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Collapsed sections[edit]

Makes no sense to collapse the links on this page as they are the only content, please uncollapse. --Nemo 11:04, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Second the idea. Also it would be good to organize the content more logically and have archives for inactive projects/activities. Shyamal (talk) 14:27, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks both. Any good templates you could point to on Meta, that we could look at before we take this up? Will take sometime to work on this though. --Visdaviva (talk) 21:08, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
A focus on content rather than presentation might be a useful way to work on this - just the way any Wikipedia article is developed. Shyamal (talk) 05:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


Just a suggestion on what a useful page structure might look like:

  • A2K Mandate - articulating the A2K mission?
  • Strategy
  • Specific projects and actions
  • Team
  • Finances
  • Archives

Sub-pages - where needed for discussion of specifics - either from old minutes and allowing for fresh discussion. Shyamal (talk) 06:31, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. V useful --Visdaviva (talk) 18:28, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Other actions[edit]

I think it is fairly well known that the single biggest action to improve Access to Knowledge in India would be to work towards free-licensing or "public domain" status for works of government (at least central government, as done in the US, with exceptions for contractors). Has anyone considered the idea of joining hands with numerous other organizations that share this vision to file a Public Interest Litigation to change the relevant sections of the Copyright Act so that it also sits in well with the RTI Act. This is more indirect action but I think it has far greater significance than any minor tinkering and might well worth be the effort given that this kind of funding that is available is perhaps the one chance that India might ever get. Shyamal (talk) 05:44, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Valid point. Bringing content under open licenses (held by public and other institutions) is very much part of A2K plans. A2K is working with some institutions, which is under progress. Expecting some results soon.
PIL and changing Indian Copyright Act is a complex and long drawn out process, as I understand, but worth taking up. Availability of this funding should not have any major bearing on this aspect, I think. --Visdaviva (talk) 18:40, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
The legal angle is also worth considering because it is something the community cannot take up unlike article development and outreach are something that will eventually happen even without the need for specific interventions. I believe many of the people listed on the list of contributors to the A2K are top-notch legal experts as well. Shyamal (talk) 05:20, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Copyrighted logos[edit]

I was under the impression that CIS has access to folks with a high-level of understanding of copyrights and Wikipedia policy. Please note that Wikimedia Commons does not allow fair-use logos. I have nominated the CIS-A2K logo for deletion on commons and suggested to the uploader a couple of ways by which the logo can be appropriately used. Shyamal (talk) 16:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Dear Shyamal, sincere apologies and thanks for bringing this to our attention. The logo is in PD. But, the only problem is it is not uploaded on CIS website with proper description. It would be uploaded soon. --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 00:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Subhashish, anything that is online is not in PD, it may be publicly accessible but not PD unless explicitly stated so by the owners - I cannot find such a statement on the CIS website. Secondly, no reason to apologize to me or to anyone else, just a matter of policy and the only thing is that it comes as a surprise especially given that CIS is supposed to be into copyright and Internet related activism. Shyamal (talk) 02:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Shyamal, I have checked the footer of the CIS website which says "Copyright respective authors. Unless otherwise specified, content licensed under Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported.". By default all the original work by CIS is in CC-BY-SA 3.0 which includes the logo as well. Is there a separate disclaimer needed for that? --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 17:23, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
It looks somewhat ok at the moment, at least it is not claimed to be PD. I am still not quite sure, because this means that someone else can take the logo and add whatever else text they want next to it. CIS must be clear that they approve of that. Shyamal (talk) 03:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Hope this helps. --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 11:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Excellent and explicit now. Shyamal (talk) 13:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Shyamal for bringing it to our attention. Appreciate your support for the movement. --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 06:00, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

IRC logs category[edit]

Hi. Some IRC logs are in Category:IRC_office_hours_logs, some are in Category:IRC_logs_of_India_Access_To_Knowledge_meetings. Which one do you prefer? PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi, the first one includes all the IRC logs of WMF and the second includes all the logs of the Access To Knowledge program. As both are different there is no need to make any changes to the category. Thanks. --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 06:37, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Consumers International[edit]

