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Archive. Some old discussions happened on CentralNotice/Log (and talk). Please also comment the proposed CentralNotice banner guidelines.

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{{editprotected}} Please someone create a banner with these parameters:

The banner is intended for editing workshops done by Wikimedia Community User Group Greece. Thanks in advance! --Geraki TL 08:58, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Geraki: Since the dates already passed I think this is not needed? Best if next time you request this at WM:RFH. Best regards. -- M\A 12:09, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, at the end I placed a request there. -Geraki TL 13:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Election 2015 banner[edit]

Sorry for being a bit "rude", but the current banner (Special:CentralNoticeBanners/edit/Election2015_BoardSubmission) is shameful and especially not accessible. Try to zoom your webpage (CTRL and +) and you will see the text disappearing inside that weird dark blue bow... Someone should fix it as soon as possible. It is on the top of each page in every Wikipedia of the world... (!) --Lucas (talk) 17:12, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lucas, honestly I'm happy to make changes to make it more accessible but I'm not entirely sure how to do so to help :-/. When I zoom in with (CTRL +) the text doesn't seem to do what you describe, could you explain more about exactly what you're seeing and perhaps your browser/operating system so that i can try and replicate? Obviously we try to make it pretty easy to close if issues like this are happening (by pressing the x in the top right hand corner) but so far I've heard more good things about the banner then bad things. If there are problems though then I want to find a way to address that, if you or anyone else have suggestions to tweak it to make it more accessible then please let me know. Jalexander--WMF 17:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello! I tried with Firefox, IE, Chrome and Opera last versions, the OS shouldn't be important in this case, I am using WIN 8.1, in any case.
Simply looking at the code, which is using pixels ("px") instead of fluid design (em, %, etc.) makes clear (or at least it should) what is the problem with this banner. Screen resolutions or zoom levels are not important as they should vary without interfere with the banner accessibility.
Please see the following screen-shots, obtained by simply zooming the page with the appropriate browser function: Firefox, IE, Chrome, Opera (probably the worst).
I am sorry if I cannot help right now in fixing the template, it is not a complex issue, but I definitely have work duties that need to be done soon. Thanks :-) --Lucas (talk) 20:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I see what you'er talking about now. It's still interesting because that is not happening on any of those browsers for me. On my screen by the time it wraps and overflows like that the interface itself is crumbling (the Edit button/view history button etc fall on top of the browser fall apart and are on top of the banner and content). What you are currently seeing is certainly not perfect but 'as designed' for most CN Banners failing with the text overflowing and hiding as it wraps rather then overflowing out into the screen. I've found over time that attempting to dynamically adjust the text size etc can have major issues on heavily translated CN banners especially rtl languages but it doesn't mean it's not possible. @Pcoombe (WMF): do you have any free time to take a look at the banner? You've had more recent experience and sadly I'm swamped right now (and had 3 hours sleep the past couple nights so need to get a nap soon if I want to stay sane). Jalexander--WMF 20:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry @Jalexander-WMF:, I really don't have time to work on this right now. Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 16:25, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
You could try something like [1] (Not really tested). Also there's been some complaints at commons (commons:Commons:Village_pump#Irregular_banner), that using js onclick instead of a normal link makes it so that people cannot ctrl+click to open in new window, see url in status bar, etc. Bawolff (talk) 21:50, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks @Bawolff: I had to adjust your changes a bit to make it work with rtl but it does look like it's better. Those are made. I also flipped the onclick to a full banner link. I like unclick for some of it's simplicity in other ways but I know that some people really prefer (understandably) to use right click etc and I don't care enough about onclick to challenge that :) Jalexander--WMF 02:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

it.wikivoyage[edit]

Ilario, non mi risulta che questa abnorme campagna mensile sia stata discussa da nessuna parte, prego disattivare finché non ci sia stata appropriata discussione da qualche parte. Problemi generali da discutere:

  • Un mese non è accettabile.
  • Non capisco chi vada in vacanza a luglio, questa cosa comincia a essere ridicola oltre che un insulto per il numero sempre maggiore di italiani e italofoni che non si possono permettere vacanze.
  • Le statistiche persistono nel mostrare che le campagne non portano benefici. Non c'è alcun incremento nei contributi.

Configurazioni facili a cambiarsi (salvo discussione/necessità di diverso orientamento):

  • Davvero si vuole fare su tutti i progetti? E in tutti i paesi?
  • Degli utenti non registrati probabilmente si può fare a meno, è improbabile che contribuiscano. Non è chiaro se rientrino fra i destinatari del messaggio/della campagna.
  • Il sitenotice di it.wiki avrebbe dovuto essere svuotato anticipatamente, non a posteriori. :/

