Talk:Programs & Events Dashboard

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New name / design[edit]

Hello all!

As I have become a heavy user of the Dashboard, I have realized it is --at least in Portuguese-- too hard to use the full name of the tool (Programs & Events Dashboard). Moreover, it makes little sense to say the name of the tool in Portuguese (Painel de controle), as this is not the name of the tool on the website --plus, the name on the site (Outreach Dashboard) is different from the name on-wiki (Programs & Events Dashboard). This is confusing, IMHO.

I suggest we consolidate an 'international' name for the tool --maybe just 'Dashboard'. What do you think?

Moreover, it'd be nice if we could come up with a logo for the tool. I guess we should wait for discussing the name of the tool before we do the logo.

Any thoughts on these issues? Thanks all. --Joalpe (talk) 03:15, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Joalpe I agree, I would like to change the name. "Dashboard" is better but maybe that name is too general.
I think that comparable tools for other media platforms include Tweetdeck, Hootsuite, and en:Sprinklr. There are lots of these tools and professional management of online communities is a major business sector. If we rename this, then I think that the name should reflect the various groups which use this tool:
  • Wikipedia community groups and chapters who are doing in-person peer to peer outreach
  • Expert partner institutions, such as in science, medicine, the arts, or museums, which are sharing their expertise on Wikipedia and using the tool to track the impact
  • Universities, which have student groups as new editors under professors who mostly are unfamiliar with Wikipedia editing
  • Researchers who set up instances of this tool without engaging with editors at all, but who want information on what Wikipedia editors do
The name "Dashboard works". I think that I prefer the term "wiki" somewhere in the name, like "WikiDashboard" or "WikiDash". Riffing off other familiar names, it could be "WikiDeck" or "WikiSuite". There are already tools called "WikiMetrics", but I think that the dashboard is a better use for that term than the current tool set called by that name.
Whatever name we choose, it should be accessible, and easy to say because lots of people will have to speak it outloud, and the words have to be easy to say in all languages because this tool already has multilingual support. Do you have other suggestions to consider? I agree with you about the logo. This project needs a logo because I can easily imagine hundreds of media professionals showing the logo in routine media presentations all organizations throughout the world, perpetually. Someday Wikipedia engagement will grow professionally in the same way that all universities, etc have staff investments in twitter, Facebook, blogging, and the rest, and the dashboard provides the metrics justification for putting stafftime in Wiki engagement. Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Refresh of the statistics[edit]

Hello there,

It's me again.

We began our contributive week here at UCL but the tool doesn't seem to take the articles into account. I don't know if there is a delay before the numbers are updated.

But here some articles were created and updated and it's not shown in the stats. It's just enough to take a look at the recent contributions of w:fr:AuCeCla. But there is no mention of those articles on the program page.

Thanks for the help Ogoletti (talk) 17:41, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, my program page on outreach is : https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/UCL/Venez_Contribuer and the stats I talk about are those at the top. Ogoletti (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
There is often a delay in refreshing the numbers. If you still don't see numbers that look accurate after 24 hours please let us know! Also, make sure your start and end dates/times are accurate just to be safe. Tighe Flanagan (WMF) (talk) 14:36, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi @TFlanagan-WMF:, if you take a look on the program page, you can read (in small on the right under the stats) : According to the last system update. Last update: 4 days ago. And it wasn't indeed updated since monday. I read here : Programs_&_Events_Dashboard/Using_the_Dashboard#Metrics_and_tracking that I had to wait 24h, that's why I asked. I found here : [1] and here : [2] that a '/manual_update' should work, but it didn't on my page... It should be doable though.... Any more info on this ? Thanks Ogoletti (talk) 08:34, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
@Ogoletti and TFlanagan-WMF: Hi. There seems to be a delay, indeed. My course page informs me no update has taken place in the last 4 days, though I know statistics should have changed as new content was produced. I have reported this through the "Report a problem" tab. --Joalpe (talk) 14:35, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
I experience the same problem too with lags of up to 1-2 days. I'm not sure what "last update" is supposed to mean, but it certainly doesn't mean "these are the up-to-date stats as at that time". The curious thing is that if you download an activity spreadsheet, it often does contain the more recent activity but this isn't reflected in the "headline numbers" on the dashboard. One of the problems with the dashboard is that the program participants know about it and they like to check it at the end of a session and they expect it to be up-to-date. They know that article histories and user contributions are always up-to-date so they don't quite understand why the dashboard (which after all is just an aggregation of users and articles) isn't. If we hosted dashboard on individual Wikipedias rather than Meta, could we get the dashboards to run closer to real-time? Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:49, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Article view data[edit]

