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Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

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The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

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As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 19:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your language • Get help

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[edit]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 19:43, 9 March 2017 (UTC) • Please help translate to your language • Get help

Wiki 4 Coop[edit]

Hello everyone,

I come to you to invite to re-read the submission of a new partnership project between the Wikimedia movement and the Belgian NGOs. The project is titled Wiki 4 Coop and I invite you to discover its submission page on Meta-Wiki. Do not hesitate to endorse the project if you like it and even correct my English if you have a little time. A beautiful end of day for all of you, Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 11:33, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

User:Lionel Scheepmans what sorts of medical content do they have? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:35, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Doc James nice to meet you again. Do you remember me ? I met you in Italy where we had a short discussion after a speach. Check here my picture if needed.
For your question, I don't know all the contain right now, but I can already say : photos, video and courses text of Nursing, childbirth, caesarean section. Every thing made in a University level and quality. More details will come soon. But welcome to endorse the grant. I'm not sure if my NGO will spend time and energy for Wikimedia Project without a financial compensation. They have internal solution to share their knowledge by their own internet web sides with non commercial licence witch is incompatible contain for wikimedia movement... Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 15:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes of course. Agree further content related to nursing and childbirth would be great. Are they willing to drop the NC license? That is often the greatest barrier to collaboration.
If they are willing there are a number of Wikipedians who are more than happy to help with the uploading to Commons and integration into WP. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:03, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
As you point, the big deal will be contacting all authors and asking about the commercial use. For non commercial web site (mainly agronomic subjects), I've already contacted Emmanuel to know if N.C. site could be share and include on zim packages proposed by kiwix app. Let we see. The other big job will be to tag all files uploaded. For the rest, yes help form the community is welcome. If you can narrow the place were I can contact online volunteers, your are welcome. Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 08:54, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Okay so are they willing to release the content under an open license? (ie drop the NC) That will be a requirement for effective collaboration. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:55, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Doc James, we are still discussing on this point. But I'm pretty sure that it will be ok. I've just receive today the information that all the contain of these website produced by my NGO and listed on this page (click on the blue buble 01) will drop the NC. That's already a big steep for wikimed because there is university contain about virology and neurophysiology than we can import to Wikiversity. I keep you informed for the rest. Do not hesitate to manifest your interest on the grant page, that could be good to inform the committee about it. Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 09:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Clicked though some of it. Are there many pictures? Can you provide links to some of the pictures that will hopefully soon be under an open license? Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:28, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Doc James, please, don't forgot to use notification wen you leave me a message otherwise, my reply isn't certain or can be done with delay like now. The aswer to your question could be probably few hundred of photos and potentially around 50 videos about medical contain. I can give you any links to photos or video right now without the authorization of authors and Louvain Coopération direction. Best, Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 12:59, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Okay thanks User:Lionel Scheepmans When you can give links would be interested to look at what is avaliable :-) Have contacts with bot folks for uploads if / when needed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:43, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't know about bot folks Doc James, for the link it's depend the issue of the rapid grant and project grant. Why don't you endorse it until now ? I've seen welcome grammatic corrections but not endorsement. Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 16:52, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
User:Lionel Scheepmans Can you clarify what / who the money would go to if this grant is accepted? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:33, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Oh sorry ! I was obvious for me Doc James, but in fact the answer of this question is necessary. The money of the grant will only, exclusively, and in totality go to the NGO w:Louvain Coopération bank account and the transaction will be deal directly with NGO banking responsable and the rapid grant will pay the half part of one hour of work during working day in benefit to de Wiki 4 Coop project during my regular and full time NGO staff activities (as a wikimedian in residence do in general I presume). Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 14:06, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
User:Lionel Scheepmans Okay so the money would go to supporting part of your salary as a Wikipedian in residence their? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:58, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
That a correct point of view Doc James. An other on is that the money will legitimize my participation on wikimedia projects during my working time paid by the NGO. The rapid grant just cover 30 min per day during 3 mount but in fact I've already spend more than this until now and before the eventual grant acceptation, and I will certainly spend much more time in the future. In my point of view the money will be principally a symbolic participation of Wikimedia on a Wikimedian in residence job mainly covered by my NGO. This financial implication give symbolic recognition from Wikimedia to the project and will give also example for lobbying in Belgian Cooperation sphere. Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Contact French native speaker, sorry for my dysorthography 10:37, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

2016 Medical Editors[edit]

Hey All. The data looking at medical editor numbers for 2016 across all languages is in here. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

COI policy[edit]

Hey all. IMO with recent issues within the movement, we would do well to have a clear COI policy.

I have begun drafting here Wiki Project Med/COI Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:03, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

World Science Photo Competition 2017[edit]

Hi guys. With Ivo K. from Wikimedia Estonia we are organizing the 2017 edition of commons:Commons:European Science Photo Competition 2015. This year is going to be international, and I am looking for qualified jurors. So far we have a Belgian photographer and a Swiss-Chinese chemistry professor, and I have some options for an astronomer. Is anyone from the academia with some interest in photography or scientific illustration interested? IMHO the best candidates are P.I. or at least some sort of managers or expert postdocs, it would help to show around how good the level is. I think someone in the area of medicine or pharmacology will be more than welcome in the jury.

There are also local committees with special or national prizes, so if you find the money for that, you can arrange them as well. I am organizing the Italian jury for example, but it takes much more time than few afternoons scrolling uploaded files. if enough of you come from the same geographical area (USA, Canada...) you can become a core for a local initiative and I help you to find more local jurors.--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Internet-in-a-Box store[edit]

Beginning to build an Internet-in-a-Box store. Am beginning to track expenses here. My hope is to have WPMEDF be the seller. Can board members please provide their thoughts here. Hope is that after an initial investment from me the store will be self sufficient financially. The plan is for the devices to be sold at cost. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

I like the idea, a lot. However we would need to:
  1. Define at-cost. It needs to take into account labor (you can assemble 1 for free, but not 1000), and some will inevitably break if we start producing more than just prototypes. We can of course adjust such numbers when we are more aware of what our real costs are, but we'd need to count them in from the start.
  2. We also have to think about how we can publicize this. Is it okay to use the WT:MED-banner? What will Wikipedia-users think of that? Will they be fine with us mentioning it in news-letters if we inform them that there is no profit involved? I know some editors were less than happy about the offline project in its entirety.
  3. Could we set up regional distribution? If we get the assembly easy enough to do I think a number of us would be willing to pitch in, saving transport costs.
  4. Also there is the question that if we can do it, why can't we just provide the documentation on how to build your own internet-in-a-box with Offline Wikipedia?
Thanks, CFCF 💌 📧 17:13, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Sure so yes "at cost" will change over time as costs change. We track costs per batch and than generate the cost per unit. The first batch will be build by volunteers.
We while worry about regional distribution if sales increase and that becomes necessary.
We already provide documentation regarding how to build your own. You can build your own right now. But as a physician running a health clinic in the developing world or a librarian lets say I DO NOT WANT TO BUILD my own. We are creating the option to buy one pre assembled :-)
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:39, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
  • There is some context for this in an upcoming article in The Signpost at en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/OFF NETWORK. It is challenging to concisely describe all the issues associated with documenting, providing, supporting, and selling this device. I think that 100 people are major stakeholders in the development of this project, and any of those people could talk for hours giving a unique perspective. There are details to sort but I do think that Wiki Project Med could sell the device. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
  • I support a test run that would allow us to explore feasibility and to get a better handle on costs, performance and user expectations. 100 seems to be a useful number to aim at given the timeline. -- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 15:13, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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