revizije trebaju da bude skrivene od javnosti. Želim Vam ugodan dan! --Golden Bosnian Lily (talk) 16:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Now that the changed were made, revisions before the change should be revdel-led. George Ho (talk) 19:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey again, Lily. One of the detectors found similarities of "n:bs:Žalbeno vijeće Haškog tribunala potvrdilo kaznu za zločine Herceg-Bosne od 111 godina zatvora za Jadranka Prlića i ostale" with other sources. If you can fix the issue, then this revision should be deleted or hidden right away. George Ho (talk) 19:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello @George Ho I'm sorry for my mistake, I didn't knew that is forbidden. I'm mostly active on Wikipedia, that was the only page i created on Wikinews. --Arnel6-2 (talk) 11:01, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

That's okay, Arnel6-2. Well, I'll check other pages for copyright infringements from the project some other time. George Ho (talk) 12:33, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Request for deleting pages on srwikinews because of number of revisions[edit]

Status:    On hold

Hi, I can`t delete pages listed here because of big number of revisions. Can you delete these pages? Zoranzoki21 (talk) 21:06, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Zoranzoki21: Yes, we can do it. But if you could state a reason why those pages should be deleted it'd be good. Thank you, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
@MarcoAurelio: Because we, community on srwikinews, want to remove old weather forecast things. As I deleted already much pages related to this (see logs at srwikinews). Zoranzoki21 (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
@Zoranzoki21: Okay. I'll handle this one. Will do it by hand or invoking a pywiki script (I'm not decided yet). Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:21, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Note: I am having issues as reported at phab:T212356 so this is going to be slower than expected. Sorry. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:46, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
@Zoranzoki21: Could you provide a permalink to the discussion? Helps for here and for the deletion comment. Noting that there has been a fix coded and planned for release, the issue is that there will be no further code releases for about three weeks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst and MarcoAurelio: We (@Acamicamacaraca, Ранко Николић, and Novak Watchmen:) discussed about this privately. They can confirm this action. Zoranzoki21 (talk) 01:43, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Interesting. That doesn't sound like a community conversation to reach a consensus, that sounds like a few people imposing their point of view, benevolently or otherwise.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:48, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: Because there we no have active community. Usually we calls users from srwiki to give comment. Zoranzoki21 (talk) 04:12, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
Not wholly unexpected, when people have no ability to add to a discussion, or even to see the outcome of a conversation (public or private) and to know who were the decision-makers; it probably won't ever change.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:22, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, we did discuss the matter in hand. --Novak Watchmen (talk) 14:10, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Noting that this is Time2wait.svg On hold for now pending that the API change is deployed to all wmf branches before re-attempting. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
I'm honestly not comfortable doing on-wiki deletions with no on-wiki discussions whatsoever. — regards, Revi 08:09, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
There was a discussion last week and they agreed with the deletions requested (cf. Phabricator Task). I agree however that those pages don't harm. Whatever, they so choosed to remove them so I'll try to remove those when I get the green light from operations (the actorMigration script seems to still be running and causing db lag, which I don't want to increase with sequential bigdeletes). —MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

OAuth approval request for RAMP2[edit]

Status:    In progress

Requesting approval of new OAuth consumer per instructions. --JoeRailfan (talk) 16:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@JoeRailfan: The project is set to this wiki (instead of all wikis). RAMP says its goal is to "publish the content of those records as Wikipedia pages" so I assume that's not what you wanted? --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 17:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Goal of the RAMP2 revision is to "publish the content of those records as Wikipedia pages" as before; new functionality to be added is "to reuse/remix the data and publish it as linked data in the knowledge base (Wikidata)." (This per my librarian contact.) It's not clear to me what the "Applicable projects" are for this application--should this be "All projects on this site"?

I also need to resubmit my OAuth consumer registration proposal as the app will require some additional grants I didn't specify in my first submission. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JoeRailfan (talk) Please remember to sign your posts using --~~~~.

