Talk:Gender gap/International Women's Day

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Events for banner targetting[edit]

For the targetting of the global Central Notice banner (1-10 March 2021)

  1. create an landing page for your language I can link to from the general landing page: remember to keep it as simple as possible for newbies, like this one for instance.
  2. Then please fill in the table below, so I can target the banner according to the events that are joining us for International Women's Day.

Ciell (talk) 08:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

(Courtesy ping for @Masssly, Cftoro (WMCL), Eric Luth (WMSE), DDJJ, Rosiestep, and Kiraface:) Ciell (talk) 11:33, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
(Courtesy ping for @Camelia.boban and Señoritaleona:) --Rosiestep (talk) 18:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ciell: I'm still not sure exactly how this is planned to work. For WikiGap, Art+Feminism and several of the other events, the events will be multilingual (opening up for any language). How can we meaningfully divide one landing page per language for those? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:30, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
@Eric Luth (WMSE): I see what you mean, but do these initiatives not provide language specific lists or events? How would you approach and motivate different languages for these events? In what languages is the initiative and the event explained? Ciell (talk) 09:58, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
If you go to Art+Feminism programs for example on Dashboard, you see that they have 74 specific programs. Might be a bit overkill to create 74 independent landing pages? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 10:08, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
But these events don't seem to be events around 8th of March 2021? And that would exactly the kind of overkill I would like to avoid...
This dashboard mostly does not mention any language or topic, but merely the group of persons that are active with the activity. But for instance for #WikiGap you have language-specific pages, correct? And so you could compile a landingpage for those languages, one where other events in the same language can be mentioned. Working together seems to me is the best way to map all the different events. Ciell (talk) 19:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Art+Feminism takes place on plenty of dates, some on 8 March, some not. But with this setup, I don't think there will be any link to any Art+Feminism event, which we might want to inform Masssly and Kiraface about.
And no, WikiGap is not divided by language but most often by country. There can be English language editors in Sweden and French language editors in England, etc. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 11:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I feel a slight confusion as to what form the landing pages you are envisioning should take. Is it this template? User:Ciell/Kladblok_8_maart But I assume that most organizers won't be able to integrate that into their campaigns. Maybe we should organize a call with all involved just to make clear 1) what is needed from a technical point of view 2) how that integrates best with the setup of the different campaigns? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 11:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Event Country Language Theme Who can take part? Start - and end date Coordinator of the event Link to your event page
Art+Feminism Global All and any languages Gender, feminism, and the arts Anyone and everyone regardless of experience, gender, or background, is welcome to attend or organize Art+Feminism events. Year Round, but concentrated February - April Masssly 2021 A+F Dashboard
WikiGap Global All and any languages Gender Anyone who wishes to take part in bridging the gender gap is welcome to take part, or organize events themselves. WikiGap Season starts in March, but events can take place at any time. Eric Luth (WMSE) WikiGap
WikiGap Challenge Global All and any languages Gender Anyone who wishes to take part in a global challenge to write and improve articles on women is welcome. 8 March – 8 April Eric Luth (WMSE) WikiGap Challenge
Women in Red Global All and any languages Gender, art, activism, photos Anyone who wishes to take part in bridging the content and image gender gap by creating articles, uploading photos, and/or adding images to Wikipedia articles is welcome to participate. Women in Red facilitates new campaigns each month. These will take place 1-31 March. Rosiestep Art+Activism

VisibleWikiWomen

"Mujeres con calle" EC-CO-UY-VE-PY-GT-BO-MX-CL-AR-PE-SV es women who bear their names on the streets. Everyone who speaks Spanish 01/03/2021 - 04/04/2021 Cftoro (WMCL) Mujeres con Calle
Tell us about Her Global All and any languages Women historical figures ISA Challenge to improve the metadata description of images of women. Theme will be related "historical figures" 8 March – 8 April Anthere to be defined
VisibleWikiWomen Global All and any languages #VisibleWikiWomen is a global campaign to add more images of women to Commons and Wikipedia Women’s and feminist organizations, culture and memory institutions, Wikipedia editors, user groups, chapters, and anyone who would like to give notable women the visibility and acknowledgment they deserve. 8 March – 8 May Señoritaleona and Pambelle12 2021 VWW campaign
Le donne in Dante IT-CH-AL-AR-VE (other countries where Italian is spoken) Italian Women in Dante's work. For the for the 700th anniversary of Dante's death, #LeDonneInDante is campaign to write on Wikipedia, Wikiquote and Wikibooks about the female figures of the Divina commedia Anyone who speaks Italian 25 March – 24 April Camelia WikiDonne/Le donne in Dante
Internationale Vrouwendag / Wikigap Challenge NL (other countries where Dutch is spoken) Dutch For one month, we are calling for (even) more articles to be created and/or improved on biographies of women and related topics on Wikipedia, in as many languages as possible. Special focus: Women in the Caribbean. We also encourage contributions to Wikimedia Commons and Wikidata. Anyone who speaks Dutch/Flemish 6 March – 6 April Denise Jansen Wikigap Challenge / Internationale Vrouwendag 2021

