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Diannaa stepping back, new features[edit]

@MusikAnimal (WMF) (Also ping @DanCherek, MER-C, and Diannaa-- please add anything here that you think might also be useful) If you haven't seen, Diannaa is going to be doing less work at copypatrol moving forward. This is a good a time as any to address some long running issues around how work is structured. It's no efficent, healthy, or fair for two or three people to be doing the lion shares of the work. We need to make patrolling and dealing with copyright violations like recent change patrolling, in that the majority of editors have a baseline knowledge of what to do. We need to update the processes around dealing with copyright violations to account for this, and I have two ideas in particular:

  • We should have a feature that allows you to search through all the times a specific editor has been flagged at copypatrol.
  • We should have a feature that allows you to look through all the reviews someone has done.

If for whatever reason these cannot be used by the general editing group at copypatrol, would it be possible to add an "admin" role at copypatrol that could do this? If this isn't the correct venue to request these features, what would be? Thank you, Moneytrees (talk) 21:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Moneytrees, I never got a ping notification for this discussion, and noticed only by chance. You might like to notify the others of its existence via some other method in case they never got pinged either. Thanks. Diannaa (talk) 15:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey @Moneytrees! I didn't get this ping either, but I did get your message on my talk page (at the time I was on holiday). I'm sad to hear the mighty @Diannaa will be taking a break! She indeed has done the heavy lifting for some years now.
Myself and CommTech are happy to look into streamlining CopyPatrol however you think it will help. In my opinion though, the main issue is lack of enough interested patrollers. I think running some sort of campaign to get more folks involved on enwiki is probably going to yield the best results.
Now, looking at your two specific suggestions:
  • a feature that allows you to search through all the times a specific editor has been flagged at copypatrol
    Partially doable, and would be very slow. We don't store any data about the editor in the CopyPatrol database, only the revision ID. While we can do a query to find all revisions by a given editor that exist in CopyPatrol, this wouldn't work if the revisions no longer exist. I.e. see the reviewed cases and you'll notice that now-deleted pages don't have editor info (example). We could change CopyPatrol to start storing user data, but this would be expensive and costly for the benefit it provides, I'm afraid.
  • a feature that allows you to look through all the reviews someone has done
    This is doable and quite easily at that! If you can file a Phabricator task with the CopyPatrol task, we'll get it triaged in the next meeting. Or I can write a task when I find the time.
Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:55, 28 February 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MusikAnimal (WMF) I'm planning on writing a sort of "guide to copypatrol" and some increased community activity for when I have the time. I've created a task on Phab related to the searching reviews feature, let me know if I did it wrong. Moneytrees (talk) 04:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi, @MusikAnimal (WMF)! I saw the task open up at Phabricator and wanted to take a stab at it since I had free time. I forgot to read this thread and didn't notice that you had plans to get it done. The PR can be found here; please feel free to close if it's an overreach. Chlod (say hi!) 06:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not an overreach at all! We had not starting working on this. Thank you very much creating a PR :) I'll get to reviewing it soon. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 18:52, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please exclude known Wikipedia mirror-sites from the result[edit]

When I see a page in new page feed, it tells me copyvio is detected on a certain page (details here). However, when I looked into these details, I discovered that this page is actually a copy from Wikipedia (aka mirror site). Then there comes the logic below: "copying" texts from a website that mirrors Wikipedia (exact match, not even "close paraphrasing") is a "copyvio". What a droste effect! -- U.T. 02:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notifications[edit]

Hello @MusikAnimal (WMF): , thanks for this helpful tool. I suggest to add "Notifications" with the number of "open cases", on the relevant wiki. This will help editors to solve these cases. I put the link of the tool on the template of "Admin-Tasks" on Arabic-Wikipedia, If a BOT adds the number of "open cases" of ArabicWiki on that template, in the form "(number)" like (5) for example, this will help Admins and editors to open the tool to solve these cases. The BOT can update that number from time to time (four times a day or more). Thanks for you. Dr-Taher (talk) 22:22, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @MusikAnimal (WMF):. Now, I check this page everyday, to see if there are new cases to review. Many days there is no cases to review, this wastes our time, then I may forget about this tool. BUT, If I receive a notification of new cases, it will be much better. Dr-Taher (talk) 14:11, 5 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dr-Taher That's a fantastic idea! I have filed a task at phab:T334264. I hope we can get this implemented soon and when we do, I will let you know :) Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello @MusikAnimal (WMF), more than 30 days, and no action have been done! Dr-Taher (talk) 05:57, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Our colleague (@لوقا:) used his Bot to find the number of open cases, and we will use it to notify Admins and Active Editors to solve these cases. If this can help in solving the ticket, you can contact him for help. Dr-Taher (talk) 06:27, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"there is an error connection to database"[edit]

I get this popup whenever I try to mark something as reviewed or no action needed. enL3X1 ¡‹delayed reaction›¡ 21:53, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@L3X1 I believe this is now fixed. Sorry about that! This was due to some change that happened as part of phab:T333471. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:11, 6 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! enL3X1 ¡‹delayed reaction›¡ 12:49, 7 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No new cases in WP:es[edit]

There are no new cases in Spanish Wikipedia since 2023-04-02. Thanks in advance. LMLM (talk) 08:02, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@LMLM Apologies for the late reply. It did seem the eswiki job was "stuck", so I restarted it and it seems to be functioning properly again. There are no new reports as of the time of writing but I'm guessing you'll see some soon. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 05:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MusikAnimal (WMF) Thank you so much. Now it is working fine. Best regards, LMLM (talk) 08:29, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]