@Tgr (WMF): for the above. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:16, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@JoeRailfan: Yeah, it should be "All projects on this site". Or English Wikipedia if that's the only site where you plan to publish content. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. First attempt to resubmit my registration proposal failed with "There is already an app with that name". Resubmitted with Consumer Version bumped up to 2.0.1 and additional grants requested. --JoeRailfan (talk) 19:04, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

@JoeRailfan: looks good (yeah we don't have a sane way to resubmit things right now) but I'd recommend not asking for "View your watchlist" permission; it doesn't sound like your app actually needs that, and people might find it intrusive and you'll lose users because of it. (Or is that required for adding/removing items from the watchlist? If so, we should probably fix that.) --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tgr (WMF): I requested that permission because the original RAMP app had it. I'm not even sure the app actually uses it, so can we leave it in for the time being? I'd like to have the app authorized for OAuth as soon as possible so I can get on with the modifications to it. On that subject, is there a sandbox environment for testing OAuth apps? If so I'd be fine with doing my development work there instead of tinkering with something ostensibly in production. --JoeRailfan (talk) 17:58, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@JoeRailfan: non-approved consumers sort of serve as a test environment - you can test them with the same user that proposed them. (There isn't any great way to make clear something is for testing currently, people just tend to put "testing" into the consumer name or description.)

I don't have a problem with the watchlist permission, I'm just not sure it will serve you well (in the final version of the app). OTOH the current callback URL won't work; you need an URL you can actually control (the 2.0.0 version had that so I assume it's a typo?). --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 18:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tgr (WMF): You're right, it's a typo--the callback URL needs to have the tool name in it. Resubmit the request as 2.0.2? Appreciate the help while I'm learning my way around Wiki world. --JoeRailfan (talk) 20:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@JoeRailfan: yeah you'll have to resubmit as a new version. That's a bit stupid but that's the current level of tooling (OAuth is not very well supported). --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 20:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tgr (WMF): The RAMP2 project is on hold (perhaps temporarily). Thanks for the help thus far. My OAuth consumer registration page currently shows I have 6 registered consumers, some dating back to 2017. Most of these were just for learning/testing--is there any way I can delete this cruft and start fresh? --JoeRailfan (talk) 20:36, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@JoeRailfan: A steward / OAuth admin can do that for you. I don't think you can do it yourself currently. --Tgr (WMF) (talk) 23:24, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Copyrighted works on the Esperanto Wikisource[edit]

Status:    On hold

The works of Kazimierz Bein (Kabe) are not yet in public domain. The author died in 1959. The pages should be deleted now and undeleted in 10 years. There is no active community on this wiki and there are no admins.

Pages containing copyrighted material:

Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 14:11, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@Robin van der Vliet: As these works have been there for years (2012), they should at least have the semblance of a deletion discussion with whatever community may be there, and for at least a month so allowing suitable opportunity for comment. Though it will be a forlorn hope, please ping the contributor.  — billinghurst sDrewth 15:34, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
I informed the creator of most of those pages here, but I don't really see what we should discuss. The pages constitute a clear copyright violation. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 15:42, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
They have been there six years, waiting through a discussion is not problematic. The community should be given the right to have that discussion. It allows a local record to exist for others to see, it educates, it informs and allows a community to be a community. It allows a local permalink to be used on any deletion, and a clear authority for people to act to delete. What is so urgent or imperative that a discussion cannot be held.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:10, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Also noting that some of the works have been added by Frglz (talk · contribs), so please ping them in the discussion. Thanks..  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:13, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
I also pinged them in the discussion. For me personally it's not a problem to wait, I am just accustomed to how copyvios work on Commons. When I nominate something there, it gets deleted in an instant without any discussion, that's why I was surprised when you said "at least a month". Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 02:15, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
I moved the discussion to this page, because there are a lot more copyrighted works stored on the Esperanto Wikisource than I first noticed. I linked all I could find in that new page. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 13:34, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Wikisources work differently to Commons, especially in sporadic editing. I am also unsure exactly the copyright rules they apply, it may not be Commons rules. Being pre-1923 works, if eoWS are working only to US copyright alone, they will not be copyright violations. This is why the community conversation should be taking place by those who know the local rules, rather than applying another wiki's rules.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
If they require the texts to be PD also in the first publication country, the texts should be moved do Multilingual Wikisource before deletion. Ankry (talk) 14:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Cross-wiki Republic of Macedonia to North Macedonia change[edit]

