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Events for banner targetting[edit]

For the targetting of the global Central Notice banner (1-10 March 2021)

  1. create an landing page for your language I can link to from the general landing page: remember to keep it as simple as possible for newbies, like this one for instance.
  2. Then please fill in the table below, so I can target the banner according to the events that are joining us for International Women's Day.

Ciell (talk) 08:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

(Courtesy ping for @Masssly, Cftoro (WMCL), Eric Luth (WMSE), DDJJ, Rosiestep, and Kiraface:) Ciell (talk) 11:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
(Courtesy ping for @Camelia.boban and Señoritaleona:) --Rosiestep (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Ciell: I'm still not sure exactly how this is planned to work. For WikiGap, Art+Feminism and several of the other events, the events will be multilingual (opening up for any language). How can we meaningfully divide one landing page per language for those? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:30, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Eric Luth (WMSE): I see what you mean, but do these initiatives not provide language specific lists or events? How would you approach and motivate different languages for these events? In what languages is the initiative and the event explained? Ciell (talk) 09:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
If you go to Art+Feminism programs for example on Dashboard, you see that they have 74 specific programs. Might be a bit overkill to create 74 independent landing pages? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 10:08, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
But these events don't seem to be events around 8th of March 2021? And that would exactly the kind of overkill I would like to avoid...
This dashboard mostly does not mention any language or topic, but merely the group of persons that are active with the activity. But for instance for #WikiGap you have language-specific pages, correct? And so you could compile a landingpage for those languages, one where other events in the same language can be mentioned. Working together seems to me is the best way to map all the different events. Ciell (talk) 19:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Art+Feminism takes place on plenty of dates, some on 8 March, some not. But with this setup, I don't think there will be any link to any Art+Feminism event, which we might want to inform Masssly and Kiraface about.
And no, WikiGap is not divided by language but most often by country. There can be English language editors in Sweden and French language editors in England, etc. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 11:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I feel a slight confusion as to what form the landing pages you are envisioning should take. Is it this template? User:Ciell/Kladblok_8_maart But I assume that most organizers won't be able to integrate that into their campaigns. Maybe we should organize a call with all involved just to make clear 1) what is needed from a technical point of view 2) how that integrates best with the setup of the different campaigns? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 11:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Ciell: I'm noticing the logo for the movement. The slogan "Mind the Gap" does not really translate well into English. As a matter of fact, it is a SLUR to describe women's genital area. You might want to consider changing it to something a little less offensive.
Event Country Language Theme Who can take part? Start - and end date Coordinator of the event Link to your event page
Art+Feminism Global All and any languages Gender, feminism, and the arts Anyone and everyone regardless of experience, gender, or background, is welcome to attend or organize Art+Feminism events. Year Round, but concentrated February - April Masssly 2021 A+F Dashboard
WikiGap Global All and any languages Gender Anyone who wishes to take part in bridging the gender gap is welcome to take part, or organize events themselves. WikiGap Season starts in March, but events can take place at any time. Eric Luth (WMSE) WikiGap
WikiGap Challenge Global All and any languages Gender Anyone who wishes to take part in a global challenge to write and improve articles on women is welcome. 8 March – 8 April Eric Luth (WMSE) WikiGap Challenge
Women in Red Global All and any languages Gender, art, activism, photos Anyone who wishes to take part in bridging the content and image gender gap by creating articles, uploading photos, and/or adding images to Wikipedia articles is welcome to participate. Women in Red facilitates new campaigns each month. These will take place 1-31 March. Rosiestep Art+Activism


"Mujeres con calle" EC-CO-UY-VE-PY-GT-BO-MX-CL-AR-PE-SV es women who bear their names on the streets. Everyone who speaks Spanish 01/03/2021 - 04/04/2021 Cftoro (WMCL) Mujeres con Calle
Tell us about Her Global All and any languages Women historical figures ISA Challenge to improve the metadata description of images of women. Theme will be related "historical figures" 8 March – 8 April Anthere to be defined
VisibleWikiWomen Global All and any languages #VisibleWikiWomen is a global campaign to add more images of women to Commons and Wikipedia Women’s and feminist organizations, culture and memory institutions, Wikipedia editors, user groups, chapters, and anyone who would like to give notable women the visibility and acknowledgment they deserve. 8 March – 8 May Señoritaleona and Pambelle12 2021 VWW campaign
Le donne in Dante IT-CH-AL-AR-VE (other countries where Italian is spoken) Italian Women in Dante's work. For the for the 700th anniversary of Dante's death, #LeDonneInDante is campaign to write on Wikipedia, Wikiquote and Wikibooks about the female figures of the Divina commedia Anyone who speaks Italian 25 March – 24 April Camelia WikiDonne/Le donne in Dante
Internationale Vrouwendag / Wikigap Challenge NL (other countries where Dutch is spoken) Dutch For one month, we are calling for (even) more articles to be created and/or improved on biographies of women and related topics on Wikipedia, in as many languages as possible. Special focus: Women in the Caribbean. We also encourage contributions to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Anyone who speaks Dutch/Flemish 6 March – 6 April Denise Jansen Wikigap Challenge / Internationale Vrouwendag 2021