Is it possible to annotate the article view data with the start date from when those views commenced being counted? This is an issue where the dashboard is being created after the program has commenced. For example, this is a dashboard I created for our 2017 1Lib1Ref. For some time, it didn't show any article views and I thought, oh well, I guess that just a limitation I have to be live with as it was set up months afterwards. But then I noticed that it had begun to track article views, but I would like to know "from when" as clearly it's not the normal "from the time first edited by a progam participant". Kerry Raymond (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

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How can I divide my students in sub-groups in a Wikis program ?[edit]

I have 198 students attending advanced reading and writing class. How can I group them in small task units so that my weekly reading and writing task will be finished as I expect?

Does not work[edit]

Dashboard does not work properly. We created here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres_latinoamericanas/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration_II 33 new articles in https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Mujeres_Latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia/InterWikiWomen_II_2018/home but the dashboard says only 21. It is wrong.--Jalu (talk) 01:36, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Jalu: Can you provide more details? Which articles are you expecting to see that aren't showing up?--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Sage (Wiki Ed). I already gave you the links with the list of articles. Here https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiproyecto:Mujeres_latinoamericanas/Inter_WikiWomen_Collaboration_II you see that we have created 33 articles, as I said, and here https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Mujeres_Latinoamericanas_en_Wikimedia/InterWikiWomen_II_2018/home you can see that the dashboard shows 21 articles created, many articles are missing, so the dashboard does not works well. All the articles have been created during the time of the dashboard, and all editors are in the dashboard. The account is very simple, 33 - 21 = 13. What else or which other detail do you need? Please tell me. Thanks in advance. --Jalu (talk) 02:07, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

I suppose this is because it is set to Article Scoped Program. This feature counts only edits (and article creations and so on) in articles that are (in the Dashboard) assigned to individual participants. Each participant is able to assign articles to themselves, facilitators are able to assign articles to every participant. As I can see, you have 22 articles assigned to individual participants. Out of those 22 articles, 21 were created and one was modified. This is just what the Dashboad says. If you assign more articles to your participants, the Dashboard will include them in its statistics. If you want all edits made by your participants, then it cannot be set as Article Scoped program (I'd suggest to not set any specific course type). As the course ended, if you decide to change the type, then you must press schedule data update button in order to get data updated (automatic updating is disabled for courses that already ended, as number of created articles usually doesn't change after a course ended). Is this more clear to you? Best, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 05:03, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Drafts are not counted as new articles when published[edit]

Hi, I was begi nning tp gather information on a campaign run in 2018 and I noticed that at least here (I did not check for the others) drafts published are not counted as new articles which is problemetic ti know how many new articles have been published. How can I get these figures? Kind regards, Nattes à chat

@Nattes à chat: Could you link a few articles that should have been counted but weren't? Thanks, Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

User renaming is not detected[edit]

On https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Goethe_Institut_Lyon/%C3%89ditathon_Erbst%C3%BCcke/students (where all users were added by myself, not with individual inscription), one user account has been renamed while editing (GhostrwriteuseGhostwriteuse). I had to manually remove the old username and add the new one, after having seen the name didn’t change while other changes (octets count, edit list) had been processed. — Ltrlg (talk),

campaign miscategorized -- how can I move it to Asian Month?[edit]

I made an error with my categorization. It should be WAM (Asian month). How can I move it from Miscellanea to Asian Month? Will this affect getting the event's totals into WAM stats overall?

thanks, CatonMA2 (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

@CatonMA2: You can change the course category by clicking Edit Details on the program page. However, I'm not seeing any campaigns for Wikimedia Asian Month. Are you sure that campaign has already been created? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 10:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia translation: cannot edit the page[edit]

Hi

When I try to edit a page in Wikipedia translation I receive the following message:

'A page with the title XXX exists in the target wiki. Consider giving the page a different title. This is an ongoing translation by USER. Please make sure you coordinate with the user who translated the current translation.'

I can't figure out why is this happening. Interestingly, it does not happen with every page. Can it be that the number of users that can simultaneously translate the same page for the same language pair is somehow restricted? I noticed that a similar question was already asked here but it was never answered. I hope I'll be more lucky.

I'd appreciate any help.

