Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team/Archive 1

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Requests for Bloglines "inactivewikipedias" maintenance

December 2005

TIA, --Zigger 02:58, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

January 2007

Since those are not inactive, thanks in advance, best regards --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 19:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, please can someone help me and tell me how this site can be reached? Many thanks in advance, best regards --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 18:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Since I am ignored here I contacted Bloglines. --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 09:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Spacebirdy, it's very disappointing to see that no one has answered this since Jan 15th. I checked the history of the SWMT page (link) and it looks like the Bloglines account belongs to User:Node ue. You should try asking him by email or on his talk page, that the list needs to be updated. --Az1568 20:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hello Az1568, thank You for Your answer, I sent him an Email, best regards --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 08:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Spamming bot

Many small projects of Wikimedia are being spammed with bots. If we don´t do something more effective, the bot will become many projects in rubbish bins. This bot is including links to the same websites all the time, could not a bot revert this editions by detecting automatically all the links in Wikimedia projects to this websites? Another possibility would be to enable administrator power in small wikis to those participating in this cleaning task. --Javier Carro 13:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

The spam blacklist does that. Archer7 20:29, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

IRC

Why can't we just have an IRC channel with bots reporting the recent changes of small wikis? That way people can just have it in the background and immediately be alerted to changes and stop spam etc. Archer7 20:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

We do have such a bot (or a cluster of bots) now. See SWMT/IRC. Cheers, Tangotango 21:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Just a suggestion to avoid difficult situations

i would suggest that everybody who is involved in this project and who edits pages in different projects shlould do 2 things:

  1. he should either notify his action in the summary of the edit od - better - if he logs in, so he should write it there
  2. he should be also listed somewhere as a member of this project

I support this project, but if there is a vandal edit and one minute later an absolutely unknown user writes there delete nonsence, so it would be not the first time that both are the same vandal. I had some of this sort several times. If I see a notice of your colleague, so it must be absolutely clear for who it is. And, please, tell your colleagues that such situations can happen, not everybody seems to understand this. Good luck in your pretty good work, -jkb- 18:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll remember to but a little (swmt) at the end of my summaries, and I'm trying to register everywhere I can. ST47 18:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I usually register or log in before reverting, but it seems to me the good behaviour in this kind of situation is to assume good faith ; if you see another IP or an unknown user reverting a vandal, then I don't see any good reason to suspect him of doing anything bad. Sometimes the vandal is so fast that we don't have the time to register or log in. All we do is trying to help little-watched wikis. guillom 19:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

ru.wikibooks: small yet secure

You can save your time monitoring http://ru.wikibooks.org : even if we are small by some criterion, I am keeping an eye on our wiki all the time; without difficulty so far. Ramir 04:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your message, Ramir. Don't worry about taking up our time--the bots are doing all the monitoring, and we only notice that we're monitoring a wiki if there's been vandalism there. :) Plus, more importantly, we tend to notice vandals and spammers hitting a large number of wikis, and it's easier to spot them, the more wikis we're monitoring. And, finally, being monitored by the SWMT doesn't mean that your wiki is "small" as in "insignificant"; please see Small Wiki Monitoring Team#Definition_of_.22small.22 for more information on this. Cheers, Tangotango 12:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

How to monitor...

... for me, the most effective way of monitoring a small wiki is requesting temporary adminship and removing spam immediately instead of tagging it and hoping that eventually some admin/steward will come along and do the job.

I thought that Multilingual speedy deletions was the place, where I should report excessive spam, so that a steward will eventually notice and delete the spam. However, I found that my reports went largely unnoticed. Therefore I lated started nagging a steward personally, when I had identified and tagged lots of spam in a smaller wiki. Finally I resorted to what I wrote above.

I would therefore suggest, that each member of the team request temp-adminship for, say, five of those wikis which have no or no active sysop. Checking Special:Recentchanges for five small wikis daily is not too much of an effort. I've been doing this for four wikis during the last few days, and it may consume 10 minutes daily. Most wikis won't have any changes at all and one or two will have been spammed. Deleting five or six spam pages and blocking one or two vandals is a matter of two minutes or less.

What I have in mind are those wikis, which are literally dead and have zero or near zero content. Examples are kr:, ve:, ts:, hz:, cho:.

