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Notification of Past Due Chapter Reporting[edit]

Good day, This is a notification to bring to your attention that your organization is currently past due on its required annual reporting. Chapters are required to submit an annual activity and annual financial report covering the entirety of the 12-month agreement period due within 4 months of the end of the organizations fiscal year. Reports must be written in English, posted to meta, and linked on the meta Reports page.

This page is used to track how organizations and groups are meeting reporting requirements described in their agreements with the Wikimedia Foundation (e.g. chapter agreements, thematic organization agreements, user group agreements). It is the central place where affiliates can add reports about their activities, share their plans, and even news or social media channels with the wider movement. When new reports are available, organizations and groups should add them to this page to keep their columns up to date.

As noted on the meta Reports page, your organization’s 2017 annual reporting became past due in April. Please be sure to

  1. Post your 2017 annual reporting to the meta Reports page as soon as possible to return to compliance with your chapter agreement.
  2. Check that your group’s page is also up to date with past report links for historical record-keeping, and
  3. Please send an email to Wikimedia-l in order to share with a movement-wide audience.

If you have any questions or need any further guidance, please don’t hesitate to reach out.

Best regards, DNdubane (WMF) (talk) 17:35, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@DNdubane (WMF): It has been updated sometime back, please check.--Abhinav619 (talk) 05:47, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

2018 Affiliations Committee call for candidates[edit]

This is an update from the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee.

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The Affiliations Committee – the committee responsible for guiding volunteers in establishing Wikimedia chapters, thematic organizations, and user groups – is looking for new members!

The main role of the Affiliations Committee is to guide groups of volunteers that are interested in forming Wikimedia affiliates. We review applications from new groups, answer questions and provide advice about the different Wikimedia affiliation models and processes, review affiliate bylaws for compliance with requirements and best practices, and advise the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees on issues connected to chapters, thematic organizations and Wikimedia user groups.

The committee can include up to fifteen members, roughly half of whom are selected every twelve months for staggered two-year terms. Those joining the committee during the current process will serve a two-year term ending in December 2020.

Key skills

Being a part of the Affiliations Committee requires communication with volunteers all over the world, negotiating skills, cultural sensitivity, and the ability to understand legal texts. We look for a healthy mix of different skill sets in our members, including the following key skills and experience:

- Willingness to process applications through a set, perhaps bureaucratic process.
- Readiness to participate in political discussions on the role and future of affiliates, models of affiliation, and similar topics.
- Availability of up to 5 hours per week, and the time to participate in a monthly two-hour voice/video meeting.
- International orientation.
- Fluency in English.
- Ability to work and communicate with other languages and cultures.
- Strong understanding of the structure and work of affiliates and the Wikimedia Foundation.
- Knowledge of different legal systems and experience in community building and organizing are a plus.
- Skills in other languages are a major plus.
- Experience with or in an active affiliate is a major plus.
- Strong track record of effective collaboration (such as evidenced skills at facilitation, mediation, negotiation, and so forth) are a major plus.
- Willingness to use one's real name in committee activities (including contacts with current and potential affiliates) when appropriate.

We are looking for people who are excited by the challenge of empowering volunteers to get organized and form communities that further our mission around the world. In exchange, committee members selected will gain the experience of supporting their world-wide colleagues to develop their communities as well as personal development in guiding organizational development, facilitating affiliate partnerships, and professional communications.

Selection process

As a reflection of our commitment to openness, transparency, and bilateral engagement with the Wikimedia community, the 2018 member selection process will include a public review and comment period. All applications received by the committee will be posted on Meta at Affiliations Committee/Candidates/December 2018, and the community will be invited to provide comments and feedback about each candidate.

At the end of the public comment period, the applications will be voted on by the members of the committee who are not seeking re-election, taking into account comments put forward by the committee's members, advisors, Wikimedia Foundation staff and board liaisons, and the community. A final decision will be made by mid-January 2019, with new members expected to join later that month.

How to apply

If you are interested in joining the committee, please post your application on the nomination page and send an email announcing your application to affcom@lists.wikimedia.org by 31 December 2018. Your application must include the following information:

- Your full name and Wikimedia username
- A statement describing your relevant experience, skills, and motivation for joining the committee.
- Answers to the following three questions:

  1. How do you think affiliates work best together to partner on effective projects and initiatives?
  2. What do you see as the role of affiliates in the Wikimedia movement in the next three years?
  3. What do you feel you will bring to the committee that makes you a uniquely qualified candidate?