Just a Question[edit]

@Ciell: Hello! In Latin America we have an editing contest for International Women's Day. I just add the contest data to the table? Thank you so much! --Carla Toro (WMCL) (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Cftoro (WMCL): Yes, that is the idea! Please add the specific countries and languages that this contest will be relevant for, so I know which settings to use in the central notice banner I will be setting up. And please for every language to be targetted, create a specific page (in that language) with information about the contest. I will approach you (or the contact you mention) by the end of February for the translation of the banner in the required languages. Ciell (talk) 17:29, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! We'll be in touch :-) --Carla Toro (WMCL) (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Question about page name[edit]

@Ciell: Hiya, I work for Wikimedia UK and we're planning a series of talks throughout March, going live on our YouTube every Monday. Is it possible to change the name of this page to Gender gap/International Women's Month? That way it can act as a handy list for events going on throughout the month. Thank you for creating the page, it's really wonderful to see what everyone's up to. --Katie Crampton (WMUK) (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2021 (GMT)

@Katie Crampton (WMUK): Hi there! I understand what you mean, but this specific page will become the landing page for all the global banner, where links will lead to the links of (local) pages about initiatives in the different languages and different topics. So I ask you to create your own subpage (here, or somewhere else in the Wikimedia domain) where you can refer to all the ongoing activities throughout the month of March. That's will become your link on this landing page. Ciell (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your quick response, I'll give that a go. --Katie Crampton (WMUK) (talk) 11:56, 9 February 2021 (GMT)
I think perhaps it would be best to have the banner be up for only 10 days and for it to promote "International Women's Day" events, while also briefly explaining on this page the concept of Women's Histoty Month as well, and having a comprehensive listing of events throughout the month. We would not want to disappoint someone who happened to click on the banner on March 10, and who might mistakenly think that there are no more events left.--Pharos (talk) 19:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I made a few proposals on how to accommodate both requests. I'm not sure of what the best solution for the name is, perhaps either to have "International Women's Day" but have "Women's History Month" redirect here, or the other way around. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
To be rather overly pendantic, the current page name is "International Womensday" - perhaps we should move this to "International Women's Day" which is the regular English spelling, or to "IWD" or "IWD2021" which are abbreviations and social media hashtags used by the UN.--Pharos (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
In the Netherlands we do have International Women's Day, but no International Women's Month. Int. Women's Month has (acc. to enwp) only been called to life in 2011, by president Obama. Though some people vaguely may know the term, we don't know this month. We may have a few partners that mention it in their newsletters, but that's it.
So to be on the safe side and not force "Americanisation" onto all languages and countries participating, I would be in favour of keeping the "Day". Ciell (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I agree that "International Women's Day" would be better. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
"International Women's Day" works for me. I was not suggesting that Women's History Month be in the title, only that in be mentioned in the text, which it is now. Incidentally, someine should fix the enwp article to make it clearer, Women's History Month has existed in the US since the 1980s.--Pharos (talk) 19:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply


Thanks, Ciell for getting this going! How about a banner that says something along the lines of "Celebrate International Women's Day! Click here to see efforts around the world" and then link to your landing page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ciell/Kladblok_8_maart --Kiraface (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Kiraface! I like your suggestion! My idea would be to have all the English language events summarized on one page. It then is possible to create language independent landing pages, and through translatewiki have every one create their own translation of the banner. Of course you would want banners to be more or less the same, but I can imagine the text of the banner could slightly differ, depending on the contents of the specific landing sub-page. Ciell (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Ciell and Kiraface: Would it be possible to redirect all banners to this landing page, open it up for translation, and make it translated into the languages and areas activated with the banner? As to avoid some confusion with many different pages? I could also imagine that people have settings in one language, but a willing to contribute in more (like for example I have English settings, but write mostly – when I do – in Swedish). Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Eric Luth (WMSE): yes, this is exactly the purpose of this page! For links to the events in different languages, I propose to use subpages like this one, to be created in all the languages that will be targetted by the banner. These can be included in the different translations of this one global landing page. Ciell (talk) 08:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Online text chat for support of editathon initiatives[edit]

I would like to suggest that we consider online text chat for support of editathon initiatives, particularly new editors participating and editors participating in areas where they have less experience. I've seen some great experiments recently with bringing in new editors over online text chat for virtual editathons during covid, and there is a real advantage in being able to sustain a conversation over a number of days.