Hello! I did not realize that CIS participated in the A2K project. My name is Lane and I am a Wikipedian at en:Consumer Reports, which is a member of en:Consumers International, which is a coordinator of the en:Access to knowledge movement. Do any of you in this project have any relationship with Consumers International? It would be nice to find a way to collaborate on something. Thanks! Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:06, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Support to Community participation - Wikipedia at Swatantra 2014[edit]

The intention of this discussion is to take suggestions from (Indian) Wikimedians about the below proposal.

As some of you may know that Swatantra 2014 (5th International Free Software Conference, Kerala) is being held in Trivandrum during December 18-20, 2014. More details can be found at this link. Organized by ICFOSS (GoK) this event is set to attract hundreds of Free Software enthusiasts. CIS is one of the supporters of this conference.

There is a dedicated track for Wikipedia/Wikimedia during the conference. We are also planning to set up a Wikimedia stall at the event. We are hoping to have ML Wikimedians take lead on this.

We are considering to give travel and stay scholarships for select Wikimedians from across India, who are interested to participate in this event and benefit from it. This will also be a great opportunity to meet and interact with Malayalam Wikimedia community.

CIS-A2K is considering to support upto 2 Wikimedians from each language community. Interested Wikimedians will be asked to put up a request, along with a statement of purpose, in their respective Wikimedia Village pumps and will request the community members to second them. Based on the community response CIS-A2K will decide on providing travel and stay scholarships. CIS-A2K will support this as part of its Community Strengthening Initiatives.

Please share below your suggestions on the above process and also your inputs on how we could do this in a better manner. We would like to put out a call by November 10. We will be open to receiving your feedback until November 7, 2014.--Visdaviva (talk) 12:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Typo in lede[edit]

...Access to Knowledge team around it's work on English...

-> its

I'd fix it, but it's canned content somewhere else. But bad to have a glaring typo in the lede... --Tillman (talk) 23:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Tillman I fixed it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much, both!--Visdaviva (talk) 03:37, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Mega Move Request[edit]

I have been thinking about this for the last few months and finally I have decided to go ahead and start this formal move request. I am proposing to move—

  1. The portal's name is "The Centre of Internet & Society — Access to Knowledge" or CIS-A2K. It is also called A2K only, but not IA2K, i.e. India Access to Knowledge.
  2. In our pages, reports and categories we are using the common name CIS-A2K (for example, please see the latest FDC grant proposal, so I feel we should do this consistently.
  3. CIS-A2K is our identity/handle on social networking sites as well (Twitter, CIS-A2K
  4. This name is used in news articles as well (DNA India, MediaNama, OpenSource, TwoCircles)
  5. Last but not least, majority of Indian Wikimedia community recognizes us as CIS-A2K program.

So for over-all consistency, I am proposing to move these pages. Undoubtedly it'll be a huge task and we should go ahead slowly and steadily.

Thank you
--Visdaviva (talk) 10:29, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

  • Endorse: Of course this is an excellent idea, I support it. Yes these should be moved. --TitoDutta 19:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
  • This is a great idea and I fully support this --Pavanaja (talk) 03:42, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Support this. Would be really useful. --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 04:06, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Nice idea. And I support it.--Abhinavgarule (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Support Support. --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:29, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Looks like we have consensus to go ahead with this proposal. Thanks. --TitoDutta 05:40, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Okay, I'll start working in next 24 hours. --TitoDutta 13:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


dear, I am a bangla Wikipedian. In Bangladesh I want to make a workshop. The selected place is en:Shahid Abdur Rab Serniabat Textile Engineering College, Barisal. Can you help me please?? --শাহাদাত সায়েম (talk) 11:39, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Error in Non-financial requests page[edit]

