Steward requests/SUL requests/2011-11

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Status:    Done

Hello. I have created the account Pic-Bot in July 2009, but lost the password. On my home wiki, frwiki, I have renamed it Pic-Bot_old ; could you do the same thing here? I want to be renamed to Pic-Bot_old with the following account:

Thaks a lot! --Pic-Sou 20:31, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done as a local bureaucrat. Normalement la page correcte était celle-ci, mais c'est pas grave pour cette fois-ci ;). Cordialement, -- Quentinv57 (talk) 20:37, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Désolé, je ne savais pas... thanks ! --Pic-Sou 08:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


Status:    Not done

Someone else seems to own Christophe for global account creation, in order to be able to create a global account I want to be renamed to ChristopheFR with the following accounts

Thanks! -- 17:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

The French Wikipedia has local bureaucrats as can be seen here. Please request this on fr:Wikipédia:Demande de renommage de compte utilisateur. Trijnstel 20:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


Status:    Done

I have gone through the list of foreign pages and requested usurpation on all instances that were listed - you can see the entire list at en:User:Joy/SUL.

The following entries either did not appear on the list of request pages, or have more than one listed bureaucrat at Special:Listusers, so I am bringing them up here because I think it would be entirely unreasonable to require me to hunt down not only each individual mediawiki instance but also each individual bureaucrat on those instances, send them duplicate messages, look out for race conditions, etc. If they failed to create a centralized page on their instance where requests can be posted so that all bureaucrats can see them, that should be a problem for them and/or for whoever oversees them - not us poor old users.

Update: I've gone ahead and sent messages to this effect to individual bureaucrats listed below. Argh. If they fail to get their act together within some reasonable amount of time (e.g. 3 weeks), please follow up (usurp my accounts, un-crat them, whatever). --Joy-temporary 11:32, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Update: I've now reduced the list to only five problems with unreachable bureaucrats. Please do something about it. --Joy 11:09, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Update: And another month has passed... Please intervene in the remaining cases of obviously inactive bureuacrats. --Joy 09:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Update: And another month passed, but two fixes remain stalled. --Joy 14:43, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Update: finally all usurpations are done, but apparently I hit at I tried asking at #wikimedia-tech, but nobody answered. As a workaround, I'll ask the hi: admin to delete those four edits, as suggested at meta:Babel#importing edits and then refusing to attribute them properly. --Joy 23:55, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

In general, this process has been utterly tedious and time-consuming and I feel I've done my share of due diligence already - it's time for someone to finally help me out and alleviate this colossal waste of my time that would *really* be better spent on actual editing of Wikipedia...

So then, this is the remainder from my list:

History of fixes[edit]

I also stumbled upon some pretty inactive bureaucrats that have noticeboards but aren't acting upon requests:

  • English Wikiversity says it has 5 bureaucrats, but my request is idling well past the time of 14 days their template advertises; I've sent a reminder, to no avail; it looks as if they haven't done any usurpations since February. stewardry output is a bit less grim.

Please help. --Joy-temporary 12:25, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

  • Confirming the problem at en.wikiversity. See v:WV:Changing username. We do have two or three "active" crats, defined by edit(s) or logged actions in the last three months. However, one hasn't acted as a 'crat for a long time, and one is quite unresponsive (but did just do a usurpation after being asked on his Talk page, by me, to look at the open requests, and then being asked by a user, re the most recent request. That's the only one he did. There are seven more namechange requests, all older, all easy. I'd tried to clerk the namechange page to make it easier for the 'crats, making sure the ducks were in a row. The third 'crat is more active, but is moving his residence and barely able to take care of a university course he's running (also on Wikiversity). But that gives him edits! It's a bit frustrating. Joy's request is duck soup, ready to go. Just needs a 'crat or steward. --Abd 19:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
  • v:WV:Changing username has been cleaned up, I brought in a pile of templates from enwiki so that the links were there in a uniform way, and so that there were buttons for a 'crat to push. The last 'crat to push a button was a bit touchy. --Abd 01:53, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
    • So we're supposed to send personal messages to individual bureaucrats there to get a usurpation done? So what is the point of a common noticeboard then, if they're not going to pay attention to it? Stewards, what is your position on this, is this behavior legitimate/reasonable? --Joy 15:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
    • Sigh, so I did that. [1] [2] --Joy 14:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
      • And now this one is finally Yes check.svg Done --Joy 23:55, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
I'd suggest that you can go ahead with the rename despite the 4 edits. ;) fr33kman 21:14, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
But all four of those are all my edits! Like I said, they imported them, from en:. If you want me to dig out the exact matching diffs from en:, let me know, but it seems apparent. The account was created on March 16, 2009, and made no contributions - I doubt anyone would even see such a message. --Joy 08:53, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
It's easier to look here for confirmation. The page lists the total number of edits excluding any imported edits (but including any deleted edits I think). It says zero edits on Hindi Wikipedia, implying that the edits appearing on Hindi Special:Contributions are imported edits. -- 12:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Exactly, yes, thanks! --Joy 07:21, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
(with ec) Both crats listed at hi:Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat have been active the last days, but do not respond to the request! Btw. what's the difference between hi:सदस्य:आशीष भटनागर‏‎‏‎ and hi:सदस्य:आशीष भटनागर? I can't see any, but when searching for the first line it doesn't match the second line. Btw. the first line is taken from ListUsers, the second line is from the page you get to when following the link given in ListUsers ... a×pdeHello! 13:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I have a UTF-8 font that renders those characters and I see no difference between the two links you posted, it's the same user page, so I'm not sure what you mean. --Joy 07:21, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I copied the username from hi:Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat to find it in adminstats and those two names aren't identical! a×pdeHello! 11:21, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Hmm, true, my Ctrl+F confirms the same behavior now. Anyway, on the adminstats, only one line visually matches that user (they are listed as #5 in the red, with only 1 action). --Joy 22:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
      • Sent another reminder to both bureaucrats, [5] [6]. --Joy 14:43, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
        • User:Mayur moved it away now. --Joy 22:37, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Another strange case:

Please help. --Joy 13:27, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

  • A local Portuguese user had explained it again in their native language on September 1st - but there has been no response. --Joy 10:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Another user just happened to tell me that the local bureaucrat did the rename on November 1. Yes check.svg Done --Joy 14:26, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
  • v:beta:JoycontribslogCentralAuthusurp
    • 2 crats, no registered request page
    • crats notified: [7] [8]
    • crats listed a page, I used it
      • Request not done after over a month and a reminder. Stewardry output for beta.wikiversity indicates their two bureaucrats have last log entries there in 2010-11-17 and 2008-05-02 (!); User:Hillgentleman did recently list the request page but for some reason is not acting upon my request at all
      • Update 2011-10-19 - Hillgentleman has asked the old Joy user there to relinquish. --Joy 07:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
      • Update 2011-11-08 - Hillgentleman did the usurpation. Yes check.svg Done --Joy 22:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
  • w:te:JoycontribslogCentralAuthusurp
    • 3 crats, no registered request page
    • crats notified: [9] [10] [11]
      • All three notified 2011-08-05, but no progress as of 2011-08-25
      • ...probably because their Special:Contributions outputs say their respective last edits were 2011-05-16; 2010-09-02; 2011-01-03
        Yes check.svg Done All local crats are inactive for several months, thus I did the rename. Regards a×pdeHello! 20:30, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
  • b:id:JoycontribslogCentralAuthusurp
    • 2 crats, no registered request page
    • crats notified: [12] [13]
      • Both crats notified on 2011-08-05, one of them fixed my specific problem after I pinged him as he did the same on id:, said they got no b:id e-mail; no progress on the b:id noticeboard as of 2011-08-25

Thanks in advance. --Joy-temporary 10:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Please note that stewards won't perform renamings or usurpations on wikis with active bureaucrats. That's tedious but that's the current policy for us. I'm doing the "0 'crat" requests for now. -- Dferg ☎ talk 12:48, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
Like I said, that's fine, but you need to insist on bureaucrats maintaining their respective entries in the index of pages where renaming can be requested, otherwise they're not necessarily active bureaucrats. --Joy-temporary 15:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
I did it.quote but I don't understand why you write «now I can't unify it because of numerous conflicting accounts on various wiki instances»: you don't mean that you technically can't, do you? Unless you have less edits than some other account (which is not your case), you should always be able to unify, leaving some local accounts unmerged. If you actually can't, then I suppose the hr sysop is blocking you, but if that's the problem (it shouldn't) I suggest you to ask a temporary desysop. --Nemo 14:05, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
I didn't mean that technically - I didn't even try it before this mess was sorted out. Nowadays, I might as well do it... Would there be any reason against it? --Joy-temporary 12:40, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
I clicked through en:Special:MergeAccount and now it has me stuck at the "Finish merge" screen. The SUL util scripts still see no global account. --Joy 12:21, 24 August 2011 (UTC) They see it now, yay. Only 11 unattached accounts to fix. --Joy-temporary 13:00, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Please unify te:User:Joy and notify hi:User talk:Joy. Regards a×pdeHello! 20:44, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Do you still want me to notify the hi: user now that we've confirmed that they have no edits (just like te:)? --Joy 22:52, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Comment of Trijnstel[edit]

I was a bit confused because of the long-lasting discussion. So correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik three more user accounts should be renamed (if possible) for completing your SUL account:

It's been done on the other projects, including ptwikibooks (on 1 November) (rename), so you can cross that wiki of your list. Kind regards, Trijnstel 22:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

w:de:Kroatische Präsidentenwahl 2009/10 was an import-upload from :w:en: which duplicated his edits! a×pdeHello! 10:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)