Talk:Encyclopedia for Children

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Scope[edit]

To offer safer Encyclopedia for kids and teens

Concerns[edit]

There would be some pretty significant child protection issues with this project, to put it mildly. The tl;dr is that this would be a pedophile magnet and would basically encourage minor editors to disclose information that on other projects such as en.wiki would be suppressed. We have a difficult enough time dealing with child protection on projects without this. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:21, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

  • To add to that, the proportion of "adult" material on existing Wikipedias is minuscule. The vast majority of that is of the standard variety that you would find in an anatomy textbook, and is non-sexual in nature. There are lots of picture of penises on en:Human penis, but they're anatomical. Outside of vandalism (which is undoubtedly worse on small and upstart projects), the only way you really find your way into sexually explicit material, is to look up sexually explicit subjects. If someone is reading the article on en:BDSM and is surprised to find explicit material, then why are they looking up the article on BDSM in the first place? I don't at all see the purpose in creating otherwise entirely duplicate projects, just so we can take some images out of a fraction of a percent of articles, that are pretty much all on sexually explicit subjects anyway. No one is really getting ambushed by pictures of explicit sex acts because they wanted to look up the history of the French flag. GMGtalk 21:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: : Thanks for your advices . We need to develop an easier version of wikipedia to be suitable for children, So we want to develop an simple graphical interface , filtering porno topics , filtering harmful photos and so on Omda4wady (talk) 09:59, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia[edit]

@Omda4wady: I saw your post at Wikimedia_Forum#Encyclopedia_for_Children and was intrigued. Just wondering if you are aware of Simple Wikipedia?

We use Simple English words and grammar here. The Simple English Wikipedia is for everyone! That includes children and adults who are learning English

. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: I appreciate your kind reply , Still we need a new version of simple wikipedia which be appropriate for Children. This version will be on multiple language interface . We need protect our children from browsing a web site may contained topics like pornography , etc.. . On the other hand , the project should be on simple graphical interface to be suitable for browsing by children. --Omda4wady (talk) 07:18, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech: Simple English Wikipedia is suitable for children who speak English , We need to provide an equal project for all languages.--Omda4wady (talk) 10:44, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • Oppose Oppose @Omda4wady: I dont think that this is a good idea... given that proposals like Kidswiki and Wikikids go! are already under discussion. I also doubt that any of these projects will make it through as Simple english wikipedia was created for these types of difficulties. Arep Ticous 17:41, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

@Arepticous: Thanks for your reply , Kidswiki is in Stale status. WikiKids go! proposal does not explain the types of topics which to be included. My proposal for make an encyclopedia for children without inappropriate topics ( Prongraphy, Alcohol , Smoking , etc ... ) --Omda4wady (talk) 10:15, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

@Arepticous: Simple English Wikipedia is suitable for children who speak English , We need to provide an equal project for all languages.--Omda4wady (talk) 10:44, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Omda4wady: But in this case, wouldn't it be more convenient to add languages to the simple english wikipedia other than wasting webspace by creating a total new one? and not to mention the websites out of this foundation. They provide the necessary services, and as i believe Wikimedia guidelines are not up to competing and all sorts. Arep Ticous 17:51, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

@Arepticous: Thanks for your reply. Simple English is not a stand-alone Project, So we cannot add a new language in simple English Wikipedia. If Wikimedia Foundation isolates simple English Wikipedia from Wikipedia website ,then we can add another language. Omda4wady (talk) 15:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

  • @Omda4wady: I have taken back my opposition for this project, somehow, i believe that you can make this work. I checked out the active proposal for wikikids go and it seems that the user who proposed it is globally blocked and is not active anymore, therefore, it would soon be swept of by the board.Wikipedia is inappropriate and too advanced for children, i agree, and the simple english wikipedia could not be used by children who do not know english... i agree to that too, youngsters around the world from places like Sri Lanka and india are still learning the alphabet, prepositions, tenses and etc... even the english in simple english wikipedia would be advanced to them. But, are you aware of projects like WikiJunior[[1]]? a childrens website established by the WMF with versions of many languages. and i am not just talking about projects that are part of the WMF, like Britannica kids and academickids. Arep Ticous 05:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@Arepticous: Thanks for your action, WikiJunior is a part of wikibooks.So, we need to establish an independent project like Britanica Kids which available on limited languages.But our project will be on multiple language interfaces to provide the knowledge for all the world. Another reason, Our project will be an free under open license. Omda4wady (talk) 07:26, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

  • @Omda4wady: I've added my support, and as a piece of advice, i think you should make your content page more detailed rather than getting skeptic criticism. Arep Ticous 07:28, 17 September 2019 (UTC)