After all, I'd personally rather have those extreme cases shut down or locked. But for the time being, this seems like a workable, pragmatic solution to me. --Johannes Rohr 16:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that doesn't sound bad. Of course, it's only a solution for the smallest wikis without local sysops (cf. also my proposal on Talk:Multilingual speedy deletions). I already have sysopship on iu.wp and I would not see a problem to take some more wikis under my special observation. --Thogo (talk) 16:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Mass Interwiki Spam!!

An Indian nationalist has spammed the following wikis with the Topic "India":

ak, ab, av, gn, ay, bm, bh, bi, bo, cv, cho, ny, sn, tum, cho, za, nv, ny, dz, mh, ee, ki, ha, ho, iu, xh, zu, ie, xal, rn, kj, kv, lo, mus, my, fj, cr, ce, or , pih, pi, pap, sg, st, ss, ti, chy, tw, bug, vo, wo.

--153.111.60.15 21:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, thank you very much for the list, but please note that not all of these articles are from the spammer. The article on iu.wp for example was created in 2005 by the bureaucrat the wiki. --Thogo (talk) 22:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Or look, for instance, at the article on bh.wp: w:bh:भारत. That doesn't look like spam, does it? ;o) --Thogo (talk) 22:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
ok, all others seem to be correctly tagged with a speedy delete template. --Thogo (talk) 22:54, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Inactive Wikis list

Hello there, as told here is.wiktionary and also af.wiktionary are not inactive. I am trying to do as much publicity as I can and making is.wikt more attractive. Listing is.wikt on an "inactive Wiki" list is IMHO a anti-publicity and a disrespect of all our work there. Can the one being responsible for this list please remove the two mentioned wiktionaries or at least be so polite to respond.

Many thanks in advance, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 11:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

using cascading protection

Just a hint to all those with admin access to some of the small wikis: The newly introduced cascading page protection is quite a nifty feature to prevent vandal articles from being created.

E.g. on kr: I have now created kr:Wikipedia:Blocked titles, set cascading protection and included kr:W/w/index.php as a template (as {{:[PAGENAME]}}. This way, kr:W/w/index.php is protected, even if it does not exist. I.e. if it does not exist, as it has been deleted, it cannot be recreated without admin permissions. --Johannes Rohr 13:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Useful posting, didn't realise it worked that way - thanks --Herby talk thyme 13:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind help

Thank you for the help at os.wiki. Though I try to watch it often, you were faster to come and see the spam. You are doing a very useful work. - Slavik IVANOV 01:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

On behalf of all the members of SWMT, your welcome:) --James, La gloria è a dio 01:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

vandal war at Choctaw Wikipedia

Hi there,

a while ago I took up temp adminship i.a. at the Choctaw wikipedia, which was rife with spam and vandalism. Since then, the general amount of vandalism is, well, not particularly high. At the same time I must have managed to seriously annoy one particular vandal. Starting two months or so, he has been vandalising my user pages, creating accounts which are meant to offend me, has engaged in cross-wiki vandalism etc.

I'm just totally surprised at his/her stubbornness. Has anyone else made similar experience before? Would anyone else like to take over cho:? --Johannes Rohr 07:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll help.. it would be good if there was more than one of us doing the cleaning.. --Versageek 07:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Couple more

These are basically dead I think Kahuroa 11:18, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Backlogs

Hey everyone. I believe my personal kill-time project, User:ReyBrujo/Dump statistics, to be mature enough to announce it here. Basically I download database dumps, process them, and generate four lists: articles with many external links, the most linked external links, very probable spam pages, and probable spam pages. Then I update my meta page to include information from the latest dumps. Many of the pages I catch and tag for speedy deletion are the ones with nonsense names (like W/index.php and similar). However, I would like some help with some trivial tasks (like checking whether there is a backlog in the wiki, tag the pages for speedy deletion, and request temporary adminship to handle the backlogs). If anyone have enough free time, feel free to check the different wikis and determine whether there is an active administrator in there to handle the backlogs. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 04:27, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Monitoring via IRC

Hi there, I peaked into irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikimedia-swmt I must confess that I find its output extremely confusing.

Couldn't we have an alternative irc channel which monitors just the really small wikis? I cannot see the necessity for monitoring, say, Russian, Hungarian, Turkish, Czech, Belorussian or Russian wikis. These wikis have their own communities, there are plenty of speakers with internet access. I really don't think, monitoring them should be the task of this group here. For me, it is just way to much.