If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me and/or the committee as a whole. We are happy to chat or have a phone call with anyone about our work if this helps them decide to apply. Please distribute this call among your networks, and do apply if you are interested!

Best regards,
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, 06:25, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

New Affiliations Committee appointments[edit]

AffCom is excited to share with you the news that the Wikimedia Foundation Board has unanimously approved the changes to the Bylaws during the last Board meeting on January 30, 2019.

This change allows the participation of User Groups in the Affiliate-selected Board seats (ASBS) 2019 process.

To read the Board's announcement, please click here

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Help us make Wikipedia talk pages more accessible to more participants[edit]

Hello!

Our team at the Wikimedia Foundation is working on a project to improve the ease-of-use and productivity of wiki talk pages. As an affiliate, I can imagine you’ve run into challenges explaining talk pages to first-time participants, or it is an consultation that would interest your members.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis – to ask questions, to resolve differences, to organize projects and to make decisions. Communication is essential for the depth and quality of our content, and the health of our communities.

We're currently leading a global consultation on how to improve talk pages, and we're looking for groups that can discuss and report on their experiences using (or helping other people to use) wiki talk pages. We'd like to invite you to participate, with the user groups that you belong to. You can learn more about the consultation at Mediawiki.org and if you're interested in hosting a group discussion (on-wiki or off-wiki), you can sign up at the participant sign-up group.

If you’d like to participate or if you have any questions, please contact us and let us know. The more people participate from many horizons, the better the outcome will be.

Thank you! Trizek (WMF) 15:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Call for complementary facilitators and more to get the ASBS 2019 process started![edit]

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Hi everyone, hope all is fine with you!

The next weeks will be intense, as affiliates figure out their participation in the process that will soon select 2 people for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Since new Bylaws established that the user groups are for the first time going to be involved in such process, a lot more support than before is certainly going to be necessary, among other things, for big and healthy conversations on the topic. Hence, please encourage members of your group to become a complementary facilitator, or sign up yourself! You can add yourself to the list on Meta or reply to me to flag availability. One person from the facilitators group should soon be selected to liaise with the Foundation Board’s Chair, María Sefidari, on behalf of all affiliates, and it may be wise to also find a deputy for them.

Finally, if you can think of any huge obstacles that would prevent your group from participating to the process (for instance, a language barrier, or lack of good decision-making mechanisms, etc.), please reach out to me directly: it is really important that we hear about them as early as possible. Thank you! Elitre (WMF) 15:23, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Elitre (WMF): User:Abhinav619, former board member at Wikimedia India has expressed his interest in volunteering for this opportunity. We would like to acknowledge that Abhinav has a good standing in working on different projects with community members in India and larger South Asia. Best Wishes for the entire election exercise and we look forward to the essential learnings.[WMIN] Yohannvt (talk) 05:18, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Yohannvt, thanks for your note! Abhinav is already active :) TTYS, Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:45, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Update on the Affiliate-selected Board seats 2019 process[edit]

Hi all,

The Election Facilitators met on Friday, April 5. We finalized the resolution, which is now frozen. The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation will be asked to approve the resolution.

We have made two small changes to be more inclusive. We extended the date for compliance with AffCom reporting and being in good standing to May 7 to allow time for as many Affiliates as possible to be current with these requirements. The Election Facilitators adjusted the language in case a quorum is not met during the election.

On the talk page of the resolution one issue was raised. The issue looks like to be about a possible candidate. Affiliates will have ample time to discuss the merits of candidates during nomination time, screening time, and they can cast their votes on candidates. The Election Facilitators didn't see the necessity for this change, and left the resolution on this point unchanged.

The Election Facilitators will be Abhinav Srivastava, Lane Rasberry, Jeffrey Keefer, Ad Huikeshoven, Neal McBurnett and Alessandro Marchetti. We will welcome more volunteers to assist us in this process, to reach out to the diversity in language and gender in our communities, and do so in an advisory role.