We could have channels for multiple thematic initiatives, as well as in multiple languages. Possible platforms could be Telegram, Discord, Wikimedia Chat, or something more conventional like Slack. Though Telegram has the most people on it already, I think something like Discord or Wikimedia Chat with multiple channels and threaded conversations might be a better fit.--Pharos (talk) 03:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

We are currently looking into a patch for Wikimedia Chat (Mattermost) so that it works properly with mw:Help:OAuth and Wikimedia user accounts.--Pharos (talk) 17:47, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Invitation to gendergap forum on Wikimedia Chat.--Pharos (talk) 20:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Moved text from project page[edit]

Though I think this information is really nice to point to in a note, please mention activities about Womens History Month, or even tear round activities as a note on the language specific landing page you create.

This landing page will only be to direct people towards language- or topic-specific events for Int. Womens Day. I would like to keep the information short an to the point, therefore moved all the extra headers to this talkpage. Ciell (talk) 16:27, 14 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Events taking place on or around International Women's Day[edit]

Events calendar[edit]

I think it might be good to utilize {{Events calendar}} for this page. @Ainali: has just added a Wikigap tag that we can you to filter out a calendar for March on this page, or we could make use of multiple tags. Since several of the campaigns run over a week or longer, perhaps the focus could be on single-day events or the start day for events. See also Events calendar/about for background.--Pharos (talk) 21:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

I have added the calendar, with a filter for all "Wikigap"-tagged events in March, and have started filling it out. For longer events, I just did the start day. I also think this could work for many of the sub-events, such as the various A+F editathons on different topics and with different cultural partners.--Pharos (talk) 18:34, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hmmm; Not a bad idea at all for daily events. But I am less convinced when it comes to events during several days or even the full month. I also think that it would be useful to have small description of each type of initiative directly in the meta page to avoid people have to click on dozen their links before they find their best option. Could we settle on a mix of small description with list of initiatives + the calendar ? Anthere (talk)

Yes maybe that's a good idea? Having a brief explanation of the different initiatives on the main page, and the calendar below it? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 09:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I think a brief explanation of the major initiatives, followed by the calendar with everything, should work.--Pharos (talk) 19:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi @Pharos:, separate query but thought I'd jump in here under the events calendar heading. I'm having some trouble adding an event to the calendar. Strangely enough it has the event in my user contributions, but it's not appearing on the calendar even when I clear my cache. There's a series of interviews we're doing on YouTube every Monday at 4pm GMT with women who are working to close the gap, and I'd love to get them on here. Any ideas? Thanks --Katie Crampton (WMUK) (Katie Crampton (WMUK)) 15:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Katie Crampton: we're having a call for the banner tomorrow (17 UTC on Zoom), but I don't have you email address to send you an invite. If you (or any one reading along here) would like to join, please send me an email. Ciell (talk) 16:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Katie Crampton (WMUK): It appears that you added the Kira interview multiple times, and did not include the "Wikigap" tag. I will delete your event and re-add it. @TrudiJ: You seem to have a similar issue, I will delete your extra duplications, and add the "Wikigap" tag.--Pharos (talk) 16:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I have fixed both events on the calendar now.--Pharos (talk) 17:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Pharos: Thank you very much for fixing this. I couldn't get it to show up, hence the multiple attempts. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. --TrudiJ (talk) 09:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Pharos: Thank you so much for fixing and adding the event, I'll add the rest in the series, I now know I should have added the Wikigap tag. Thanks for explaining. --Katie Crampton (WMUK) 10:459, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@Pharos: could you please change the start time for March 6/ Internationale Vrouwendag (NL) to 13:00 UTC? Thanks! Ciell (talk) 19:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Initiatives vs Events[edit]

We discussed in the conference call yesterday how to distingush initiatives, which often include multiple events, from singular events that may or may not be part of a larger initiative. We currently have two separate sections for Gender gap/International Women's Day#Initiatives and Gender gap/International Women's Day#Events, the latter being populated by the calendar. We discussed during the call the possibility of including other efforts that wish to consider themselves initiatives (particularly those organized by language), and that if there are more than a few we should probably just make it a straight list of initiatives, and not include descriptive text for all of the initiatives.--Pharos (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Pharos: The landing page is great! I couldn't participate in the call, but I'm following the discussion here. Just flagging that the #VisibleWikiWomen initiative includes several events in different parts of the world, so I think that is better to include it in the initiatives list. We are working in partnership with Women in Red for the Women's History Month, but also with others UG, chapters and partners beyond Wikimedia, through different activities and in different languages. If I'm understanding well the criteria and there is no objection, I can edit the list to include VWW. That's ok? Thanks! --Señoritaleona (talk) 23:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Local <> International banner in 2021 on NL:WP[edit]

Hello all, unfortunately I was unable to participate in the talk last Saturday. I think it's a very good initiative to explore whether a joint banner and landing page can be realized.