Personally I am monitoring some really small wikis (hz:, ts:, ng:, om:, chy:, cho:, kv:, ve:, ts:) which do not have local admins and no community. This is a task which does not consume more than the app. 15 min/day that I can spare for this.

While IRC is a great tool for this task, I strongly feel that the definition of "small" as "less than 10.000 articles" is way too inclusive. If others are fine with the situation as it is, I will stop complaining here, but else, I wonder how much of an effort it would be to offer one or two alternative IRC channels for really small wikis, e.g.

  1. for wikis with less than 1,000 articles and
  2. for wikis without a local admin or with only two or three admins?

Looking forward to your comments, --Johannes Rohr 11:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

This is also my opinion. Pages reported on IRC to Multilingual speedy deletions/Bot-reported are there for weeks and no local sysop exist who could delete them (and if you got temporary sysop access: if it's over, there's spam again you report via Dellie etc.) MF-Warburg(de) 09:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I'd like to thank this team for helping us out on the Simple English Wikibooks. There have been two or three members of this team that have assisted in reverting vandalism. So thanks to you all! --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 22:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

new usergroup

I dont' know where to propose such a thing, so I do it here: Want do you think of a new usergroup, eg called "vandlfighter" which has the rights delete, rollback and protect? Some trusted users could get it on small wikis. I think this would be a good idea because the Multilingual speedy deletions/Bot-reported are very very full and most of these wikis dont have sysops, so someone always must request admin rights everytime there occurs spam. MF-Warburg(de) 17:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The good news is, we have this group already. It's called "administrators". --Johannes Rohr 19:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I know. But admins have even more rights. MF-Warburg(de) 19:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes, in particular the right to block users, which is also indispensable for counter vandalism action. What else? --Johannes Rohr 19:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Nothing? MF-Warburg(de) 20:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

small Wikiquote

Hey, would you like to take care of Malay Wikiquote too? It was active once, but now dormant. --Aphaia 14:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

It's already here:
04:49:22 <+anaconda> SWMTBot bleep ml.wikiquote
04:49:23 <+SWMTBot> Bleeped. Please wait for a reply.
04:49:24 * SWMTBot3 has ml.wikiquote, anaconda :D
--.anaconda 02:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Remove Dutch Wikibooks

Please remove dutch Wikibooks from the list. We are able to handle our own affairs. Kind regards Londenp 13:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

