Talk:Programs & Events Dashboard

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New name / design[edit]

Hello all!

As I have become a heavy user of the Dashboard, I have realized it is --at least in Portuguese-- too hard to use the full name of the tool (Programs & Events Dashboard). Moreover, it makes little sense to say the name of the tool in Portuguese (Painel de controle), as this is not the name of the tool on the website --plus, the name on the site (Outreach Dashboard) is different from the name on-wiki (Programs & Events Dashboard). This is confusing, IMHO.

I suggest we consolidate an 'international' name for the tool --maybe just 'Dashboard'. What do you think?

Moreover, it'd be nice if we could come up with a logo for the tool. I guess we should wait for discussing the name of the tool before we do the logo.

Any thoughts on these issues? Thanks all. --Joalpe (talk) 03:15, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Joalpe I agree, I would like to change the name. "Dashboard" is better but maybe that name is too general.
I think that comparable tools for other media platforms include Tweetdeck, Hootsuite, and en:Sprinklr. There are lots of these tools and professional management of online communities is a major business sector. If we rename this, then I think that the name should reflect the various groups which use this tool:
  • Wikipedia community groups and chapters who are doing in-person peer to peer outreach
  • Expert partner institutions, such as in science, medicine, the arts, or museums, which are sharing their expertise on Wikipedia and using the tool to track the impact
  • Universities, which have student groups as new editors under professors who mostly are unfamiliar with Wikipedia editing
  • Researchers who set up instances of this tool without engaging with editors at all, but who want information on what Wikipedia editors do
The name "Dashboard works". I think that I prefer the term "wiki" somewhere in the name, like "WikiDashboard" or "WikiDash". Riffing off other familiar names, it could be "WikiDeck" or "WikiSuite". There are already tools called "WikiMetrics", but I think that the dashboard is a better use for that term than the current tool set called by that name.
Whatever name we choose, it should be accessible, and easy to say because lots of people will have to speak it outloud, and the words have to be easy to say in all languages because this tool already has multilingual support. Do you have other suggestions to consider? I agree with you about the logo. This project needs a logo because I can easily imagine hundreds of media professionals showing the logo in routine media presentations all organizations throughout the world, perpetually. Someday Wikipedia engagement will grow professionally in the same way that all universities, etc have staff investments in twitter, Facebook, blogging, and the rest, and the dashboard provides the metrics justification for putting stafftime in Wiki engagement. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Refresh of the statistics[edit]

Hello there,

It's me again.

We began our contributive week here at UCL but the tool doesn't seem to take the articles into account. I don't know if there is a delay before the numbers are updated.

But here some articles were created and updated and it's not shown in the stats. It's just enough to take a look at the recent contributions of w:fr:AuCeCla. But there is no mention of those articles on the program page.

Thanks for the help Ogoletti (talk) 17:41, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, my program page on outreach is : https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/UCL/Venez_Contribuer and the stats I talk about are those at the top. Ogoletti (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
There is often a delay in refreshing the numbers. If you still don't see numbers that look accurate after 24 hours please let us know! Also, make sure your start and end dates/times are accurate just to be safe. Tighe Flanagan (WMF) (talk) 14:36, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi @TFlanagan-WMF:, if you take a look on the program page, you can read (in small on the right under the stats) : According to the last system update. Last update: 4 days ago. And it wasn't indeed updated since monday. I read here : Programs_&_Events_Dashboard/Using_the_Dashboard#Metrics_and_tracking that I had to wait 24h, that's why I asked. I found here : [1] and here : [2] that a '/manual_update' should work, but it didn't on my page... It should be doable though.... Any more info on this ? Thanks Ogoletti (talk) 08:34, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
@Ogoletti and TFlanagan-WMF: Hi. There seems to be a delay, indeed. My course page informs me no update has taken place in the last 4 days, though I know statistics should have changed as new content was produced. I have reported this through the "Report a problem" tab. --Joalpe (talk) 14:35, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
I experience the same problem too with lags of up to 1-2 days. I'm not sure what "last update" is supposed to mean, but it certainly doesn't mean "these are the up-to-date stats as at that time". The curious thing is that if you download an activity spreadsheet, it often does contain the more recent activity but this isn't reflected in the "headline numbers" on the dashboard. One of the problems with the dashboard is that the program participants know about it and they like to check it at the end of a session and they expect it to be up-to-date. They know that article histories and user contributions are always up-to-date so they don't quite understand why the dashboard (which after all is just an aggregation of users and articles) isn't. If we hosted dashboard on individual Wikipedias rather than Meta, could we get the dashboards to run closer to real-time? Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:49, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Article view data[edit]