Just a Question[edit]

@Ciell: Hello! In Latin America we have an editing contest for International Women's Day. I just add the contest data to the table? Thank you so much! --Carla Toro (WMCL) (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Cftoro (WMCL): Yes, that is the idea! Please add the specific countries and languages that this contest will be relevant for, so I know which settings to use in the central notice banner I will be setting up. And please for every language to be targetted, create a specific page (in that language) with information about the contest. I will approach you (or the contact you mention) by the end of February for the translation of the banner in the required languages. Ciell (talk) 17:29, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! We'll be in touch :-) --Carla Toro (WMCL) (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Question about page name[edit]

@Ciell: Hiya, I work for Wikimedia UK and we're planning a series of talks throughout March, going live on our YouTube every Monday. Is it possible to change the name of this page to Gender gap/International Women's Month? That way it can act as a handy list for events going on throughout the month. Thank you for creating the page, it's really wonderful to see what everyone's up to. --Katie Crampton (WMUK) (talk) 17:12, 8 February 2021 (GMT)

@Katie Crampton (WMUK): Hi there! I understand what you mean, but this specific page will become the landing page for all the global banner, where links will lead to the links of (local) pages about initiatives in the different languages and different topics. So I ask you to create your own subpage (here, or somewhere else in the Wikimedia domain) where you can refer to all the ongoing activities throughout the month of March. That's will become your link on this landing page. Ciell (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick response, I'll give that a go. --Katie Crampton (WMUK) (talk) 11:56, 9 February 2021 (GMT)
I think perhaps it would be best to have the banner be up for only 10 days and for it to promote "International Women's Day" events, while also briefly explaining on this page the concept of Women's Histoty Month as well, and having a comprehensive listing of events throughout the month. We would not want to disappoint someone who happened to click on the banner on March 10, and who might mistakenly think that there are no more events left.--Pharos (talk) 19:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I made a few proposals on how to accommodate both requests. I'm not sure of what the best solution for the name is, perhaps either to have "International Women's Day" but have "Women's History Month" redirect here, or the other way around. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 19:11, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
To be rather overly pendantic, the current page name is "International Womensday" - perhaps we should move this to "International Women's Day" which is the regular English spelling, or to "IWD" or "IWD2021" which are abbreviations and social media hashtags used by the UN.--Pharos (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
In the Netherlands we do have International Women's Day, but no International Women's Month. Int. Women's Month has (acc. to enwp) only been called to life in 2011, by president Obama. Though some people vaguely may know the term, we don't know this month. We may have a few partners that mention it in their newsletters, but that's it.
So to be on the safe side and not force "Americanisation" onto all languages and countries participating, I would be in favour of keeping the "Day". Ciell (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
I agree that "International Women's Day" would be better. Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
"International Women's Day" works for me. I was not suggesting that Women's History Month be in the title, only that in be mentioned in the text, which it is now. Incidentally, someine should fix the enwp article to make it clearer, Women's History Month has existed in the US since the 1980s.--Pharos (talk) 19:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks, Ciell for getting this going! How about a banner that says something along the lines of "Celebrate International Women's Day! Click here to see efforts around the world" and then link to your landing page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ciell/Kladblok_8_maart --Kiraface (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kiraface! I like your suggestion! My idea would be to have all the English language events summarized on one page. It then is possible to create language independent landing pages, and through translatewiki have every one create their own translation of the banner. Of course you would want banners to be more or less the same, but I can imagine the text of the banner could slightly differ, depending on the contents of the specific landing sub-page. Ciell (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ciell and Kiraface: Would it be possible to redirect all banners to this landing page, open it up for translation, and make it translated into the languages and areas activated with the banner? As to avoid some confusion with many different pages? I could also imagine that people have settings in one language, but a willing to contribute in more (like for example I have English settings, but write mostly – when I do – in Swedish). Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
@Eric Luth (WMSE): yes, this is exactly the purpose of this page! For links to the events in different languages, I propose to use subpages like this one, to be created in all the languages that will be targetted by the banner. These can be included in the different translations of this one global landing page. Ciell (talk) 08:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Online text chat for support of editathon initiatives[edit]

I would like to suggest that we consider online text chat for support of editathon initiatives, particularly new editors participating and editors participating in areas where they have less experience. I've seen some great experiments recently with bringing in new editors over online text chat for virtual editathons during covid, and there is a real advantage in being able to sustain a conversation over a number of days.