The nomination period opens on April 15. We are going to prepare nomination pages on Meta. You can expect a call for nominations. There is a draft call, including a candidates' profile section with non-binding guidelines about experience and characteristics for nominees. You are welcome to add your insights, or discuss on the talk page.

Erica Litrenta (WMF staff) supports us in this process. She will reach out to all affiliates through mail and other channels to make sure we are up to date with (user)name and contact details of your primary contact.

On behalf of the Election Facilitators, Ad Huikeshoven 10:52, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Update about the Affiliate-selected Board seats process 2019[edit]

ASBS 2019.pdf

Hello everyone!

  • The Resolution has been approved by the Board of Trustees;
  • Nominations phase is now open, from April 15 00:00 UTC to April 30 23:59 UTC. See the Call for Candidates and Nominations pages;
    • Community members may ask questions of the candidates;
  • Your main representative has just received an email to confirm that they are indeed the primary contact and will perform official actions on behalf of your group (such as endorsing candidates and then voting). Some groups also need to verify their eligibility status in due time, as explained in the email;
  • New content is available to spread awareness around the process - the infographic on this page has clickable links and can be translated, and a primer is available, that we hope will be particularly helpful to those new to such a process;
  • Finally, you are welcome to help with translations! Pick one page from the ASBS category and, in the next couple of weeks, please consider translating profiles of the candidates in particular.

Thanks for your attention! The Facilitators for ASBS 2019, 07:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Affiliate-selected Board seats 2019 process: your representative[edit]

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Hello. The name of the only person who will vote on behalf of this group to select the next two Board members is now at m:Affiliate-selected Board seats/2019/Eligible entities. Please contact me directly as soon as possible if you need any kind of corrections there. There's only a few hours left to endorse candidates, and only the official voter can do that. I would also like to take this opportunity to remind you that you can make a difference with the necessary translations.

Appreciate your attention and your support so far! Thank you! Elitre (WMF) and Facilitators of ASBS 2019, 12:15, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Introducing Wikimedia Space: A platform for movement news and organizations[edit]

Hi Wikimedia India,
I’m writing to let you know that the Community Engagement department [1]at the Wikimedia Foundation is launching a new platform, Wikimedia Space. Here, you will find stories for and by contributors to the Wikimedia movement, and a space for discussions of different topics.

We know that finding information about Wikimedia activities and processes is very complicated, which makes the learning curve to enter our movement and be successful afterwards, really steep. By centralizing community stories and conversations in one shared space, we believe we are facilitating access and discoverability of topics across the movement, improving, in turn, connections among Wikimedians.

As an affiliated organization to the Wikimedia Foundation, we hope that you can share this platform with your local community, and we count on you to encourage them to add their voices. If you’d like to contribute stories, and overall, participate in the discussion section, please read our blogging guidelines and our code of conduct and join the conversation. Find more information about the project on its page on Meta.

Looking forward to seeing you at Wikimedia Space,
María Cruz, Communications and Outreach Manager, Wikimedia Foundation.
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:53, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

References

Shutting down of Wikimedia India[edit]

Wikimedia India Chapter is to be de-recognized by WMF and shut down, from September 14, 2019, for the inability of the community to abide by Foundation requirements and lack of leadership. The community has accused WMF of not taking them into confidence and have sought a public hearing on the issue.Per Nitnaware, Himanshu (July 14 2019). "It's a curtain call for Wikimedia India Chapter". Pune Mirror. Retrieved 2019-07-14.  Check date values in: |date= (help) Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 15:00, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Maybe Titodutta can say something more about the circumstances (since he is employed by CIS), given that the souring of love affair between CIS and WMF-I, seems to be a major mitigating factor. Or Krishna Chaitanya Velaga can say something about his' being a board member but claiming absolute ignorance about the state of affairs.Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 15:17, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm surprised that this made the news already and I'm even more surprised that the community has to learn about the de-recognition from the press. The image of Wikimedia Foundation shutting down WMIN to please Google and its deep-pocketed projects is especially unflattering and I hope the WMF offers a powerful counter-narrative rather than the usual stonewalling (like "given no other choice"). Nemo 18:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Precisely; there's nothing in public apart from the linked news and a MayDay message by Abhinav to the Wikimedia-mailing-list, when the AffCom had already settled on the decision. There's absolutely nothing else in any wiki/mailing list. Both the sides (WMIN and AffCom) need to give some clear answers, as to the complete absence of transparency. 06:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Winged Blades of Godric (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2019
I see below that the stonewalling continues. Pity, a wasted opportunity. Nemo 22:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Support for our communities across India[edit]

Hello everyone,

Wikimedia projects are supported by you—a network of generous individual volunteers, groups, and organizations around the world. Together, you collaboratively enrich, grow, and advance the Wikimedia projects and free knowledge mission.