Status:    In progress

As I'm sure everyone's aware, the Republic of Macedonia has now renamed itself to North Macedonia. On en-wiki, there've been a butt-ton of pages nominated for moving e.g. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. As I'm active at SWMT, I've also noted IPs starting to, in good faith, change categories on articles in line with this, however, as these categories haven't been moved yet, it's causing a redlink problem e.g. here. Can someone with cross-wiki move access implement these moves in category and template namespaces? Many thanks, --SITH (talk) 14:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

In which wikis do you want them moved? Ruslik (talk) 20:52, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@Ruslik0: I suppose any of them which can be safely semi-automated with regards to translation. I assume they all follow the same category and a cat redirect should suffice and they'll get replaced in time. Many thanks, SITH (talk) 22:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
I would have thought that wikis would be organising their own responses rather than having some action from metawiki. It may be possible in small wikis to have some central action, though it would still seem that language knowledge is required and it is best coordinated locally. If communities lack the bot tools, then it is quite possible that we can organise some operators to make changes where those changes have been determined by the communities.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:54, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Potential copyright infringement at Korean Wikinews[edit]

Status:    On hold

Korean Wikinews has articles infringing some content from third-party sources. Copied from n:ko:위키뉴스:사랑방/보존6#Copyright violation? (and modified):

Unsure about the ones below:

The ones below look mighty suspicious to me; they appear to have huge quoted content:

I talked to its admin "-revi" (the only active admin as of date and also the steward) about the matter. The admin said I can go to another venue for more outside help if necessary, i.e. asking other stewards who rarely or do not understand Korean. While other articles were deleted for copyright infringement, the above ones still exist. Then the discussion got archived after it stalled for a few months (i.e. without reply). Here I am asking for a request. George Ho (talk) 00:52, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

In the discussion at koWN is there a consensus to delete? If there is a consensus then that is the level at which action could be taken, when local administrators are not available. If there is no consensus to act, then stewards or global sysops are unlikely to do anything. The files are definitely not marked for deletion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:38, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
I was pointing out potential copyright infringements. Also, the koWN community has been very, very small; its own village pump consists of just short-term editors and one long-standing admin. I don't know why a consensus is necessary when the community is too small, if not almost nonexistent. George Ho (talk) 22:57, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Also, the editor responsible for the potential infringement has neither responded nor been active for months. George Ho (talk) 22:59, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Deletion conversations in the smaller wikis can take make longer, and it would seem inappropriate for an outside decision to be made. I am not sure what you want global sysop or stewards to do. That community does not engage in your conversation should not be taken as authority for outsiders to intervene in deletion discussions. Further, as Revi is an active editor, a steward, and clearly part of that community, I think that you should discuss it with them at their local user talk page.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:40, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
I am too busy in real life to act on kowikinews: tho I find it suspicious as well. If someone wants to delete it for me, that's fine. — regards, Revi 00:54, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
@-revi: If there is a discussion close and recommendation at koWN, then I would think that global sysops can act for the community in a process sense; it is the decision-making where local admins exist that currently restricts us.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
There is no prior consensus for the AfD process: currently it's up to admin discretion, and I authorize you to delete those pages for me. — regards, Revi 01:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

kywiktionary revisited[edit]

Status:    In progress

As with my post about kywiktionary back in February, there has been quite a bit of recent page creation through IPs at that wiki, much of which was just deleted on March 24th (and relevant address ranges blocked). Billinghurst took care of it this time, but left the contributions of several now-blocked IPs in place because, he said: "Mass delete failed due to db error, and I didn't have the time to do singly. The older are not in RC, so cannot be mass deleted." Since they apparently would have been deleted if it had been easy to do, I'm wondering whether someone else wants to take a look at this and consider whether the pages should be deleted (or possibly even the opposite: consider reversing the blocks in some cases — not sure whether that's a common occurrence):

