Talk:Wikimedia Asia-Oceania Project

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History[edit]

"Wikimedia Hong Kong started the discussion of Wikimedia Asia Project through e-mail. After the discussion between most of the Asian chapters, they decided to apply a mailing list to Wikimedia Foundation for Asian Chapters."

Now this comes as a surprise. The Wikimedia Asia project was my idea and it was first discussed with Cary Bass, THD and later with Jerry (21 September 2007). Not that it bothers me too much, but just in case we want the historical timeline to remain factual. — Nearly Headless Nick {C} 14:21, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see, i am the guy to help Jerry make this becomes reality. But i also appreciate if you can share your own story about the invention of the project. Morgand536 05:28 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012[edit]

Just in case anyone watches this page but not the Wikimedia Asia mailing list: we will meet on 14 July, during Wikimania 2012. More details here: wm2012:Meetups#Wikimedia_Asia Deryck C. 09:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Value?[edit]

What would you say is the value to the mission, so far, from the so-called Wikimedia Asia Project? Can we point at any tangible benefits? The page so far mostly lists aspirations and the mere fact of some meetings/lunches taking place, but no details. It would be interesting to learn of the benefits, if any exist, especially if this loose identity is to be the basis for future events or funding requests. Asaf Bartov (WMF Grants) talk 00:51, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Meeting minutes snapshot on 2013-08-10[edit]

http://epl.wikimedia.org/p/WikimediaAsia

WIKIMEDIA ASIA MEETING August 10, 2013 17:45 - 19:10 JOIN THE ASIAN CHAPTERS MAILING LIST! https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters

Attendees[edit]

From Bangladesh[edit]

  • Tanvir Rahman User:Wikitanvir // Secretary, Wikimedia Bangladesh, Affiliations Committee

From the Philippines[edit]

From Australia[edit]

from Japan[edit]

from Korea[edit]

from Singapore[edit]

from Taiwan[edit]

from Hong Kong[edit]

from Macau[edit]

from Nepal[edit]

from India[edit]

from PR China[edit]

from Cambodia[edit]

From Indonesia[edit]

From Israel[edit]

From the WMF[edit]

Minutes[edit]

History[edit]

  • First organized by WMHK in 2010
    • Founding members: see the list
    • Discussed in Berlin, and founded in Gda?sk in 2010
  • Page on Meta
  • Nothing has really happened since then

Motives[edit]

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Asia_Project

  • Asaf's comments on Wikimedia Asia: Do something !

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asian_Chapters_Meeting Francis (HK): Chinese Wikipedia conference [WMHK, WMTW, Chinese Wikipedians?] Josh (PH): Conference is good. But need to set up some goals for the conference. What should we get from the conference? John (AU): Chinese representation should add up Francis (HK): Foundation focused on India, bring users up will be least controversial. Butch (PH): Start from simple thing. I am interest in articles of creating Chinese provinces, or major roads. Make those into different language. Database establishing programs. Craig (AU): Agree. Start from easy tasks, sth. easy and achievable. Then we can tackle something more difficult. Josh (PH): What does we want from this? Francis(:Non political, but easy said then done really. Josh (PH): Agree topics on non-political

What do we want to achieve?[edit]

  • Non-political
  • Shangkuanlc(TW): Cultural heritage (accumulation of free knowledge; WLM/Wiki Loves Art)
    • Asian cultures
  • Best practices for projects
  • Conan (HK): Books of asian countries in public domain into Wikisource. e.g. Vientnamese books into Chinese Wikisource. China & India's books.
    • John (AU): Texts every Wikisource should have
  • Liang (TW): Open data in goverment of each countries.
  • Maung (MM): Make it easier to contribute.
  • Ganesh (NE): Tried to contribute an article in the English Wikipedia about a famous but deceased person using old books. [Notability]
  • Vantharith (KH): A central calendar of events (BarCamp, conferences, etc.) and a list of skills
  • Wikipedia Roadshow
    • Technical challenge: difficult to translate into other languages.

Most of Asian countries have their own characters. Sometimes have difficulties: e.g. VisualEditor does not work properly; the PDF book creator does not work properly

    • push foundation to do sth. about this.
      • Jack (SG): VisualEditor is still in Beta. Just a time problem.
        • Craig (AU): Help the foundation about Visual Editor.
        • Conan (HK): translation of VE for zh-hans/jp have been done. Such problems (with relations with compatibility of Asian script fonts) can be overcomed under our solidarity.

Francis(HK):We should show solidarity Jack: Francis said "pressure group" with the Foundation. The group can serve as an intermediary in content disputes. Cheol (KR): Rendering; beta testing team for Asian languages Deror (IL): Bug Amir Aharoni (bald guy with a big beard) for interface issues Vishnu (IN): It is important that we first compile a list and do priority grading of the issues. I do not think bugging a single person will help. There are clear steps listed out to resolve bugs on Meta. Tanvir (BD): Contact Tomasz about PDF book creator Vishnu (IN): Is there a link to the filed bug about this issue? Would be useful to have it. Liang (TW): We should broaden the discussion: not just the features, but what functions of Wikipedia can do.

  • We want more users
  • Friendlier environment for editors
  • Training documents (i.e. Education Program)
  • Teahouse

Maung (MM): Mobile editing difficult to contribute on Mobile phones. Gawainus (CN): In a Guangzhou meeting only 1 girl showed up (gender gap)

Broad things that we want[edit]

  • Jack (SG): Advocacy, sharing of best practices
  • Chris (ID): Commons (we have been focusing on issues about text)
  • Francis (HK): Wikimedia Asia "website", data/status sheet, Asian advisory board (no competition)
  • Vishnu (IN): What can we do collectively? (government funding, advocacy networks, etc.)

Visdaviva:cultural level, educational level... Visdaviva:finances, resources, projects on Wikipedia...that could be multilingual Visdaviva:How to tap into these resources? Rather than technical issues. Asaf: We don't meet between Wikimania and the Wikimedia Conference (Chapter Conference) sharing resources, sharing programs Butch (PH): We have social media Conan (HK): Manpower -> let's start small Eugene (PH): An "Asian" Wikipedia Signpost (newsletter) -> monthly? quarterly?

    • Tanvir: can we sustain this?

Asaf: most of us don't share best practices -> we should do common projects (an Asian content exchange program?)

3 items we are going to do in the following 3 months[edit]

  • Content exchange,
    • Randomizer/lottery challenge of certain article.
  • Visual Editor,
    • Cheol(KR): report on asian languages. the testing pool.
    • Tanvir(BD): It's already there. Find the box and the link there.
    • Cherol(KR): Bankpool & test group for visual editor? Spreadsheet for bug input.
    • Craig(AU): Doing the testing with the team.
    • Asaf: People complaing on Wiki needs to be translated for WMF to hear. BugZilla link.
  • Chapter exchange,
    • Asaf wants to see the translation! People only speak in English will help other language to paste.
    • User:Piotrus(Poland/KR) want to volunteer. Get people onto front page on English Wikipedia - talk to me if you would like your article to appear here

Keep in Touch[edit]

Wikimedia Asia Project on Meta[edit]

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project

Collaborative Projects[edit]

I hope we can add those projects on the article which we started after Wikimania HK meetup.

--Ryuch (talk) 06:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]