Talk:Wikimedia Affiliates Network

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I merged Chacowiki here, since they relate to the same set of ideas. SJ talk   08:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[]

For profit entities?[edit]

What about Wikia, wikiHow and other entities that match in all ways except they're for-profit? --Varnent (talk) 23:53, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[]

Taking out of draft and sending around..[edit]

Unless there are any objections or additional edits, I am going to take this out of draft and begin pushing it more aggressively with potential founding members. --Varnent (talk) 02:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[]

Mailing list request for comment[edit]

Following up on discussions from Wikimedia Conference 2015, there is interest among at least user groups and possibly also thematic organizations and chapters in supporting each other through sharing information, ideas, requests for advice, peer reviews, and other communications on a mailing list. Which mailing list should we use? --Pine 00:02, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[]

Option 1: expand the existing Chapters mailing list, which currently is open to chapter board members, to include board members and officers of chapters, thematic organizations, and user groups, but no WMF staff. Keep the list private.

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  1. --Lord Bumbury (talk) 06:43, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[]
  2. --Varnent (talk)(COI) 14:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[]
  3. --Grijz (talk) 17:02, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[]
  4. --Micru (talk) 18:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[]
  5. --Wertuose (talk) 04:22, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[]
  6. --DGG (talk) 19:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[]
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  1. This seems like the most logical route to me, promotes collaboration across all affiliate models, and might give that list a nice resurgence in activity. --Varnent (talk)(COI) 14:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[]

Option 2: lock the existing Chapters mailing list, which currently is open to chapter board members, and replace it with a new public list that is open to everyone and focuses its topics on subjects of interest to affiliates as stated above.

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Option 3: Keep the existing Chapters mailing list, which currently is open to chapter board members, and create a new private mailing list for the board members and staff of non-chapter affiliates

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Option 4: Keep the existing Chapters mailing list, which currently is open to chapter board members, and create a new public mailing list that is open to everyone and focuses its topics on subjects of interest to affiliates as stated above.

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Option 5: Focus on getting stuff done rather than on picking lists: Use Wikimedia-l until such time as we are clearly unhappy with our ability to discuss things there, or other people complain about our conversations or their volume.

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Consensus?[edit]

@Varnent: there seems to be consensus in the discussion above. Are you able to implement the change on the mailing list, hopefully with the consent of its current participants? --Pine 23:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[]

The list has been created. --Varnent (talk)(COI) 23:09, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[]


@Лорд Бъмбъри, Varnent, Grijz, Micru, Wertuose, DGG, and Pine: User groups have its new mailinglist, see mail:usergroups. (admins and moderators wanted!) --KuboF (talk) 22:34, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[]

@KuboF: I'm confused. The affiliates mailing list has already been created and is being promoted based in part on this request. What purpose does an additional list serve? --Varnent (talk)(COI) 23:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[]
I am confused, too. I was expecting, that the user groups get to be part of the chapters' mailing list. --Lord Bumbury (talk) 00:12, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[]
And I am confused too. I get no information about inclusion of usergroups into chapters' list but get notification about created usergroups' mailinglist. So? Can usergroups take part in chapters' list? How? --KuboF (talk) 15:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[]
The chapters-l list is privately run and not something that AffCom can change. We did talk to their moderators about a merged list, but ultimately given the activity level of that list, interest level of its moderators, and things like it being on private servers, it was decided that a new list on WMF servers would be best. The Affiliates mailing list was created as a new list where all affiliates are welcome and the list is on WMF operated servers so the affiliates can manage it with WMF technical support (if needed). I hope that helps clarify a few things. There is more information and more history on the affiliates mailing list page. I am not sure what the usergroups list is about. --Varnent (talk)(COI) 06:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)[]

How does this relate to Wikimedia movement affiliates?[edit]

A strategy preview document mentions "affiliates" and "partners" a lot, so I searched for "affiliates" and found this. Is this just a proposal from 2012 (if so, add {{Historical}} or some other flag), or is it happening? Please someone add a hatnote explaining its relation to Wikimedia movement affiliates. Thanks. -- SPage (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[]

SPage (WMF) I linked the concept you listed in the header of this article. It looks like there was recent activity here so I would say that this page is active. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:40, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[]
  • The distinction I see between the Wikimedia Affiliates Network and the Wikimedia movement affiliates page is that this one is taking a ground-up approach of building connections and collaborative work among affiliates, while the Wikimedia movement affiliates page is a more top-down approach and focused on Affcom's work. --Pine 23:26, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[]