Here are "luxotool" links for the only two of these IPs with any cross-wiki activity (in both cases, a trivial amount — the others are only on kywiktionary):

Holder is the other user who has been quite active mass-deleting pages on kywiktionary recently (deleted all the pages I posted about back in Feb). I don't have particularly strong feelings about these entries, but they do seem to fit the pattern of mass page creations, likely from the same user, using ever-changing IP addresses — hallmarks of longtime vandals trying to get around blocks (and potentially of other, legitimate users). - dcljr (talk) 23:54, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

As I did in February, I have notified admins at the Kyrgyz Wikipedia (this time all three of them) about this discussion. - dcljr (talk) 00:09, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
I saw that, that IP did it again, he flooded the RC and cvn channels, also notifying @Vogone:.--AldNonymousBicara? 03:14, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Comment it is not so clean, some of these have reason text, eg. wikt:ky:nedancināmi and I am not brave enough to march in and delete as wiktionary is not one of my strengths. So I think it is a case of build a list, at kywikt of proposed deletions, and after a period of time we can delete what is not removed from a proposed list.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:57, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
    re activity, there is nothing there in the last few days following range blocks, so I am not sure what is being reported through cvn channels.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:08, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
    Not these IPs, different ones, I forgot the address but doing similar thing as this. I don't know if I should stop that IP action or not, please ask Vogone, he know more about this than me.--AldNonymousBicara? 12:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

If no one is prepared to say that these entries were created illegitimately by a known vandal, then we should probably just close this as "not done". The Kyrgyz Wikipedia admins have not responded to my requests to participate in this discussion (none of them have edited that wiki in the meantime), and there's too many entries to check individually by someone who doesn't read Kyrgyz — i.e., by cross-referencing the info with existing pages in other Wiktionaries and Wikipedias. FWIW, I did that with the 5 "USA" entries created by 2804:14C:6590:8CEC:30C1:F2AD:148A:587B and they all seemed legit. If anyone has a lot of time on their hands, they can check the rest and tag any obviously bad entries with the local Template:Delete, for listing in the wiki's "speedy delete" category. (In case anyone is confused, the Kyrgyz Wikipedia admins were contacted because the Kyrgyz Wiktionary has no admins and no detectible editing community.) - dcljr (talk) 07:38, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Update of s:he:MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js for the <pages/> function at Hebrew Wikisource[edit]

On Wikisource wikis, there is a <pages/> function implemented. An Interface administrator is needed to update s:he:MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js in order to provide added functionally to the <pages/> function, specifically so that the function will indicated the individual pages and show page numbers in the margin.

For an example of how the <pages/> function is supposed to work, please see this example at English Wikisource. In Hebrew Wikisource, all the function currently does is show the range of pages, but it does not indicate the individual pages nor show the numbers in the margin.

(Also please note that as Hebrew is an RTL language, the page numbers should be shown if possible in the right margin rather than in the left margin.)

Thanks to anyone who can assist, Dovi (talk) 07:13, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Dovi: pagenumbers.js is a complex beast, and the WSes themselves have issues getting someone to play. Getting someone to play with it here is going to be difficult, and you may have more luck at Tech.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks very much billinghurst, I'll ask there too. Dovi (talk) 14:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Out of scope content in lo.wp[edit]

Status:    In progress

User Allbooks [stalktoy] – [cross-wiki edits] is uploading to Lao Wikipedia out of scope content, mainly belonging to Wikisource:

The user ignores requests not doing this: discussion on the user's talk page

Some discussion about this issue was on oldwikisource: s:mul:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Lao_laws

Please consider appropriate steps to stop this kind of activity of this user. They seem to speak English.

The above mentioned legal acts can be moved to oldwikisource. I have already exported them and waiting for rights to import. They can be deleted from lo.wp if you find this appropriate (IMO, they should).