You may have heard about the Affiliations Committee’s decision to recommend the de-recognition of Wikimedia India. Some community members have asked what this means for the future of WIkimedia communities in India. We want to share more information about the AffCom decision, and reaffirm our commitment to and support for our many communities across India.

The Affiliations Committee is a community-run body of volunteers that represents and supports Wikimedia affiliates. After several years of working with Wikimedia India to bring its activities in line with chapter requirements, the Affiliations Committee recommended in June 2019 that the Wikimedia Foundation not renew the chapter agreement.

Wikimedia India was first recognized as a chapter in 2011. In 2015, it experienced difficulties meeting chapter agreement obligations. Working with the Affiliations Committee and the Foundation, the chapter developed a plan of action and returned to good standing by 2017. However, between 2017 and 2019 the chapter was unable to secure a license to act as a fiduciary organization, and is not currently legally registered as a charity in India to accept funding from the Foundation. The Foundation and Affiliations Committee both hope that this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter will take all the steps needed to be eligible for recognition.

We are grateful for the vibrant, growing community in India who has shown great leadership and created significant impact within our global movement. The Foundation currently supports eight Indic language community user groups, and we expect two more to be announced by AffCom in the coming weeks. We receive more than 700 million pageviews to Wikipedia every month from readers in India, and the growth of the Indic community is a top priority for the future of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects.

The Republic of India is of great importance to the Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia Foundation remains committed to supporting volunteer editors, contributors, readers, and donors across India. We’re grateful for all of your continued and growing efforts to support Wikimedia projects and our free knowledge mission. We look forward to continuing our work with you together.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation,

Valerie D’Costa
Chief of Community Engagement
Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@CKoerner (WMF): Thank You for your response. I will be happy to provide few clarifications and would also like to ask few questions. It would be grateful to receive your response.
  • unable to secure a license to act as a fiduciary organization : Wikimedia India which is registered under Karnataka Societies Act, 1960 is governed by rules, procedures, legislation's and jurisdictions within the Republic of India. Wikimedia India submits its annual report to the registrar office for the Karnataka society every financial year beginning 1st April till 31st March.
  • is not currently legally registered as a charity in India to accept funding from the Foundation. : This is not a government license to attain utility which can be accessed by all if things are in order. Repeated best efforts are being made to attain the said license. Several times on public platform such information has been shared and sharing again for visibility here. Has WMF done some independent research on the same ? Grateful to receive a response.
  • The Foundation and Affiliations Committee both hope that this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter will take all the steps needed to be eligible for recognition. : As follow-up to the second statement this is not a utility license. What is the view of Foundation and Affiliations Committee on Chapter's zero budget activities ? As asked by the Affiliations Committee would running programs and taking the movement forward not meet sufficiency and having WMF grants be a necessary criteria for sufficiency ?
  • we expect two more to be announced by AffCom in the coming weeks. There is public information about Wikipedians of Goa User Group which can also be found on the Application Pipeline page but there is complete secrecy about the second User Group. Why has Chapter's view also not recorded for the same ? It is mandatory for the Affiliations Committee to approach the existing affiliates in the same Geographical area.