Is it possible to annotate the article view data with the start date from when those views commenced being counted? This is an issue where the dashboard is being created after the program has commenced. For example, this is a dashboard I created for our 2017 1Lib1Ref. For some time, it didn't show any article views and I thought, oh well, I guess that just a limitation I have to be live with as it was set up months afterwards. But then I noticed that it had begun to track article views, but I would like to know "from when" as clearly it's not the normal "from the time first edited by a progam participant". Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I am having trouble adding content[edit]

I can't seem to find out how to create the program with adding content. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PatO1953 (talk) 19:09, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

@PatO1953: Apologies for the delay in getting a response here. You can find guidance on creating a program at Programs & Events Dashboard/Using the Dashboard. If you have any more specific questions, please feel free to write them here. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Language problem[edit]

HI, I am the novice here. I was adviced by first man of wikipedia in Serbia to use dashboard for evaluation in a classroom. Whwn I start to make new program, it throughs me :There was an error: Invalid language/project I put Serbian, Srpski, English and each time is same result. What is a problem? All the best from Goran.

@Бојанић Горан: The Home Language field should be 'sr' and Home Project should be 'wikipedia', if you want to use the Serbian Wikipedia. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

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<A custom dashboard is shown in a layout similar to the per-user dashboard, but the sections are entirely configured from the URL. Because of this custom dashboards are stateless on the server side. Users or projects can simply trade URLs using an external system like a project wiki, or site administrators can put the links into the site’s.>

Cannot delete[edit]

I am not able to delete an independent program, get an error, "all campaigns have been deleted first". Ganeshk (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/500_Women_Scientists/Atlanta_Women_Scientist_Editathon

@Ganeshk: You can't delete a course until all campaigns have been removed from it first (this one was part of the Miscellanea campaign). I've removed that campaign so you should be able to delete the course now. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:42, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

How can I divide my students in sub-groups in a Wikis program ?[edit]

I have 198 students attending advanced reading and writing class. How can I group them in small task units so that my weekly reading and writing task will be finished as I expect?

Does not work[edit]

Dashboard does not work properly. We created here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres_latinoamericanas/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration_II 33 new articles in https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Mujeres_Latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia/InterWikiWomen_II_2018/home but the dashboard says only 21. It is wrong.--Jalu (talk) 01:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Jalu: Can you provide more details? Which articles are you expecting to see that aren't showing up?--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Sage (Wiki Ed). I already gave you the links with the list of articles. Here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres_latinoamericanas/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration_II you see that we have created 33 articles, as I said, and here https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Mujeres_Latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia/InterWikiWomen_II_2018/home you can see that the dashboard shows 21 articles created, many articles are missing, so the dashboard does not works well. All the articles have been created during the time of the dashboard, and all editors are in the dashboard. The account is very simple, 33 - 21 = 13. What else or which other detail do you need? Please tell me. Thanks in advance. --Jalu (talk) 02:07, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

I suppose this is because it is set to Article Scoped Program. This feature counts only edits (and article creations and so on) in articles that are (in the Dashboard) assigned to individual participants. Each participant is able to assign articles to themselves, facilitators are able to assign articles to every participant. As I can see, you have 22 articles assigned to individual participants. Out of those 22 articles, 21 were created and one was modified. This is just what the Dashboad says. If you assign more articles to your participants, the Dashboard will include them in its statistics. If you want all edits made by your participants, then it cannot be set as Article Scoped program (I'd suggest to not set any specific course type). As the course ended, if you decide to change the type, then you must press schedule data update button in order to get data updated (automatic updating is disabled for courses that already ended, as number of created articles usually doesn't change after a course ended). Is this more clear to you? Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 05:03, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Drafts are not counted as new articles when published[edit]