Ragards, Ankry (talk) 09:46, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

After they're moved to Wikisource, they should be deleted. Please comment here when it's done. Vermont (talk) 13:12, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
There are many more such pages than the ones listed above. Please see all pages ending in dates in the contributions of the user on lowiki. By my count, it currently stands at 151 such pages. Note that because the user continues to upload these legal texts (even after the warnings), a static list may never be sufficient (unless the user is blocked from editing — and even then, they may try to circumvent the block). This wouldn't be so much of an issue, but the opinion has been expressed at s:mul:Wikisource:Scriptorium#Lao_laws that we should try to move all of these legal texts from lowiki to oldwikisource before they are deleted from the former. - dcljr (talk) 18:40, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Without getting into all the details here, is there any reason they haven't been blocked yet? Praxidicae (talk) 18:44, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
There's no local admins. Vermont (talk) 18:51, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ankry: Are the members of mulwikisource able to import them into mulWS in the interim? There is no need to await a resolution at loWP here. That may also allow us to demonstrate what is able to be done and lessen resistance of the contributor.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I am waiting until my above linked request for import rights matures (a week of local discussion is needed; started 2 days ago). I hoped, that somebody else could do it, but nobody volunteered till now. Can it be considered an urgent case and done by stewards? Ankry (talk) 05:19, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
A couple of thoughts. 1) It is not urgent, just important, so let it flow through normal processes. 2) If the user is going to just add valuable content, I think that we are better to try and work with them and coax them to move their additions to mulWS. So as I mentioned at s:mul:WS:S add the ability to directly import these works to community and do it rationally, and we can resolve the issues separately.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:49, 19 April 2019 (UTC)


Status:    Done

Please lock User:YouCanHaveMyIceCreamIWasMolested everywhere, and semi-protect the WikiQuote talk page for my account indefinitely. Drmies (talk) 21:39, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

  • And check User talk:Bonadea. Please oversight the lot, starting in 2018: it is a threat. Drmies (talk) 21:51, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
  • How did someone slip through the filter with my username in theirs? Drmies (talk) 00:11, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Drmies: please see (How to make a request) in SRCU header, also lock/block requests should be in SRG and other requests in SRM! For oversight requests see this! --Alaa :)..! 09:16, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

@Drmies: Your request include:

  • Please lock User:YouCanHaveMyIceCreamIWasMolested everywhere Yes check.svg Locked by Wim b
  • semi-protect the WikiQuote talk page for my account indefinitely X mark.svg Not done as there's 6 active sysops, you can send protection request to any of them.
  • Please oversight the lot, starting in 2018: it is a threat X mark.svg Not done see Oversight_policy#All_Wikimedia_wikis
  • How did someone slip through the filter with my username in theirs? need an explanation?!
--Alaa :)..! 09:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I think he was asking you to look at the user talk page's history and oversight those edits, not to CU the account. In regard to the filter, the title blacklist was only updated with Drmies's username on March 18. Vermont (talk) 13:22, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Vermont, we are dealing with an LTA here. Yes, I wanted someone to CU the account, which is why I posted it on the Steward/CU page. This LTA is a sock and frequently travels with a half-dozen accounts. Now, I do not understand all this bureaucratic BS that User:علاء is throwing at me. I don't know why they can't protect my WikiQuote talk page: the only purpose it serves is harassment, and there is no reason for to go to another page to request semi-protection when I'm already trying to reach a steward. Nor do I understand whey they can't have a look at User talk:Bonadea to scrub such content as " Category:I am 1 lucky kid i sucking my sweaty dad c*ck and my dad watch my uncle breed my assmmm i"--User:علاء , do you think that's not disruptive? And I don't have any interest in reading a policy here: it's my daughter's name that was mentioned there, so someone better take an interest in it. Sorry, I know y'all have things to do, but at some point someone needs to take some action, and with this LTA that means running CU, blocking all accounts, possibly placing rangeblocks, and revdeleting all of their harassment. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
@Drmies: To be fair, stewards can get in trouble for non-emergency admin actions on wikis that have active sysops. (I actually voted to remove a steward for a similar reason a few years ago, and the steward was removed in the end). Regarding the oversight request, if the content isn't oversighted (I can't tell if it was revdel-ed or OSed), you can email mail:meta-oversight. --Rschen7754 02:07, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
It appears as though your English Wikiquote talk page has been protected from creation since October 2018. Are you referring to a different language Wikiquote? Also, if your daughter's name is still there, it can be oversighted, although normal disruptive edits cannot be. (see Alaa's link above) Thanks, Vermont (talk) 02:11, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Vermont, User:Rschen7754, at the risk of being a little too dramatic, did y'all notice that the motherfucker posted my address in a username? Vermont, when you hit "rollback", the username is included in the edit summary, but at least now you know how to send me a Christmas card, so many one of you can take care of that.