@AleksTr II: Could you clarify what you're attempting to translate? Also, you can sign your talk page posts with ~~~~ :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Who manages the outreach dashboard?[edit]

Is there a list of admins for this product? — xaosflux Talk 23:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Hi. What you are looking for is at Programs & Events Dashboard/Admins. --Joalpe (talk) 00:02, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
@Joalpe: thank you! — xaosflux Talk 00:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

af Writing competition dashboard not working[edit]

Hello, the Afrikaans Writing Competition Dashboard seems to have cleared its self and is no longer displaying any data on articles created, number of edits and other such metrics. I also cant seem to scheduled a data update either. Could someone please look into this for us or let us know if we have done anything wrong? Thanks, --Discott (talk) 12:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Hmm. The activity feed seems to be working correctly. It looks like the course title has an extra space at the end. I wondered if that was causing something to break in the overall stats so I changed it with the intention of changing it back. Unfortunately the Edit Details form trims extra whitespace, so I can't change it back. This means the URL has changed - it no longer has an underscore at the end (https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Wikimedia_ZA/Afrikaans_Writing_Competition). Doubly unfortunately, this didn't fix anything. @Sage (Wiki Ed): Do you know why the overall stats aren't updating here? Also, I filed an issue about the trailing whitespace problem. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Pinging @Discott:. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Discott, Samwalton9 (WMF): it's set with the 'Article Scoped Program' type, so it will only show stats for articles that are assigned or within a tracked category. If you want to track all edits to Afrikaans Wikipedia made by the participants, you should change the type to 'Generic Course'.--24.19.10.168 19:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Ah, good to know. I will change it back to 'Generic Course' then and see what happens. Thanks Samwalton9 (WMF).--Discott (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Introduction[edit]

Hello, I am Yakam Cressence, computer engineer and currently Outreachy intern contributing to wiki Foundation project. So glad to be part of this community.

Using the Dashboard for #1Lib1Ref[edit]

Hi everyone,
In Canada, we are doing a friendly competition for the #1Lib1Ref campaign. Since we have to register all edits of the participants to determine the winning institution, using the Dashboard seems to be the best option. But I have some reserves since it's not really possible to know what part of the data is dedicated to adding references. Words Added seems to be the best indicator to determine the winner, but it doesn't say where those words were added. For example, if a participant upload a ton of infos on wikidata, the Words Added numbers will be very high even if there were not a single reference added. Any tips or idea on how to use the Dashboard for that kind of competition? Lea-Kim (talk) 17:16, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Lea-Kim: - I love the idea of this competition! Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware the dashboard doesn't currently have any way to track the number of references added unfortunately. That's actually data that's missing more broadly, there isn't any direct log of references/links added on Wikimedia projects (though it's something we're working on as part of the Knowledge Integrity program at the WMF) so I'm not sure you'll find any tool that's capable of doing this. One solution might be to have participants use a specific hashtag when they make an edit which adds citations (like #1lib1refcite), and track those using the Hashtags tool, but obviously some manual work would be required to delve into each edit to count the number of individual citations added, if you wanted to get that granular. @Sage (Wiki Ed): Do you have any thoughts on this? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 11:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks for the swift answer @Samwalton9: - Using the specific hashtags is what we will do this year again. It's a lot more work, but last year it kind of worked. Of course, if in any way it was possible, one day, to track added references, this would be a game changer. With "only" 13 institutions participating this year it's manageable, but if we have 50 next year, it's going to be almost impossible to use the hashtags. --Lea-Kim (talk) 13:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
It's a data stream so many people would find useful - we're really hoping to have it before next year's event! Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:07, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Lea-Kim, Samwalton9 (WMF): Hmm... I think we actually could come up with an 80% solution to counting refs added pretty easily. The Dashboard already fetches ORES data for each revision, and that data includes the number of ref tags (example). So we could pretty easily calculate the number of refs added to an article, with the caveat that it would also include references added by other people in between the tracked edits. I'll add an issue for it; that might make a nice project for a Google Summer of Code / Outreachy intern.--Sage (Wiki Ed) 18:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Children's Centre[edit]

Please what is the enrollment key for Children's Centre. I created the program two days ago but forget to save the enrollment key link to share with members.

If you log in on the Dashboard, you'll be able to see the passcode for your program, in the 'Details' section of the Home tab.--Ragesoss (talk) 18:17, 16 January 2019 (UTC)