Thank You. Looking forward to hearing. --Abhinav619 (talk) 06:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello Abhinav,
Thank you for providing that clarification. Please see our response to your questions in line...
is not currently legally registered as a charity in India to accept funding from the Foundation. : This is not a government license to attain utility which can be accessed by all if things are in order. Repeated best efforts are being made to attain the said license. Several times on public platform such information has been shared and sharing again for visibility here. Has WMF done some independent research on the same ? Grateful to receive a response.
We acknowledge and encourage the best efforts made to get FRCA licensing. It is a necessary step for Wikimedia India to receive funding like other Indic organizations have. The Affiliations Committee (AffCom) requested evidence of this license from Wikimedia India, it does not independently research affiliate licensing and registration.
The Foundation and Affiliations Committee both hope that this licensing and registration can be secured, and that the chapter will take all the steps needed to be eligible for recognition. : As follow-up to the second statement this is not a utility license. What is the view of Foundation and Affiliations Committee on Chapter's zero budget activities ? As asked by the Affiliations Committee would running programs and taking the movement forward not meet sufficiency and having WMF grants be a necessary criteria for sufficiency ?
The revocation notice was based on Wikimedia India’s activities between December 2018 and May 2019, and it set out concerns about the chapter’s capacities in terms of Legal Structure, Open Governance, Active Contributor Involvement, overall Capacity, and with regard to organizational best practices required of chapters. The necessary criteria for chapters have also been shared.
we expect two more to be announced by AffCom in the coming weeks. There is public information about Wikipedians of Goa User Group which can also be found on the Application Pipeline page but there is complete secrecy about the second User Group. Why has Chapter's view also not recorded for the same ? It is mandatory for the Affiliations Committee to approach the existing affiliates in the same Geographical area.
Both user group applicants referred to are shown in our new pipeline under committee review: Wikipedians of Goa User Group and Dehalvi Wikimedia User Group. Notification about the applications and request for comments was sent to all existing Indian affiliates in good standing. Wikimedia India did not receive the notification as the chapter was already in suspension as of 10 November, 2018, before the two new applications were submitted.
On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation,
Valerie D’Costa
Chief of Community Engagement
Wikimedia Foundation
Posted by CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 15:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @CKoerner (WMF):
  • You have mentioned that it is a necessary step for Wikimedia India to receive funding. There are so many other affiliates who work on zero-budget then why this special criteria for India Chapter.
  • India Chapter till date has been requesting Affiliations Committee to put all communications in public. Chapter has no communication records since November 2018 where Affiliations committee was asking for evidence on efforts put up for FCRA License. Please provide necessary information like a Mail followed with Time-stamp etc.
  • Wikimedia Foundation has been asked for their views on Chapter running zero-budget programs, however you have responded on different parameters like Open Governance, Capacity etc. Please respond to the questions asked specifically. In Addition, Affiliations committee has been asked to provide evidence on several such parameters however they haven't, however this is not the question asked to WMF. Please answer as per the query.
  • Thank You for your response on User Groups. --Abhinav619 (talk) 17:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Affiliations Committee Communication[edit]

Abhinav,
AffCom’s main concern has been that the chapter has overcommitted itself and has not been able to develop the capacities needed to comply with the requirements for continued chapter recognition; specifically, the suspension notice was sent based on concerns regarding the chapter’s capacities in terms of legal structure, open governance, active contributor involvement, and overall capacity, and with regard to organizational best practices required of chapters. According to the suspension notice, the window for demonstrating those capacities and practices to AffCom was between December 2018 and May 2019, and the chapter failed to do so. Indeed, we imagine that the barrier to receiving Foundation and other foreign program funds has limited the chapter’s capacities and development.
The final window for demonstrating Wikimedia India’s chapter capacities and practices was between December 2018 and May 2019, as detailed in the suspension notice AffCom sent on November 10, 2018. The submissions by the Chapter in March 2019, and now June 2019, while intended to meet the terms of the suspension notice, were submitted late and did not evidence the capacities in question; this was explained in detail in the April call and associated notes. The June submission was made only after AffCom’s decision to revoke the recognition and, upon review, does not appear to resolve the primary points of concern, which remain unaddressed.
As you know, AffCom has also notified and encouraged Wikimedia India to reorganize and reapply as a Wikimedia User Group in order to stay within the Wikimedia affiliate ecosystem while you work to redevelop the capacities named above. This would allow the group to begin setting a new track record and more attainable goals for an organization without any funding. We encourage you to reach out to explore the steps necessary to apply as a Wikimedia User Group.
Kirill Lokshin
Chair, Affiliations Committee
17:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @Kirill Lokshin:, I have re-allocted the discussion under a separate header.
  • There is still complete silence from your response on putting all communications under public domain.
  • There is still complete silence from your response on providing objective responses to different parameters like Open Governance etc. Please reply with facts and evidence as also asked over Public Mailing list. Chapter continues to believe they do not hold much weight.
  • You mention specific timelines but do not answer why Chapter is not given a right to be heard even once before the suspension notice is being provided. In addition, why did Affiliations committee did not respond to Mails and invited for Internet Calls. We continue to believe our oral responses were not taken in any action.
  • Please provide views of Affiliations Committee on Chapter running zero-budget self-financed programs.

