Talk:Requests for comment/Copy editors' tab

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With respect to your two suggestions, I believe we need both. The filter by markup tab would be extremely useful in dealing with complicated articles, but only to relatively advanced editors. For example, using the show references tab to edit a reference would presumably include the text of everything within the <ref> </ref> tags, but would not show the place in the article. For the sort of edit that was the original problem, one single tab: copyedit article text , would seem better -- and even so it couldn't be just the plaintext, but would need section headings for navigation. I wonder if it would be technically feasible to select text, and then have a function to copyedit the selected portion? DGG 20:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to the reference stuff, what I had meant that it would not just show the references, but the references in addition to the article content, and any other selected markups. But upon second thought, I think that maybe if there was a content (on/off), then that would be useful for editors who just wanted to clean up, say references, like making them all in the same format. By choosing references, and nothing else (assuming there was a content checkbox, it would just show the references and thus make it easier to edit just that. Regarding the second point you made, I think that would be great to simply highlight a portion of text you wish to edit and have only that show up within the edit box. - Theornamentalist 21:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clearly both ways of editing the reference portion would be useful--and this shows the complexities of defining properly a field-selective or format-selective edit. That's why I like your original simple proposal as a 1st step DGG 04:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm surprised that nothing like this has been implemented yet; seeing that there have been discussions of this and an interest. I wonder though.. I have always seen the unique mark up as being some sort of (minimal) hazing attribute, among others, that although simple, may seem difficult to the non-internet generation. Yea, it shows that in order to contribute you have to dedicate enough time to properly learn it, but I imagine that older generations, or people with limited computer access have disadvantages to this process. - Theornamentalist 04:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems the primary issue is the lack of a WYSIWYG editor for Wikipedia. Why not simply enable such an editor by default, or create the tab locally where it calls this editor? The other solution would be to write a MediaWiki extension, and I wonder if the developers might suggest "Hey, good idea! Tell us when you're done writing it so we can install the thing" instead. Kylu 20:26, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]