You are a small wikimedia project with just a few admin actions and not much more contributions per day. Is there a consensus to ignore help from other contributors? Or to scare users away? Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 13:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
We don't consider us small (this is what I take as an insult) and the community is active, besides there are more then enough active administrators. We never had a problem with huge vandalism. Please concentrate your energy to projects which need it, which excludes dutch Wikibooks (and Wikiquote). Londenp 20:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
DerHexer, I think londenp is right, nlwikibooks is not what i'd call a small wiki. It has sufficient articles, a thorough regulations structure, a sysops mailinglist and a bunch of sysops checking the RC on a daily basis. If you have any specific questions, please drop by in the #wikibooks-nl channel on freenode. Although not as active as the wiki, you may find me or londenp there. Effeietsanders 20:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
ps: let it be clear that i really value your project, and that as a steward, I often see how much it helps us out. But let me put it this way: maybe it's better to focus on the wiki's which need more help :) Effeietsanders 21:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't complain about the request here but the way the template was deleted. … I wanted to help out a bit but my help was deleted. … Of course there is not so much vandalism on your wiki but why don't you want people to watch it? Confused, —DerHexer (Talk) 12:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually, we watch all the wiki's that we can and it actually help the wiki in many ways. There are many wiki's left dormant which people don't know exists, and many a times when you find that wiki through the RC feeds, you realized that most if not all the edits in the recent months to the wiki has been either spam or vandalism. I understand why you don't want your wiki to be watched by all those glaring eyes, but we do it for the betterment of the wikicommunity and to protect all those wiki's that we can from vandalism and spam, which in recent months has become a problem and the irony is that there is nearly 80 small wiki's that aren't being watched by the bots and till the bots are at 100% monitoring rate, most spam/vandalisms go by us. Most admins don't realize that they are dealing with spambots, so thats why those monitoring the feeds tries to help by adding the {{delete|Spam}} tag to the page too tell the local admins that this is a spam page that should be deleted and the IP banned and deleting those useful templates doesn't help much. As Effeietsanders mentioned, since your wiki is big (in size and comparison), we might rethink about monitoring it, but let me remind you, we also monitor English wikibook, which is also one of the biggest wikimedia project and its a tedious task but people associated with the SWMT really enjoy it...--Cometstyles 13:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
There are certainly issue of cross wiki misunderstanding. Currently there as/are vandal bot(s) operating from Open proxies for example. I'm clearing maybe 3/4 an hour at present across wikis but even en wp admins are not sure how to deal with this (and other wikis are merely reverting/warning).
The name "small wiki" is really very misleading. I would look on this group as being "vandal specialists" and very good at it. They will see issues developing that one admin on a wiki with less traffic would be unaware of. This has been the case with teh vandal bot on en wb & en wq (neither of which are particularly "small" wikis). Maybe the name should be changes - must my 0.02 & appreciating what is done by this group --Herby talk thyme 13:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Inter wiki vandalism monitoring team aut idem? —DerHexer (Talk) 14:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, small wiki is insulting for those who put a lot of effort in those wiki's. Besides on NL-Wikibooks there is a system where we can flag all anonymous changes as controlled (a feature which every wiki should have in my opinion). In that way we see all vandalism. My action of deleting of the template is somewhat overdone, but we do that normally for all English (or German, or non-Dutch) templates. I really think that we have enough control ourselves. The help from the SWMT can be misleading, because of the language you will not be able to judge vandalism for 100%, which one who can speak the Dutch language does. Therefore: thanks for your offer to help, but it is an unsolicited offer and unneeded. Londenp 21:53, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, spambots ignore the fact that it's a Dutch Wikimedia project and "aaaaaaaaaddddddddsffff" or "f*ck" mean all over the world the same. … If I don't understand an edit it would never cross my mind to change something! Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 19:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, Herbythyme has an excellent point. We don't actually monitor small wiki's bit actually monitor all those other wiki's that either has a minimum number of editors or is not on the grand scale of other wikimedia projects such as the English Wikipedia, The name of the group is misleading and I suppose it should be renamed to "Other Wiki Monitoring Team" keeping in mind that there are wikipedia's in other languages which might be small in comparison to its elder sisters, but at the same time may be at par with them in terms of content and information..--Cometstyles 19:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Of course I have a good point:) I do think the name is misleading - cross wiki vandalism is a real issue. "Real editors" are great but so are "real vandal fighters" - I've never really understood en wp preoccupation with having to write good articles to be able to get the tools to deal with vandals. Watching en wq today I saw Britney Spears "VfD" "her" own page.... Then "she" arrived here - my ability to deal with it was greater because I had the extra knowledge. Something about cross wiki **** team (I actually don't really like the word vandal), cheers --Herby talk thyme 20:04, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Removing Dutch Wikibooks from the list of monitored 'small' wikis will not mean that 'outsiders' can't come by and find the spam or vandalism before any of the more established users. Most of the time I am not in the IRC channels watching the monitoring bots. When I visit a wiki and see a spambot I will search to see if the same IP has made edits in other wikis too, and now and then that will take me to en.wikipedia and other 'large' wikis, where I tag pages for deletion or revert edits which are obvious vandalism or spambot crap.
When I look at the recent changes in nl.wikibooks it seems to me that there regularly isn't much activity during the hours that are night in Western Europe, and it seems likely that some hours most nights there isn't anyone there that can see or stop an attack from for instance a wide awake move vandal situated on a different continent. If the wiki is monitored by the swmt it will increase the chance for vandal attacks beeing discovered and blocked sooner. --Jorunn 23:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
That is right, not much activity in the night is a fact for most Wikimedia projects. That does not mean it is not monitored; just someone not editing, does not mean there is no monitoring. Anyhow spambots would also hurt many wiki's during the day, so monitoring for spambots is useful.
Please change your name, where "small" or "other" wiki monitoring team is not good. cross wiki monitoring team I would prefer.Londenp 21:48, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Incubator

Please remove Wikimedia Incubator from the list. There is enough activity and there are enough admins. If you look to the number of articles to add a wiki or not, then you'll have an incorrect view of Incubator, because when a new wiki is started, we delete a lot of pages. That's why the number of pages is always low, it will never be high. So please remove Incubator, thank you, SPQRobin 13:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

I support this since I am Incubator bureaucrat. --MF-Warburg(de) 13:06, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Limburgish Wiktionary

Please remove the Limburgish Wiktionary from the list. I'm administrator there and I check recent changes three times each day. It's active enough to monitor itself. --OosWesThoesBes 13:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I have written a basic python script (since I haven't heard of one)for undoing (i.e. revert, move, and delete or report for deletion) all of the recent contributions (as seen from the api.php) of a user. It is still in a rough from, but it may be useful for members of the SWMT. Hillgentleman 03:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Great, I hope I can use it as soon as a find out what to do with it :P ..--Cometstyles 04:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

SWMT

The SWMT is now a member of the Counter-vandalism Network so our new channel has moved from #wikimedia-swmtconnect to #cvn-swconnect so for all those not sure about which channel to join, this is the link above..--Cometstyles 04:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism in Akan WP

Dear monitors, it seems to me that an IP is vandalizing in the Akan WP (example). He adds "Learn English!!" to the pages.--Ziko-W 19:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I've tagged one page for deletion and reverted another edit, but most has been caught I believe. Still might need a block, though. EVula // talk // // 20:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your concern and quick reaction.--Ziko-W 11:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

External links placement

We are currently trying to write a 'policy' about unwanted cross-wiki external links placement. Suggestions etc. are welcomed here: External links policy.

Do we have something similar for vandalism, by the way? --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 09:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Certainly worth both groups working together where applicable. On list discussion of Meta namespaces - maybe we could have one "Control of ****:" :) --Herby talk thyme 09:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Maintenance: might be more diplomatic :D  – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 21:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
OK - mildly more serious. The Meta list has had some comments about creating some namespaces for Meta to aid clarity & organisation. Historical: was suggested and sounds good - would Maintenance: be worth considering for such issues as here & the BL or any other thoughts? --Herby talk thyme 07:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, Maintenance would be golden.  – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 21:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Remove mediawiki.org

Could mediawiki.org be removed? People got mad at me for deleting vandalism pages there. - Andre Engels 10:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

They aren't exactly short of admins there: list. Only in an emergency would it be a good idea to use admin tools on a project like that. Majorly talk 13:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
But if they can do it themselves, then why put them under SWMT? - Andre Engels 13:41, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmm. Half of them there are inactive or semi-active (myself included), so the number of admins on that list is somewhat deceptive. --Anonymous DissidentTalk 13:42, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
The reason we have certain wikis there (we have meta there too btw.) is because of autoblacklist and emergency situations mainly. Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 13:44, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
No need to remove it as I already explained on IRC since that wiki usually is the first to be hit by spambots so its easier to keep an eye on..--Cometstyles 13:45, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that was the reason why I originally added it. If theirs something that requires an admin we can usually find one pretty easily. (You could just poke Comets or me ;) ) --Az1568 14:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Manual for new and small Wikipedias

Hello, at Meta there are pages created to help new and small Wikipedias: Manual and Basic Wikipedia and help pages. You are welcome to have a look and comment. Kind regards --Ziko-W 23:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

The meatpuppeting attack to the LMO wikipedia

Only today I discover this monitoring team. I know that the word "meatpuppet" should be used with great care ([1]), so the word "meatpuppet" is used according the main definition given in the page ([2]):

Editors of the online encyclopedia Wikipedia use "meat puppet" to deprecate contributions from a new community member if the new member was (allegedly) recruited by an existing member only to back up the recruiting member's position.


It could be interesting to have a look at the RFC Requests_for_comments/The_meatpuppeting_attack_to_the_LMO_wikipedia_-_Corrective_actions_requested.

Best regard,

Yattagat 19:14, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

nl-language

If there is need for a sysop on a small nl-project, I am almost every day online on the projects and chat (Romaine), and can be reached fastly by my nl-Wikipedia-talkpage. Greetings - Romaine 14:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks

Tamil Wikinews

Hello, For the last two days, Tamil wikinews has been targeted by vandalism by one user (Gaby). He has removed the contents of almost 50% of the articles yesterday. Since I am the only admin there, I managed to recover them and blocked his IP. He again targeted the same today from another IP address. Can you please have an eye on Tamil wikinews, as we have very few active users, and only one admin. Thanks for the help.--Kanags 02:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Help Remove broken input template from Dzonkha and Tibetan Wikipedias

Help! Can someone remove the broken input script template Eukesh installed on the Dzongkha Wikipedia and the Tibetan Wikipedia quite some time ago? - I'm posting this request here as I don't know who has admin rights on those two small wikis.