Thanks. --Abhinav619 (talk) 17:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Re-assessment For The Decision[edit]

Hi @Kirill Lokshin:, At first place I appreciate that you yourself understand restrictive foreign funding as been the problem for India Chapter. Most people outside India don't understand that. I recommend in all good spirit to revisit your study. Please don't get me wrong but we understand Affiliations Committee to be someone who help affiliates in their problem. Your response looks in bad light. You should help instead and not suggest User Group model etc. Without Chapter there will be no volunteer body at national level but only CIS. There is no election and democracy out there. You know right Chapter works without any money ? Then, help them out and listen to their problems. Working without any money for the entire annual cycle is not an easy task. There should be appreciation and not punishment. -Nikhil.kawale (talk) 10:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear @Kirill Lokshin:,
  1. Moving to nation chapter status to user-group status is not going gain FCRA approval. It will only going weaken the case.
  2. National Chapter has a funding issue. Indian nationals can donate to chapter without any issue. Donating to WMF or WMIN has no tax benefit. Ask WMIN to a plan for one financial year and raise required fund directly from Indian nationals from Wikimedia sites.
I know this is not going to happen. This is suggested multiple times from 2011 onwards. Niether WMF nor Affiliations Committee want to help. They just tell get the FCRA approval which almost impossible now.

-- naveenpf (talk) 11:31, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Anirudh has already mentioned most of the points I also wanted to say. (Check here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2019-July/014215.html) I will add a few more things here.
WMF is very very keen on all kinds of legal compliance. The recent example is the "Germany court order". Surprisingly, possibly for the first time in Wikipedia history, all the relevent content was WIPED out from Wikipedia within a day of the court order where only one person was affected by the content. Compared to that, here in India, FCRA issue is affecting thousands of organisations in a serious way and AFFCOM is still not able to understand the FCRA compliance issue. (Maybe, compared to Indian languages, German language is better understood by concerned people!!)
By the way, What was the support given by WMF/AFFCOM to WMIN in the FCRA matters? Have they provided any consultant or legal help to WMIN. Or even some high level contacts in the concerned Government office to put up our case further.
It will also be interesting to know if by any chance, CIS looses FCRA, (I sincerely wish that does not happen anytime) AFFCOM/WMF will remove their affiliation? Read the WMF news article here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/04/11/a-german-court-forced-us-to-remove-part-of-a-wikipedia-articles-history-heres-what-that-means/
Indian Wikipedian community is very very keen on expenditure, especially wherever they feel that some wrong expenditure is made (not just by Indian organisation but even when WMF money is spent) They become very very concerned about it and become very vocal. Mail thread goes on for months asking for justificaiton of such expenditure.(eg. check here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2018-July/013400.html) Hardly anyone from WMF/AFFCOM comment on it. Compared to that, when India chapter is not spending any money and doing all zero budget activities, what could be the problem with it for the community or AFFCOM or WMF. Actually they should appriciate and should be happy about saving lots of money and still doing activities.
The closure of India chapter topic comes up again and again and some lengthy discussions happen on it. I am referring to one such mail thread a few years back and specificaly want WMF people to read my comment that time in a reply to Gerard Meijssen. Please check it out here: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-September/011563.html
Now that AFFCOM is showing so much concern about the India activities, it will be better if they can tell us (the stake holders in this- Indian Wikipedians, volunteers, current and past WMIN EC members and general WMIN members) the comparision of performance of affiliates in India namely WMIN and CIS-A2K. What is the expenditure on various activities, paid staff etc etc. And give us a clear understanding of where the real objection is. I suppose this should be with reference to the contract between WMF and WMIN. I read the contract document again some time back and could hardly see any possible serious violation of the contract that AFFCOM is referring to.

Sudhanwa (talk) 20:58, 19 July 2019 (UTC)