@Tito (CIS-A2K) and Lahariyaniyathi: Greetings, I wish to bring to your notice about a possible error regarding the Non-financial requests page. The " Click here to create a new request" button on the page places the request on the Financial requests page. Please solve this to avoid further confusion. Face-smile.svg Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talkmail) 03:01, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga thanks for bringing this to our attention. We shall work on this. Regards, Lahariyaniyathi (talk) 04:44, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

  • Krishna it is fixed. Thanks for the alert. --Tito (CIS-A2K) (talk) 06:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Featured Wikimedian [November 2017][edit]

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On behalf of Wikimedia India, I hereby announce the Featured Wikimedian for November 2017.

Balaji Jagadesh is one of the top contributors from the Tamil Wikimedia community. Though he started contributing since 2009, he was quite active after his participation in WikiConference India 2011. Initially he started contributing to Tamil Wikipedia, but was later attracted towards Tamil Wikisource, Tamil Wikitionary, and Wikidata. His global contributions count to whooping 2,50,000 edits. He is an admin on Tamil Wikitionary.

After his interaction with Mr. Loganathan (User:Info-farmer), Balaji was very much motivated to contribute to Wikimedia projects. He says, "When I was editing in Tamil Wikipedia, I used to translate science articles from English to Tamil. But faced problem in finding equivalent Tamil words. The English to Tamil dictionaries were inadequate. Hence I felt the need to work in the Tamil Wikitionary. After a while there was a collaboration with Tamil Wikisource and Tamil Nadu Government through Tamil Virtual University through 2000 CC0 books were uploaded".

As an active contributor to Wikidata, he says that the vision of Wikimedia movement is, "Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge", but with Wikidata we can make it, "Imagine a world in which every single human being and every single machine can freely share in the sum of all knowledge". Apart from regular contributions, he also created templates to Tamil Wikimedia projects, and also maintains Tamil Wikisource's official Twitter handle.

Balaji hails from Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, and is a post-graduate is Physics. He currently works as a Senior Geophysicist in Oil and Natural Gas Corporation Limited (ONGC).

Any editor can propose a fellow to be a Featured Wikimedia at:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Featured Wikimedian [December 2017][edit]

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Greetings, on behalf of Wikimedia India, I, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga introduce you to the Featured Wikimedian of the Month for December 2017, Hrishikes Sen.

Hrishikes Sen is one of the most active contributors from the Bengali community. Though he started editing English and Bengali Wikipedia in 2007, he had to take a long break due to professional constraints. Later he started working on Bengali Wikisource from 2012, and ever since, he has been an active contributor, and expanded to English Wikisource as well. With more than 45,000 global edits, he is an admin on English Wikisource.

As a child, Hrishikes always found reading books as a fascinating task. He says that he finds reference books as interesting as mystery novels. That interest, over years motivated him to contribute to Wikisource. The journey and motivation behind his contributions to Wikisource can be read from a post on WMF's blog, Why I contribute to Wikisource?. He says that till date he's been only active online, but he plans to do outreach in the coming future. He hopes that attending the 10th Anniversary Celebratory Workshop of Bengali Wikisource in Kolkata on 10 December may be a harbinger to his future offline activities.

Hrishikes believes that Wikisource will one day emerge as of the top digital libraries in the world, and says that as a store-house for primary and secondary source materials for Wikipedia, the importance of Wikisource is steadily becoming invaluable. Much of his time, Hrishikes spends working around Indian works, with a special focus on the works of Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay, Jagadish Chandra Bose, and Rabindranath Tagore. Apart from being a proofreader, he uploaded more than 750 books spreading over five languages to Wikimedia Commons.

Hrishikes hails from Kolkata, but is presently based in Lucknow. By profession, he is a doctor serving in paramilitary forces. To his Bengali friends, he welcomes them to contribute to Bengali Wikisource which has more than 676,000 that have completed Optical Character Recognition and are waiting to be proofread.

Nomination can be made at:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:09, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

User group for Military Historians[edit]


"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when we speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians. Please spread the message to your members and Wikimedia volunteers within your scope.

Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talkmail) 07:12, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India)[edit]


It is being planned to organize Wikigraphists Bootcamp in India, please fill out the survey form to help the organizers. Your responses will help organizers understand what level of demand there is for the event (how many people in your community think it is important that the event happens). At the end of the day, the participants will turn out to have knowledge to create drawings, illustrations, diagrams, maps, graphs, bar charts etc. and get to know to how to tune the images to meet the QI and FP criteria. For more information and link to survey form, please visit Talk:Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikigraphists Bootcamp Survey Reminder[edit]


As it has already been notified about Wikigraphists Bootcamp in India, for training related to creation drawings, illustrations, diagrams, maps, graphs, bar charts etc. and to tune the images to meet the QI and FP criteria, please fill the survey form linked from Talk:Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India). It'll help the organizers to assess the needs of the community, and plan accordingly. Please ignore if already done. Krishna Chaitanya Velaga 03:03, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Some concerns about the new "Requests" template[edit]

@Tito (CIS-A2K): Thanks for revamping the requests process of CIS-A2K. Having worked with several grants from WMF and also with CIS-A2K, I have some concerns regarding the new template. I'll go point-wise;

  1. Firstly, since you've anyways revamped the page, I suggest you to take one more step to move this entire thing to the "Content page" instead of the "Talk page". It is weird to place requests in the discussion page (talk space). In the present setting, I don't see a place people can talk about a request or about the process itself, because the main content is placed in the talk page itself.
  2. With reference to this page—CIS-A2K/Requests—probably to be moved; as of now this seems to be completed outdated. Please keep an updated record requests approved requests from time to time (in an easily accessible table format), with relevant links such as reports, media etc.
  3. Community discussion; sometimes projects and events have an impact or are of interest of multiple communities. In such cases, a village pump discussion would not be the right way to do it. Instead, there can be a sub-section under the respective request for "Endorsements" where people from different language communities can endorse the request.
  4. Timing: I suggest having the flexibility of 10-15 days, instead of a rigid 15 days.
  5. Bills and receipts; I am quite bothered about the "15 day" time period. Considering the fact that all those who are working on different projects and events are doing it in their volunteer capacities and time. Within 15 days is too soon to submit the bills, because people might be having other commitments during a week, and they will only be able to dedicate time to this during weekends. Also, it is known that CIS-A2K needs physical copies of the receipts and bills, unlike WMF, where digital copies are accepted. So considering these practical problems, I strongly suggest increasing this to thirty days. Even WMF grants structure follows the 30-day period.
  6. Dates; This might not be a concern to many, but we might have such cases. Every request should have main (event/campaign) dates, and the separate start and end dates. So bills, receipts and reports deadline are applicable after the end date, but not the campaign end date. For projects such as Wiki Loves and online editing campaigns, a lot of time after the contest period is spent on cleanup, judging, and deciding the winners. So the actual end date of the project is different from the event/campaign last date. So there should be a field to state such cases in the requests template. All the WMF grant proposal templates (rapid, conference and event, project) have this distinction.
  7. The preload template is under the user-space of Ananth (CIS-A2K), link, please move this to main-space.
  8. The non-financial page uses the same template used for financial requests. This should be tweaked according to the context. For example, "Bills and receipts" is not relevant there.

Since many community members would want to request support from A2K team, I request you to consider these concerns and make necessary changes as soon as possible. KCVelaga (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@Tito (CIS-A2K): Looking forward to hearing from you regarding these. KCVelaga (talk) 12:57, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
KC, the last few weeks were very hectic for us, apologies for the delay, I'll check these in a week or so and will get back to you. Regards, and thanks for the feedback. --Tito (CIS-A2K) (talk) 05:58, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@Tito (CIS-A2K): I see that Bodhisattwa (CIS-A2K) has made the changes. They are perfect, thank you very much. KCVelaga (talk) 09:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC)