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Broken regex

There's an extra close-paren in .*\bon.?line ((tv )?coverage|free)) <autoconfirmed> Anomie (talk) 14:38, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: ^^ —MarcoAurelio (talk) 23:25, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:27, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
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=

Hello, please add = character to the newaccount blacklist. This character uses in templates for arguments, and users with it can have a technical problems. Iniquity (talk) 15:03, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Such a request should only be made by the wikis with their eyes wide open. I also think that if an equals sign is that problematic that there is scope to submit a phabricator ticket to get = added to the banned character list for usernames.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:09, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
by the wikis with their eyes wide open, can you clarify this procedure? Iniquity (talk) 16:47, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Technical problems caused by a character use in usernames is a coding issue, not a policy issue. If such changes are to be made then it should be in places where the community can discuss and address holistically. Such a decision is not best taken place here at meta at a page that is not high traffic or high vision and ultimately is just a bandage on a larger problem; and one where one individual makes a request filled by another person.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
We found this problem in Russian Wikipedia, and wanted to add this rule in local Title blacklist, but then came to a decision about global block. Examples:
{{ping|Iniquity=}} -> Error in Template:Reply to: Username not given.
Iniquity (talk) 10:38, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
I am not arguing that there is not a difficulty with equal signs in usernames, I am arguing where the solution should be undertaken. This as a design issue, not an issue resolved through pumping things into the blacklist.

fwiw have you tried somethign like {{ping|Iniquity{{=}}}}? I would think that numbers of the unicode alternatives would work too.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:15, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

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Pseudo; follow-up to Lomita

(conversation moved in special:permalink/17728391)
Bonjour, suite à [1], pourriez vous faire quelque chose, ce jour, deux autres comptes crées Utilisateur:LIomita et Utilisateur:Iomita - Thanks a lot --Lomita (talk) 11:28, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

@Lomita: I have added the antispoof setting to the the blacklist for your regex, it may help a little. Please continue to get back to this page with examples of workarounds that the user undertakes.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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Blacklist removal request

I request the total removal from the blacklist of the following titles: *Giovanni Prinzi *Giuseppe Prinzi

Because, inserteds without any basis for vandalism, it is obviously an error.

Greetings! 151.47.86.103 00:44, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Declined Declined We have plenty of basis for the additions, it is not an error.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:54, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
@Vituzzu: to note.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: The motivation lies in the fact that the titles could coincide with encyclopedic people,now or in the future, keeping the names blacklisted pages can never be created by users in the future.

Greetings! --151.47.86.103 01:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

And there you go, that is the result of people "spamming" the wikis with non-notable people. We try to stop it by discussion, and escalating measures and some people just keep adding the bios. [There are numbers of names like this on the blacklist and/or in abuse filters for similar situations.] People will now have to go to the individual wikis to ask for an exemption. Truly sad that we have to resort to such crude measures, however, that we will do to protect the integrity of the product.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:53, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: I understand, but the vandal action with these names has been interrupted, this is injustice, it is not right.

This treatment is exaggerated, there are much heavier spammers that are not on the black list. If you do not remove Giovanni Prinzi and Giuseppe Prinzi from the list, we will carry on a legal case for the fact --151.47.43.18 11:07, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Let us take a step back. Do you have a declaration of interest to express here? Has it been your editing, or editing by people associated with you, that has resulted in these titles being blacklisted? Please define your interest in this matter, what you are looking to achieve and we can give advice on how to proceed.

With regard to what is right. It is not right that volunteer administrators need to clean up after spammers, clean up after abusers, clean up and respond to people who edit outside of the criteria and flout the community rules. The block was added as a response to the abuse to prevent further abuse, it does not stop any wiki from making an eyes wide open decision to have or to manage such articles.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I was late in commenting, these IPs are Giovanni Prinzi himself, who soon turned into a crosswiki lta. --Vituzzu (talk) 11:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
If you do not remove these titles from the list by this year, I will be forced to take legal action, along with my collaborators--151.47.43.18 11:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Ma 'sta farsa quanto hai ancora intenzione di tirarla avanti Giovanni? C'hai vent'anni dannazione, non sei un bambino e pure continui a farlo! --Vituzzu (talk) 11:45, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Well done mate. On threat of legal action, we shut up shop on conversations. Good luck with your life.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:09, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
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Prevent SQL injection attempts

.*DROP ((DATABASE )?TABLE|DATABASE( TABLE)?).*

I managed to create this on testwiki (nothing happened). Why isn't this blacklisted already? Lojbanist (talk) 02:22, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Please file a report on phabricator:, but i cannot reproduce the issue. You cannot create a page as page name ".*DROP ((DATABASE )?TABLE|DATABASE( TABLE)?).*". MediaWiki has built in sql injection protections.--Steinsplitter (talk) 12:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
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José Rafael Cordero Sánchez

Further to Special:Permalink/16580450#Jos.C3.A9 Rafael Cordero S.C3.A1nchez: he's at it again, now in his 7th year, and has successfully created the autobios ca:José Cordero and fr:José Cordero. Can you tweak the regex or the filter? There's a slight risk of minor collateral damage if anyone wants to create a translation of the article es:José Cordero about a deceased Equatorian politician. Would a filter that blocks non-autoconfirmed do the job? LTA file FYI: nl:Wikipedia:Checklijst langdurig structureel vandalisme/Josercs1. Sam Sailor 02:23, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:08, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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보민

@-revi: This addition needs .* added to the beginning. — JJMC89(T·C) 21:59, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

That’s intentional, just trying to block starting with that string. — regards, Revi 22:28, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
@-revi: 보민.* <newaccountonly> won't do anything, since usernames are matched against User:username. See mw:Extension:TitleBlacklist#Conceptual overview. — JJMC89(T·C) 16:07, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
changed. — regards, Revi 16:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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special:diff/17853347

Can something be blacklisted like this? --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 20:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

yes, though it is fairly easy to start a modified pattern with only a little inconvenience. Generally stewards will blacklist problematic usernames, and without going via this talk page.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:43, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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支那人

Phrase commonly used by an LTA. Also please add Xi jinping's Chinese name from account creation, specially 習近平 and 习近平 --Artix Kreige (Message Wall) 00:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Billinghurst --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 18:47, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
As usual, these requests would be better to come from local administrators who are managing these situations. It is too hard for a non-speaker to know the consequences of such additions, and the shared accountability of both local language and meta administrators is preferable.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:22, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I should have said New account only. --Artix Kreiger (Message Wall) 23:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Doesn't change my PoV on additions that I make.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:36, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

.*(prinzi|giuseppe).*(giuseppe|prinzi).*

Due to this discussion on Commons I suggest narrowing the filter to

.*giuseppe.*prinzi.*

and

.*prinzi.*giuseppe.*

Ankry (talk) 09:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vituzzu: the respective filter request came from itWP. Do you know anything? Could we make this newaccount only here at meta? If you believe that it still needs to cover the main ns, does that need to be at all wikis or could that bit be specific to itWP?  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:34, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Some context would be useful. If this was a vandal problem, it may have been transient and safe to remove. -- (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: it's a crosswiki issue: a mix of spam, trolling and hoaxes, do you remember that Italian IP obsessively asking for these removals some weeks ago? It was Giovanni himself.
@Fæ: this is still going on.
(Both of you, get ready to be stalked by him!)
I eventually applied Ankry's solution if some further side effect will arise escaping with \b could do the trick.
--Vituzzu (talk) 19:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing it. Stalkers probably find me boring. -- (talk) 19:59, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
GP is the most boring dude I've ever met here ^^ --Vituzzu (talk) 20:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
@Vituzzu: I am aware of the problem. I prefer to ask open questions on this page so changes are contextual, informative, and addressed by those with good knowledge rather than peripherally, wherever possible. Comments or refs in the page can be useful.

The central wildcards make for a pretty big regex, I would have thought that we could have been a little more compact, maybe something like .{0,20} if we know that the words are within reasonable proximity.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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Commons:Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#Upload_wizard_filther_for_(wrong)_filename_abuse

Please have a look at this issue with the word "Giovanni" used twice in filenames. The problem should be here in media-wiki. Thank you --Sailko (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Vituzzu, sembra che abbia a che fare con questo edit. Si può annullare o trovare un'altra forma di blocco? Sembra che blocchi qualsiasi filename che abbia due volte la parola Giuseppe o Giovanni nei titoli. Mi sembra che i problemi superino i benefici, visto che sono già il secondo a fare un report. Grazie --Sailko (talk) 10:48, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Proviamo. --Vituzzu (talk) 20:03, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
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"Тегела"

Please, fix "Тегела" to "Тегел". It's incorrect. Marshmallych 07:46, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg regex updated  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:41, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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Jose Rafael Cordero Sanchéz

Has "Jose Rafael Cordero Sanchéz" already been blacklisted? (with an accent in the last e). Months ago an article with the same title was created in the mg wiki; cf. nl:Wikipedia:Checklijst langdurig structureel vandalisme/Josercs1 --Jamez42 (talk) 00:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg regex updated  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Billinghurst. José is getting creative again, he succeeded in starting es:Jose R.Cordero Sanchez, and it was deleted ~12 hours ago. Can the regex be tweaked to catch such cases? (Courtesy ping Jamez42) Sam Sailor 06:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:16, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Blacklisting of offensive terms from usernames

I think that offensive terms should be blacklisted from usernames on Wikimedia, as there is a FANDOM-wide policy on its Terms of use that usernames cannot be offensive. For example:

  • The n-word (full form: 'nigger/nigga') should be blacklisted from usernames on Wikimedia, as it is offensive by being racist;
  • The c-word (full form: 'cunt') should also be blacklisted from usernames on Wikimedia, as it is offensive by being both ribald and vulgar;
  • The two f-words ('fuck' and 'faggot') should also be blacklisted from usernames on Wikimedia, as it is offensive by being both homophobic and vulgar;
  • The two r-words ('retard' and 'rape') should also be blacklisted from usernames on Wikimedia, as they are offensive by being both family-unfriendly and vulgar; and
  • The b-word (full form: 'bitch') should also be blacklisted from usernames on Wikimedia, as it is offensive by being sexist.

The above terms are just examples of offensive terms that really should be banned from usernames on Wikimedia; other offensive words (damn, cock, ass, tit, dipshit, poof, cracker, etc.) should really blacklisted from Wikimedia. Anyway, the aforementioned change should be permanent. Au revoir! --Peppa Pig the Second (talk) 11:36, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

You may want to review w:Scunthorpe problem. Also "FANDOM" seems to refer to Wikia, which is not a Wikimedia site. Anomie (talk) 14:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I have reviewed the Wikipedia article on the ‘Scunthorpe problem’, and its overview says the following: ‘The Scunthorpe problem is the blocking of e-mails, forum posts or search results by a spam filter or search engine because their text contains a string of letters that are shared with another (usually obscene) word. While computers can easily identify strings of text within a document, broad blocking rules may result in false positives, causing innocent phrases to be blocked.’ --Peppa Pig the Second (talk) 05:21, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Our blacklists are typically based on recommendations from administrators of our wikis in the 00s of languages that are used, or for where we globally see problematic usernames. Additionally we already have an extensive list of terms in title blacklist in numbers of languages. If you believe that a term is being abused in usernames, then I would encourage you to raise that at the wiki in which you primarily edit and discuss with your local admins. As a contra point. Faggot is a piece of wood that you burn. Rape is grown in fields and is used to produce oil. Bitch is a female dog, and retard means to slow. In how many languages would you like to have these translated and added to the blacklist? So, I have some sympathy for your point of view, you can see why we ask for the respective communities to produce their recommendations on what is problematic, and 15+ years later it can be seen that it has been a mostly effective approach.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Wrong. Faggot means 'a male homosexual', rape means 'the crime of forcing others to have sexual intercourse with the offender', bitch means 'a bad woman', and retard means 'a disabled person'. And those are all offensive. --Peppa Pig the Second (talk) 11:36, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Words can have multiple meanings. None of billinghurst's definitions are wrong. Anomie (talk) 13:25, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
You know; I'm thinking about the offensive side of these words. --Peppa Pig the Second (talk) 09:28, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
And words can be used in the non-offensive way. — regards, Revi 09:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
My point is that words can have multiple meanings, within a language, and between languages. For that reason we rely on the advice of administrators from the wikis for our blacklists based on the evidence of abuse, not reactively.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:32, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Now it looks as if offensive words in Wikimedia usernames should be censored by replacing them with more appropriate words. For example, instead of banning the word 'bitch' from Wikimedia usernames, it can be censored in them by being replaced with 'dog'; plus, instead of banning the word 'pussy' from Wikimedia usernames, it can be censored by being replaced with 'cat'.--Peppa Pig the Second (talk) 10:45, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
While I appreciate you bringing your concerns here, now you are being argumentative. We have explained how we handles things.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:53, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Declined Declined  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:53, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Request 20 Aug 2018

Please add .*in the penjs.* to the username blacklist (newaccountonly) due to massive ongoing sockpuppet creation — see [2] Nowak Kowalski (talk) 17:58, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done as it has seemed to have stopped [3].  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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Leading Greek letter

Bayer designations for stars in the constellation Boötes take the form of a Greek letter followed by the genitive form of the constellation name which is Boötis. Article titles consisting of a Greek letter in combination with non-latin characters are currently blacklisted. The star articles themselves are conventionally titled using the spelled-out form of the Green letter (eg. lambda for λ, lambda Boötis) but it is standard practice to provide a redirect from the name containing the Greek letter (eg. λ Boötis, especially useful for stars with proper names (eg. Arcturus). An exception would be helpful to allow this. There are Bayer designations in Boötes using almost all the Greek letters. Lithopsian (talk) 20:26, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

@Lithopsian: are you sure that this is a global blacklisted item, rather than something undertaken at the wiki of interest. I was able to create λ Boötis here without difficulty which should indicate that it is not in title blacklist. If you are certain that it is here where the issue exists, then please would you identify the line that you believe is preventing the addition.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, my mistake. This seems to be specific to the English Wikipedia. I'll try my request there. Sorry for the inconvenience. Lithopsian (talk) 09:08, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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131-2389-2398

Can this number be blacklisted? It's a known spam phone number after a search in Chinese. It's been used to create a number of spam accounts by presumably spambot, see this discussion at enwiki ([4]). The same thing happened back in January 2018 that resulted in this. Cheers, Alex Shih (talk) 05:37, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done special:diff/18384581  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

H A G

Please remove the following entry: .*[НHΗHⱧ]+[[:punct:] ]*[ΆAÁÀÃÄÂΑАA]+[[:punct:] ]*[GGԌ]+[[:punct:] ]*(?:[ΆAÁÀÃÄÂΑАA]|[EЕΕËEĖ])+[[:punct:] ]*[RRЯ]+.* <casesensitive>

This caused a false positive on Commons at File:STILL LIFE WITH A GARLAND OF ROSES.PNG. I don't think the Hagger vandal is still active in 2018, so we can probably remove most of the related titles from the list. Guanaco (talk) 04:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Guanaco: For the sake of one filename in capitals being blocked you wish a regex removed? Big call for a what was a hugely problematic vandal. I would want to see a community consensus for that sort of removal. It is pretty easy in this case to change case of your upload to avoid the blacklist.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:14, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Creation of pages in RuWiki

Please, remove this edit. This filter interrupt creation of some pages about settlements, for example, from this list: ru:Сосковский_район#Населённые_пункты. Всеслав Чародей (talk) 13:47, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I have asked for a whitelist at ruWP ... w:ru:MediaWiki talk:Titlewhitelist  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

"VIEW OF THE ABU AL-HAGGAR MOSQUE AT LUXOR.PNG"

.*[НHΗHⱧ]+[[:punct:] ]*[ΆAÁÀÃÄÂΑАA]+[[:punct:] ]*[GGԌ]+[[:punct:] ]*(?:[ΆAÁÀÃÄÂΑАA]|[EЕΕËEĖ])+[[:punct:] ]*[RRЯ]+.* <casesensitive> @Special:Upload

what is the evidence that this very detailed blacklist is effective? Slowking4 (talk) 13:30, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Slowking4: Define effective? It seems to have blocked your edit. How many other edits it has stopped is unknown as there is no visible log of the title blacklist and those that hold the back end controls will not allow it. it is there for a very specific set of vandalism and one that took place for numbers of years, so it is purposeful and it is still worth retaining.

Put your upload in anything but uppercase and your upload will work fine, and I believe that Commons would have that preference anyway.  — billinghurst sDrewth 06:55, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

a false positive is a sign of ineffectiveness. are blacklists assessed periodically, or does the dead hand of past sanctions live on forever, striking everyone, the guilty and innocent? filters are unaccountable as well as inscrutable. where is the A/B testing? it is all un-measured tool deployment. how would anyone know "anything but uppercase"; it is no where in the error messaging. i see a lot of preference cast in stone, which seems not to have a consensus. Slowking4 (talk) 00:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
No abusefilter or blacklist regex is ever going to be perfect, and if you follow the preferred non-shouting patterns at Commons, then you would not have hit the regex pattern. I suspect we are talking about a very small false-positive case, and I commented that the regex was implemented due to a significant problem. To note that we would generally not put in patterns that have a significant chance of a positive hit, and where identified we minimise as much as reasonably possible filters that are false positives.

With regard to periodic review, as I mentioned, that capacity is not enabled by Wikimedia for the use of administrators. There is a phabricator: ticket requesting that scope change to enable visibility of title blacklist logging, and it was rejected. You are welcome to add your commentary about the requirement for monitoring of false positives to that ticket.

For error messaging, where this was a significant vandal pattern, giving a pointer to change the case would defeat the purpose of that regex, though if there is a consensus for that change, then it will be implemented.

To the rest of your commentary, vague statements/accuations rather than specifics; I can respond to specifics. If you can identify problematic regex in the title blacklist that you believe are superfluous, then I would welcome those you identify. A/B testing? I look forward to your recommendations on how that would be undertaken.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:47, 3 December 2018 (UTC)