Talk:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Having long, complex and in depth discussions is basically impossible

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Agree!

100% agree! Great wish. However, it kind of only elaborates on a problem without specifying what (a) solution(s) could be.

I think there is an issue with long-form linear only discussions when it comes to argumentative debates such as the case in many CfDs, AfDs, policy change discussions, talk page debates about edits, and so on. Things are not structured by the points made and which points they address. Often, people put long walls of text that repell further editors to join the debate or be able to quickly get the points of the debate.

I suggest you take a look at Kialo (linked an example debate there). I would suggest that it's integrated so people can turn talk discussions into argument trees or create the argument map from the debate and then embed these there or even start a debate with an argument map where everyone can make new claims underneath the point they're addressing....but it's not open source (Argüman is but it's inferior to it). I think things would be more overseeable and have better clearer results if one used a more structured approach for debates but I don't know how in practice. Prototyperspective (talk) 23:38, 2 August 2024 (UTC)