Unfortunately I got no response from Eukesh who (maybe thinking it would be helpful) put this script on the Dzongkha and Tibetan Wikipedias which is supposed to allow one to type Tibetan or Dzongkha by using translitteration - however the script (based on one for Indic languages) was obviously written by someone who understood little about Tibetan & Dzongkha translitteration or the model used for encoding Tibetan in the Unicode standard - so the script is in fact worse than useless for typing Tibetan and Dzongkha. The script is on by default and has to be manually turned off via a checkbox or the escape key with each and every edit. This is bad enough, but the template also affects input in the Search /Go To box in the left hand column making that useless as well. There is no obvious way to turn it off there, and without that search box being functional a Wikipedia is totally crippled. (Then people complain that no one is using Dzongkha and Tibetan Wikipedias and want to delete them - this could be one of the main reasons for that sad state of affairs.)

I have suggested to Eukesh that he correct the script - here - but that hasn't happened; I have also asked him several times to remove it - here, here, here and here - but that hasn't happened either. I would remove the script myself, but don't know how to - and anyway probably don't have sufficient rights. Is someone here able to help or know who I should contact? I raised this issue at the English Wikipedia Help Desk - but they say they acan only deal with issues affecting English Wikipedia. There is obviously no Help Desk or Village Pump for Tibetan or Dzongkha Wikipedias - in fact I am one of the only active contributors there and it is not obvious who has admin privilidges.

To be able to install such a script Eukesh himself obviously has or had something like admin or sysop privileges on the Dzongkha and Tibetan Wikipedias but he is not responding. The fact that he installed such a script template without knowing those languages or the translitteration used for them; and has the script turned on by default - when even if it did work it should only be an option (as it grabs and modifies user input); and that he has not responded when I have informed him of the problems, is IMO an abuse of such priviliges. Obviously no Tibetan or Bhutanese user is going to use Dzongkha and Tibetan Wikipedias if they cannot use the search function or easily edit pages due to the presence of this script. I am currently trying to encourage high school students in Bhutan to contribute to the Dzongkha Wikipedia but unless this Translit termplate script is removed or fixed this is going to be very difficult.

Tibetan and Dzongkha users have a Tibetan or Dzongkha IME installed on their systems - this script interferes with those input methods. Western Tibetan scholars use Wylie translitteration which is very different from the translitteration system Eukesh has attempted to implement with this template - though even that doesn;t work. Try to type the word སྒྲུབ་བརྒྱུད་ (sgrub brgyud) with this inkey turned on - you wind up with the total nonsense སགརུབ བརགཡུད not སྒྲུབ་བརྒྱུད་. No wonder no one is using Tibetan or Dzongkha Wikipedias. Can someone with admin privelidges there please remove this inkey template. CFynn 16:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I've disabled the scripts on both wikis as a temporary measure.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 00:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for trying. This doesn't seem to have worked - the script is not yet removed. There is still the check-box and message: "Test - check box to write in Dzonkha [sic] (test phase); use Esc to switch" at the top when I edit pages in the Dzongkha Wikipedia. The template is very much active and still has to turned off with each edit! Same thing on the Tibetan Wikipedia. The person who wrote the script informs me he applied for the necessary privileges to remove the script, but received no response. So I'm still looking for a way to get this fixed.
dz:User:CFynn CFynn 08:50, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

why has somebody here vandalized the yi:wiki?

see here [3] somebody with the name Groov Dog has done vandalism by us i need somebody here to deal with him and restrain him thanks--Chaim Shel 15:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Tools

What tools are useful for SWMT members? Please list them at SWMT/Tools. --Erwin 14:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - Diolch

Thanks for your help today on the Welsh Wicipedia. Diolch. Llywelyn2000 22:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Need to be voiced

Can someone voice me in the IRC channel? I'd like to be able to put cross-wiki and persistent vandals on the blacklist, for example this morning 84.142.126.230. Regards, Woudloper 08:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

You'll need to register your nick before we can do so. At least you weren't identified to NickServ just now, so I'm guessing you haven't registered yet. (I guess you're talking about #cvn-sw, right?) --Erwin 09:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I've been registered since a year or two, for all I know. When I try to register again (with the same user name/email), I get the message: You are already logged in as Woudloper. Woudloper 10:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
According to ChanServ you're already voiced at #cvn-sw actually. Could you try again? If it doesn't work, it'll probably be easiest to just ask on IRC. I'm sure there are always some people around who can help you and it'll be easier to see what's going on then. --Erwin 18:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
It's solved. Thanks. Woudloper 06:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)