The current proposal for the landing page is very nice, but I expect that for recruitment of participants for our event it is not effective enough. People have to search for the NL activities and click more often than when they come directly to the NL page. It is not immediately clear how they can participate in the activity we offer. I will therefore ask Ciell to turn on our local banner + landing page for this year. I am happy to talk about setting up a joint international banner (+landing page) next year. Denise Jansen WMNL (talk) 11:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Notability standard[edit]

To a first-order approximation, coverage on Wikipedia is driven by notability standards. If a woman crushes a forest, and no notable source records her heroic effort, does anyone get to write it up on Wikipedia?

This is not a logic puzzle. The very clear answer is "no".

A secondary problem is that human society tends to over-journalize de-spoilage, and under-journalize conservation.

Our notability requirements fundamentally reward bad behaviour.

Just now modern society is beginning to take the hard turn into closed consumption cycles (don't tell Apple, they are still fudamentally in love with half the world trashing their shiny iPhone after two years). But it's going to take a decade or two for the next generation of notable coverage to emerge concerning the heroic efforts of men and women (now taking the lead in a modest majority) to reshape our global consumption patterns. Only then will men and woman be anywhere near to an equal footing on both sides of the harsh notability guilotine.

Meanwhile, does this initiative amount to a large gossip campaign to lower the notability standard for deserving women, without actually writing this new policy down? If so, colour me unimpressed: I remain 100% old-school on policy written down. MaxEnt (talk) 22:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

What proportion of women who could (according to notability rules) have articles actually do? What proportion of men? There are very good reasons to suppose that women are being written about proportionally less often, in part as a result of fields in which women are more likely (due to social factors) to make notable contributions being undercovered. A very large percentage of editors are male, and editors tend to write articles mostly on subjects that interest them: what does this tell you about the likely coverage of subjects (such as the history of food or dress, for example) which attract more women than men?
I’m not making any definitive assertion about the reasons behind the current small number of articles about women. Rather, I am simply pointing out that there are plenty of possible reasons for the situation other than fewer women being notable. Sephistication (talk) 19:00, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Bulan Wiki Perempuan initiative[edit]

Hello! We here in Indonesia are currently holding "Bulan Wiki Perempuan" (Wiki Women's Month) to celebrate the International Women's Day. We have prepared our page here: Bulan Wiki Perempuan. May we add our initiative and its events right away to the English page and the calendar? Thank you. Rima H (WMID) (talk) 00:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Rima H (WMID): yes, off course: go ahead! If you need help let us know, Pharos knows how to work with the automatically generated calendar. Ciell (talk) 11:56, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

A big knowledge gender gap[edit]

Oh there's a huge knowledge gender gap alright https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/aug/28/university-gender-gap-at-record-high-as-30000-more-women-accepted https://www.studyinternational.com/news/record-high-numbers-women-outnumbering-men-university-globally/

Women are 36% more likely to apply to university than men in the UK. In countries like Malaysia, the number rises to 64%. Some countries have "positive discrimination" women-only appliances for some universities, to force to "balance out" and get more women and fewer men in "male dominated" areas like STEM.

Wikipedia shouldn't meddle with politics and be a gender/race/culture agnostic community that promotes equal and free knowledge to everyone, for the entire world.

With all the big issues women still face nowadays in some countries, organizers focus on "20% only of bios are about women" when you should know that almost all of those are historical figures, in a world that until a century ago was almost exclusively about men workers and women caretakers and householders... What other bios would you write about other than people in power, artists, and other prominent figures... See recent bios, maybe you'll find percentages more to your liking.

Africa, most parts of Asia, Latin America, and part of Oceania still don't have proper education, with an average of 9% of children that don't get primary education, and 16% never set foot in a secondary school; the out-of-school rate rises to 37% in upper secondary school age https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000245238 Maybe this is what Wikipedia should focus on about, as a community for knowledge. 263 million minors that don't get their chances to receive proper education and a better life with it.