    Now here is what I would like: I want ALL the talk pages protected or at least semi-protected, on all the dozens of Wikis where I will NEVER be active, talk pages that only exist, AFAIK, because of this unified login stuff. There are so many that I don't even know what's where anymore. And have some nice smart person tweak the filter. That is the simplest way to counter this, until the WMF grows teeth and a spine. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

    • Drmies, I’ll see if I can poke someone about a filter here, which likely would be easier than protecting your page on 700 odd projects. I don’t think Ala’a was trying to be bureaucratic here. He’s usually one of the least bureaucratic stewards and I suspect it was a misunderstanding of what you’re asking. Since your daughter is involved, I poked another steward to look at this since I think Alaa is offline and I don’t think he would mind. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:48, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
      • There's 700? Sheesh. Thanks Tony. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
    Global Abusefilters are not enabled on BIG wikis (i.e. en, de, etc etc), so it is in fact not truly global. — regards, Revi 02:21, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Note : Special:diff/19032156 already added to global Title Blacklist by Billinghurst.--AldnonymousBicara? 16:25, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
    • Another note - the string "Drmies" is TitleBlacklist protected with the parameter <noedit|autoconfirmed>, so consider "semi-protect the WikiQuote talk page for my account indefinitely" already done. The above diff is for account creation only. -★- PlyrStar93 Message me. 16:34, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
      • Ah yeah almost forgot these .*\bdrmies\b.* <noedit|autoconfirmed> already added, so yeah, consider these as protection for 750+ active SUL wiki projects.--AldnonymousBicara? 16:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello all (Hey @Drmies:), my response above based on the tangle and overlapping of the request without sufficient explanation, especially that Drmies is well-trusted and highly experienced user, and when I mentioned the policies pages I mean that (OS request applied private email or OTRS and not on public, and CU requests should contain information about "why to CU?"). I don't want to waste more time on explanation, but of course I apologize for my (mistake, misunderstanding and poor handling) of the request. @Drmies: can you please explain how I can help? --Alaa :)..! 16:51, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

  • User_talk:علاء , I appreciate your note and I hear from TonyBallioni that I was too harsh with you: my apologies. I think I outlines above what I need in these cases: CU for sleepers, revdeletion of all personal information, including edit summaries and such...and semi-protection of all those talk pages... thanks; I know y'all are having to do a lot of hard work, but I hope you understand that seeing your address in a username is seeing almost the worst kind of harassment and personal threat. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:01, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
@Drmies: Face-smile.svg I'm working in that.... --Alaa :)..! 17:04, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Alaa, if anything - this sockpuppeteer hops over a very large range which blocking causes huge collateral (may be broken down to roughly 3--4 smaller ranges, but still large enough). CU sleepers may or may not be doable in this case. Page protection is already done through means other than local sysops. -★- PlyrStar93 Message me. 17:13, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

@Drmies and PlyrStar93: Are we finished here? or Is there any further action needed? --Alaa :)..! 10:55, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Things are happening behind the scenes also, so I guess we're done here--thanks! Drmies (talk) 13:59, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done per above --Alaa :)..! 17:01, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Protection in Chuvash Wikipedia[edit]

Status:    Done

I am afraid w:cv:Плотников Николай Алексеевич needs full protection. It is only edited by a LTA (several accounts already blocked) who adds there purely disruptive material. I revert these edits, and it looms like nobody else is interested. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Protected for 3 months. Esteban16 (talk) 23:29, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Great, thanks a lot.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

See also[edit]