Hi, I was begi nning tp gather information on a campaign run in 2018 and I noticed that at least here (I did not check for the others) drafts published are not counted as new articles which is problemetic ti know how many new articles have been published. How can I get these figures? Kind regards, Nattes à chat

@Nattes à chat: Could you link a few articles that should have been counted but weren't? Thanks, Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

User renaming is not detected[edit]

On https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Goethe_Institut_Lyon/%C3%89ditathon_Erbst%C3%BCcke/students (where all users were added by myself, not with individual inscription), one user account has been renamed while editing (GhostrwriteuseGhostwriteuse). I had to manually remove the old username and add the new one, after having seen the name didn’t change while other changes (octets count, edit list) had been processed. — Ltrlg (talk),

Uploads[edit]

I have recently created this program which is limited to Category:New South Wales State Heritage Register and that seems to be working fine. But I was a little staggered about the number of uploads (a lot more than I would have expected). Then I look at the uploads associated with me (a relatively minor player in the program) and it become obvious that these are all of my uploads not just uploads into either Commons category:New South Wales State Heritage Register nor uploaded images added to articles in that category. I think the upload count should probably be restricted to either a nominated Commons category and/or files uploaded and added to the Wikipedia article category, otherwise those of us who are active outside of a program will be getting our uploads doubly, triply, multiply counted across many programs. Previously I have left myself out of programs where I was a participant because they were not restricted to a category (and hence all of my edits would have been wrongly attributed to them) but I thought I would be safe with this one because it was category-limited but I see that is only half true (working fine with the articles) but not with the uploads. Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

That's a great suggestion that, as far as I know, isn't currently supported. I've filed an Issue on Github. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
This makes a lot of sense, so I second this proposal by Kerry Raymond. Thanks. --Joalpe (talk) 12:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

An option to hide Wikidata[edit]

Hello,

During a training for Wiktionary, some expert was also doing some edit on Wikidata, and it could be a lot of edit, parasiting the list of edits made during the training. Those contribution are made during the session but are not related to the current project and should be hidden if needed. Could it be possible to add an option to not register contributions made in Wikidata during a session? I think it can be elected before the session. -- Noé (talk) 09:19, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

I think this would be quite useful, along with the ability to restrict tracked edits to particular projects. Filed an issue. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:35, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the issues, I am not familiar with GitHub nor with the development plan for this tool. Great! Face-smile.svg Noé (talk) 11:39, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

View full contribution history[edit]

Hello again,

In Editors page, when I click on someone's name, the last line is "View full contribution history on Wikipedia", but the session could be focused on another project, such as Wiktionary. The link is then correct but the wording should be corrected for a more general statement like "View full contribution history". -- Noé (talk) 09:24, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Good suggestion! I've filed an issue for this. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Wiktionary content namespaces[edit]

Hello again,

Three in a row. So, in Wiktionary, Main is not the only namespace with content. In French Wiktionary, ns:100 is for Annexe and ns:106 is for Thésaurus. In English Wiktionary, ns:110 is Thesaurus. Those should be taken into account by the Dashboard. We organized a session with a thesaurus as a central point and we were sad to discover this page was not included in the dashboard. We added it manually but it would be better if this could be included in the standard configuration. -- Noé (talk) 09:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Issue filed. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:36, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

campaign miscategorized -- how can I move it to Asian Month?[edit]

I made an error with my categorization. It should be WAM (Asian month). How can I move it from Miscellanea to Asian Month? Will this affect getting the event's totals into WAM stats overall?

thanks, CatonMA2 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

@CatonMA2: You can change the course category by clicking Edit Details on the program page. However, I'm not seeing any campaigns for Wikimedia Asian Month. Are you sure that campaign has already been created? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)