We could have channels for multiple thematic initiatives, as well as in multiple languages. Possible platforms could be Telegram, Discord, Wikimedia Chat, or something more conventional like Slack. Though Telegram has the most people on it already, I think something like Discord or Wikimedia Chat with multiple channels and threaded conversations might be a better fit.--Pharos (talk) 03:47, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

We are currently looking into a patch for Wikimedia Chat (Mattermost) so that it works properly with mw:Help:OAuth and Wikimedia user accounts.--Pharos (talk) 17:47, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Invitation to gendergap forum on Wikimedia Chat.--Pharos (talk) 20:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Moved text from project page[edit]

Though I think this information is really nice to point to in a note, please mention activities about Womens History Month, or even tear round activities as a note on the language specific landing page you create.

This landing page will only be to direct people towards language- or topic-specific events for Int. Womens Day. I would like to keep the information short an to the point, therefore moved all the extra headers to this talkpage. Ciell (talk) 16:27, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Events taking place on or around International Women's Day[edit]

Events calendar[edit]

I think it might be good to utilize {{Events calendar}} for this page. @Ainali: has just added a Wikigap tag that we can you to filter out a calendar for March on this page, or we could make use of multiple tags. Since several of the campaigns run over a week or longer, perhaps the focus could be on single-day events or the start day for events. See also Events calendar/about for background.--Pharos (talk) 21:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I have added the calendar, with a filter for all "Wikigap"-tagged events in March, and have started filling it out. For longer events, I just did the start day. I also think this could work for many of the sub-events, such as the various A+F editathons on different topics and with different cultural partners.--Pharos (talk) 18:34, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmmm; Not a bad idea at all for daily events. But I am less convinced when it comes to events during several days or even the full month. I also think that it would be useful to have small description of each type of initiative directly in the meta page to avoid people have to click on dozen their links before they find their best option. Could we settle on a mix of small description with list of initiatives + the calendar ? Anthere (talk)

Yes maybe that's a good idea? Having a brief explanation of the different initiatives on the main page, and the calendar below it? Eric Luth (WMSE) (talk) 09:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I think a brief explanation of the major initiatives, followed by the calendar with everything, should work.--Pharos (talk) 19:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Pharos:, separate query but thought I'd jump in here under the events calendar heading. I'm having some trouble adding an event to the calendar. Strangely enough it has the event in my user contributions, but it's not appearing on the calendar even when I clear my cache. There's a series of interviews we're doing on YouTube every Monday at 4pm GMT with women who are working to close the gap, and I'd love to get them on here. Any ideas? Thanks --Katie Crampton (WMUK) (Katie Crampton (WMUK)) 15:31, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Katie Crampton: we're having a call for the banner tomorrow (17 UTC on Zoom), but I don't have you email address to send you an invite. If you (or any one reading along here) would like to join, please send me an email. Ciell (talk) 16:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Katie Crampton (WMUK): It appears that you added the Kira interview multiple times, and did not include the "Wikigap" tag. I will delete your event and re-add it. @TrudiJ: You seem to have a similar issue, I will delete your extra duplications, and add the "Wikigap" tag.--Pharos (talk) 16:53, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I have fixed both events on the calendar now.--Pharos (talk) 17:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@Pharos: Thank you very much for fixing this. I couldn't get it to show up, hence the multiple attempts. I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong. --TrudiJ (talk) 09:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
@Pharos: Thank you so much for fixing and adding the event, I'll add the rest in the series, I now know I should have added the Wikigap tag. Thanks for explaining. --Katie Crampton (WMUK) 10:459, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Initiatives vs Events[edit]

We discussed in the conference call yesterday how to distingush initiatives, which often include multiple events, from singular events that may or may not be part of a larger initiative. We currently have two separate sections for Gender gap/International Women's Day#Initiatives and Gender gap/International Women's Day#Events, the latter being populated by the calendar. We discussed during the call the possibility of including other efforts that wish to consider themselves initiatives (particularly those organized by language), and that if there are more than a few we should probably just make it a straight list of initiatives, and not include descriptive text for all of the initiatives.--Pharos (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Local <> International banner in 2021 on NL:WP[edit]

Hello all, unfortunately I was unable to participate in the talk last Saturday. I think it's a very good initiative to explore whether a joint banner and landing page can be realized.

The current proposal for the landing page is very nice, but I expect that for recruitment of participants for our event it is not effective enough. People have to search for the NL activities and click more often than when they come directly to the NL page. It is not immediately clear how they can participate in the activity we offer. I will therefore ask Ciell to turn on our local banner + landing page for this year. I am happy to talk about setting up a joint international banner (+landing page) next year. Denise Jansen WMNL (talk) 11:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)