--Nemo 07:37, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Nemo fino a che si tratta di pubblicizzare progetti minori non vedo problemi, invitiamo le persone a scrivere su un progetto come Wikivoyage non a donare soldi. Invece vedo un problema nella campagna 5x1000 che è durata 3 mesi e ce la siamo vista anche in Svizzera dove la gente veniva sul nostro sito di Wikimedia CH a cercare il 5x1000!!!! Il livello è messo a "normale" per cui se entrano banner urgenti nascondono questi. Quello della libertà di panorama, ad esempio, lo ha nascosto. Quindi non sarà un mese, sarà qualche settimana. Dove se ne era discusso? Quando è saltato fuori come un fungo quello del 5x1000 ma nessuno ha risposto, inoltre ne ha discusso la comunità di Wikivoyage. --Ilario (talk) 08:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Ilario, sulla campagna cinque per mille non mi esprimo, io non ho niente a che vedere con essa. Su questa campagna, però, vedo benissimo che fa solo danni senza alcun beneficio. Non solo è incredibilmente lunga rispetto a campagne simili, non solo non è stata né discussa né richiesta prima che tu la mettessi, non solo ha un testo insultante per chi le vacanze non se le può permettere, non solo è logorante, non solo è stata estesa a progetti e paesi che mai prima erano stati toccati da tale invadenza (cosí che devo eliminare il banner in 900 wiki): non solo tutto ciò, ma è anche del tutto inutile e uno spreco di risorse perché bnon consegue ALCUN risultato. Smettila di abusare i tuoi permessi in questo modo qui in Meta. Non è per questo che è stata creata questa funzione. --Nemo 12:52, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
CentralNotice/Usage_guidelines, Wikivoyage è un progetto del movimento Wikimedia, mi è stato chiesto di mettere il banner, sulla wikipedia in italiano non ho visto opposizioni (a parte la tua), quindi siete pari e ad ogni modo un singolo non fa consenso. L'unica differenza a vantaggio di Wikivoyage è che in passato la comunità italiana ha sempre accettato il banner per un periodo di qualche mese in estate, quindi esiste un consenso che può essere considerato ricorrente. Sull'abuso direi che anche il mass mailing è un bell'abuso soprattutto se non se ne è mai stato discusso un invio massivo su una certa tematica. Quando sono stato a Wikimania ho chiesto in giro per il banner di Wikivoyage e non ho trovato opposizioni, al contrario il primo non italiano che ho incontrato mi ha parlato della campagna fatta durante le elezioni (lamentandosi). Sui risultati dobbiamo considerare anche l'aumento di visite, sono delle metriche prese in considerazione. Direi che l'abuso è nascondere il banner nel momento in cui la comunità non abbia chiesto il suo oscuramento perché al momento resta semplicemente una battaglia personale. Se vedo evidenza di un'opposizione della comunità al banner, mi rimangio tutto. --Ilario (talk) 15:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Limiting impressions on Wikimania 2015 registration announcement[edit]

@KTC: There has some concern from ops about the impact of the wm2015register campaign, it seems this campaign is set to deliver the maximum number of banners across all wikis. I'd like to make a suggestion, that you add "banner diet" code to the banner so that it's only shown once or twice to each unique viewer. This helps everyone by reducing so-called banner fatigue, annoyance to readers, and load on servers. Unfortunately, it's not a straightforward process to add this banner hiding code. To that end, I'd like to put you in touch with @Pcoombe (WMF): and fr-tech@wikimedia.org, who can hopefully help with this. Thanks! Awight (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Awight (WMF): in this case I merely implemented the request by the organising team as per the last couple of years. AFAIK, RecordImpression had not been an issue before with similar banners. Glaisher had already limited traffic to 50%. I have set "mw.centralNotice.onlySampleRI" to true as per new documentation. I have also added a very basic display counter to display the banner up to 2 times, but it's limited to the local project so it's 2 times per project rather than across Wikimedia wikis. The code work by CSS's "display:none" rather than not loading the banner in the first place. Something like this need to be a feature in CentralNotice itself. -- KTC (talk) 03:14, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for being so accommodating KTC. Adding these banner limiting features to CentralNotice itself is currently being worked on (we definitely want it for fundraising too, rather than having to rely on my flaky javascript!) Peter Coombe (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 10:40, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Recommendation for anonymous impressions vs. logged-in impressions[edit]

I have scheduled a banner for WikiConference USA starting 19 August. I want impressions for both anonymous and logged in users (anons are welcome to attend!), but I feel like I don't need as many impressions for anons. The length of the campaign is 19–31 August. Of that timespan, for how many does should the banner run for anons? harej (talk) 17:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, one day and dozens of registrations later... I think I'll keep it for just logged-in users for now. That was a fun day. If the registration numbers look too modest maybe I'll run another with-anons campaign later! harej (talk) 00:04, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for revising your campaign during its duration. For events, restricting to logged-in users is usually sensible. --Nemo 13:02, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia 15 campaign for three months[edit]

Hi. Re: this edit, three months seems pretty excessive. In general, I don't think Wikipedia's quinceañera is really a big deal. Advertising it to the world for even more than a few days in January is probably too much. (cc: Heatherawalls) --MZMcBride (talk) 07:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

+1. Unless there is some specific community demand and assessable goal for the campaign, a week is plenty. People usually celebrate birthdays for at most 24 hours. Nemo 07:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey ya'll. The planning process has just started -- I just wanted to add a little space in the case it is needed. heather walls (talk) 07:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Information: We have temporarily disabled the banner on Swedish (sv) Wikipedia. As noted above, a "birthday" lasts for 24 hours only, at least in Swedish translation and context. /NH 13:56, 16 January 2016 (UTC)