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Latest comment: 15 years ago by Piotrus in topic Further reading suggestion

I think this is too Wikipedia-centric. We have had entire classes working on Wiktionary, and Wikiquote can be a good starting point, because it's very difficult to choose the best quotations, but it's pretty easy to choose decent ones, and you only have to reproduce them (while starting a whole new article by zero can be a very difficult task, not suitable for children). --Nemo 07:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)Reply


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notes

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imho:

1) please, check this idea and en:Template:Welcometeacher, en:Template:Welcomestudent (thx Piotr:)

- I like this very much! It is brief and not too overwhelming!--KathrinJ 21:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

2) checked projects:

  • sv.wp telecom-project and followers: done. thx Kathrin and Lennart, my passive swedish is better than ever :)
  • israeli projects: checked some aspects, not complete
  • de.wp: all checked, 45% integated. some chairs (germany, austria) are requested to review
  • en.wp: SUP checked, cp checked. some chair-candidates for review (one informed, piotr reviews as lecturer, too (thx :)), usability-tests for students (and MBA-discussion for uk on the move) in the usa and uk (i think, that will garantee usability in this important markets).
  • es.wp: checked
  • wikimedia university projects: en, de checked for potential experts and tests --Jan eissfeldt 05:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

to do

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1) integrate the great papers in the structure and recalibrate the steps

2) complete the drafts and check them with chairs.

3) offline-format => Educational materials

4) test the offlinie format with his candidate chairs and local community. first test: first discussed test option: during winter term 09/10

5) recalibrate the working title, preferences? done

special thx to Kathrin, Piotr and Frank for there heldful suggestions, work, questions, reviews and corrections --Jan eissfeldt 11:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Assigning Wikipedia articles as coursework to students => possible, or: Use wikipedia as an university teachting tool (or classroom or so)

Recruit local community members as facilitators => Recruit facilitators

Make a timetable for your project => possible

Think about the goals for students => Goals for students

Start with teaching the basics of editing => Teaching wikipedia

Invite community members to talk about how Wikipedia presents the course's topic area => Recruit public speakers done

better versions? --Jan eissfeldt 02:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I like them all. Maybe one suggestion: Instead of Goals for students we could write Educational objectives. --KathrinJ 21:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

example questions

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  • licence and copyright (wikimedia, national law): how to manage? consequences for the project (lecturers)
  • practice note: not so important for en.wikipedia.org but de.wp, for example, will delete every noticed _potential_ infringement of copyright
  • the point how to edit: different for every project. the local cultures of every wiki are different in many ways. reputable scources in wiki A may be not acceptable in wiki B. inside ervery wiki the same for different themes. examples:
  • reputable scources for my project/article/theme are? (students) => is this X reputable (point of wikimedia resolutions, not scientific)?
  • how can i find the right reviewer? (students)
  • will the old author of the article respect scientific scources (and methods, sometimes)? (lecturers)
  • time line: is the project plan compartible with the working process (polls for featured article for example). (lecturers)
  • troll projection: will the community protect the project against trolls and vandalism? (lecturers)
  • should i use a seperate wiki? (lecturers)
that`s some examples --Jan eissfeldt 11:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply


Thank you, Jan! This is very helpful. Especially, the point "time-line" - this should be a chapter on your best-practice pages. --KathrinJ 20:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

time table

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  • I started a new point regarding a timetable. Then I realized that the point before also talks about goals. Maybe we can combine this? Could you give examples for a specific goal? What could be the result and how could a timetable look like?--KathrinJ 00:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
well, it was included ("check your time table") as a part of the individual services of volunteers to check the specific time table but you are write. i have establish a draft as practicable example. please check it, king regards --Jan eissfeldt 05:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
proposal done, timeline in use --Jan eissfeldt 01:09, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Introduction

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sure, for lecturers ;) --Jan eissfeldt 23:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Table

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Introduction: Why assigning Wikipedia articles as coursework to students? Advantages!
Phase A: Preparatory phase 1.Recruit facilitators
2. Think of, what goals your students should reach. Use the experiences of your facilitators to check the feasibility.
3. Communicating insider knowledge (structure of specific topic on Wikipedia)
4. Creating work plan / time table / list of themes (Criteria, Level of difficulty: Edit existing articles or writing new articles?)
Phase B: Course phase 5. Teaching Wikipedia basics (formal requirements, editing, quality management, tutorial for advanced learners, feeling: “there are qualified humans behind the nicks and cooperation produce better content / course notes") (90 minutes)
6. Executing and monitoring (encouraging students during the process, dealing with drawbacks)
Models Model A: Bachelor in Germany (Goal: Lesenswerte Artikel) Model B: Master in Germany Model C: Bachelor in the United States
* a. Students reach up into their theme and (re-)write an article (3 weeks)
  • b. Review (2 weeks)
  • c. If the reviewresult shows a real chance to candidate for "Lesenswerte Artikel", you should enable a candidacy and grant a bonus for positive results to motivate the student(10 days). The other students should present their results. Note: Your students can present the discussion pages, too. That will help to verify their social skills (articel discussion page and central project page).
  • d.Reviewing by lecturer
* More time: Your students can work on more comprehensive
  • Formation of groups: Beside an individual article, your students should work on an collaborative article to train teamwork and softskillmanagement.
Well proofed is the goal of creating content orientated on the criteria good or featured article. You ought not use the local candidates, if there is no fixed timeline.
  • e.Establish working groups: 3-5 students should work on a theme, ideal: scientific items (accurate selected and reputable scources)
  • f.Students reach up into their theme and (re-)write an article (3 weeks)
  • g.Wikipedia Peer-review (2 weeks)
  • h.Reviewing by lecturer
Phase C: Conclusion phase 7.Evaluating your course (finish your course, feedback of students, feedback for Wikipedia)

Please have a look :-) Regards, ––buecherwuermlein 14:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Moved from article

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I moved one of the lead sentences here: "If your students may want to create featured content or defend their work in discourse, you will need the cooperation of the local community." - it didn't seem to fit the rest of the text. --Piotrus 18:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Further reading suggestion

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Disclaimer: my article - Jan'07: Wikis and Wikipedia as a Teaching Tool --Piotrus 18:22, 15 October 2009 (UTC)Reply