To me, the title of the "knowledge gender gap" is incredibly misleading. It seems to imply that women have less knowledge than men, which isn't true at all, our knowledge has just been historically devalued or vilified. A more accurate title would read "wikipedia's biographies gender gap" and put the owe-ness on wikipedia to do better for their biographies, not on women to know more. YIKES.

Utterly illogical article[edit]

The article says "Wikipedia hosts 1.7 million biographies. Not even 20 % of those are about women." So what? There is obviously going to be more articles about men. Men have achieved far more in history because the role of women has traditionally been one of supporting men, running the home, and raising children. It is obvious that any account of history would therefore focus more on men.

Clearly, women have NOT had equal significance in the history of mankind, nor were they in a position to. So the idea of "balancing the gender gap" in historical articles is frankly absurd, and would be giving a very odd and distorted account of history.

Feminism has only RECENTLY gained widespread acceptance by the majority in the west. The idea of men and women being regarded as completely identical and interchangeable is a radical new way of seeing the world that did not exist 50 years ago, and is not observed in other parts of the world today. Given that Wikipedia is the product of the modern West and embraces modern Western values, it MIGHT be somewhat acceptable to seek to have "gender equality" in articles concerning 21st century America, but not for the REST OF HISTORY! That is beyond illogical!

Further, who are you to dictate what is of public interest? If most biographies about modern Americans are about men, there obviously must be good reason for that, that is what people are interested in. To try to artificially boost the number of articles about women merely on the basis of "equality" is ridiculous, and misrepresents what the public are actually interested in. It's like saying "There are more articles about music stars than there are about toilets - we need to redress the balance!" Grand Dizzy (talk) 09:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I too find this opening statement so obviously flawed. I am new to Wikipedia contributions. Is there a - perhaps democratic - process with which such controversial decisions are made (or can be reverted) here? w4rum (talk) 09:42, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

.... sealioning .....Nattes à chat (talk) 10:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC) what does sealioning have to do with it? (this one is sealioning!)Reply

I just wanted to highlight the idiocy of the opening statement that "we have to close the knowledge gap", historically it makes no sense whatsoever.-- 11:12, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Actually feminism is not new. I also thought it was a modern phenomena, but it is not. Please refer to J.D. Unwin's "Sex and Culture" starting at page 369. Feminism has existed at various times in history (think Sumeria, Babylon, Athens, Rome ...) when females achieved financial and legal emancipation. This was also symptomatic of end of the life cycle of that culture and within a few generations that culture collapsed. Why? Because then as today feminism signaled a rise in adultery, easy divorce, high divorce rates, illegitimate children, and men who didn't want to marry such women and be forced to raise children who may not be theirs, or children they could not see. The total fertility rate of the country declined. The culture rotted from the inside and then collapsed when it faced a sudden external challenge. Just think about it: would you risk your life fighting for a country where you could be legally kicked out on the street or jailed, no proof required, by the false accusations of a women? You do not have anything worth fighting for because it is not your family and they are not your children, they are hers. Also Unwin points out that once started the process of feminization is irreversible and continues until the host society dies and is then replaced by a male dominated society. And then the cycle repeats itself. The expression "Feminism is cancer" is more true than you thought. See Unwin for details. It is available on the Internet Archives for free.

Pointless goal[edit]

There have always been more male figures in history. “Closing the gender gap” is impossible. There simply are not so many outstanding women.

They have to make them up of falsely attribute accomplishments to females that they actually didn't earn. Take for example Hypatia. Practically nothing is known about her except the basics and that she was murdered on a certian date. But feminists have created a whole mythology about her that has no solid basis. She is now a towering figure in mathematics, astronomy and philosophy. No proof required just a wave of the feminist magic wand.

^^ this is sexist and uninformed, please delete.

Cosa significa `Gender gap` in Italiano?[edit]

no comment, nessuna donazione.

Nelle pagine di wikipedia in lingua Italiana, compare: `gender gap`.

Che significa? è forse intraducibile nella lingua Italiana?

anche perciò, non contribuisco più, sia nei contributi che economicamente, a wikipedia.

Cordiali Saluti, già censurato, Isidoro Ghezzi.

Todo esta en inglés, esto excluye a todas las personas que no saben ni una sola gota de inglés.--AnelGTR (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
AnelGTR: Tienes el texto en español aquí. El link también aparece en la parte superior de la página. Atentamente, Savhñ 14:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply


@Eric Luth (WMSE): Is this still under construction? There have been no constructive edits in over a month. * Pppery * it has begun 14:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Pppery: No it can be taken away. We created Celebrate Women instead of this page, which was used last year. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 06:21, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Reply