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Weekly Working Phase Updates[edit]

This section will be used for a weekly working phase update. The updates will also be posted in the Wikipedia to the Moon facebook group.

28 October[edit]

The final week of the Wikipedia to the Moon Working phase is behind us. In case you still have featured articles and lists in the pipeline, you have until Monday, 31 October to push them through the review process and get them featured. Please let us know if there are any major problems. If your Wikipedia community does not have featured articles, your community also has until Monday to compile a list of the best articles in your language and provide a link in the Wikipedia to the Moon Work station.

We would also like to remind you that you can still help by translating Greetings for the disc on the Greetings page while we start to compile the featured articles and lists over the next few weeks. Please help us translate the Greetings page.

We're very close to the finishing line! So thank ou to everybody who has helped with the project so far!

21 October[edit]

We're in week 15 of the Wikipedia to the Moon working phase. This means that there are only a few days left to get the articles you're working on featured! Please keep up the good work.

We would also like to include greetings from all Wikipedia-languages as a "starting page" on the Moon disc. We have set up a page with an English version of the greetings. We now need your help to translate it! Please have a look at Wikipedia to the Moon/Greetings and click on "Translate this page" on top of the header if you would like to help translate the greetings into your native language and / or languages you speak fluently.

14 October[edit]

We're now in week 14 of the Wikipedia to the Moon working phase. This means we have 17 days left until the end of the month, when all Featured Articles and all Featured Lists will be extracted from Wikipedia in order to send them to the Moon.

So far, the number of Featured Articles has increased by almost 450 across all Wikipedia language versions. That is an incredible feat! Everone that has contributed so far has helped making Wikipedia even better in the long run. So let's use the remaining weeks of the working phase. Please keep editing so that we reach 500 new articles before the working phase is over. Together, we can do it!

If you need any help or support from fellow Wikipedians in this final stage, please just use this discussion page.

Thank you all for your amazing work so far!

7 October[edit]

We're now in week 13 of the Wikipedia to the Moon working phase. With only a few weeks left before the articles which will go to the moon are tallied and counted! If you are stuck with your own articles and need help, please communicate on the Working phase discussion page to get some help!

30 September[edit]

We're now in week 13 of the Wikipedia to the Moon working phase. This means, we now have exactly 1 month left to work on articles and get them featured. We know that the review-process for featured articles and lists can take up quite a lot of time, so we would like to remind you to keep that in mind if you are currently working on an article.

We also highly recommend using this Wikipedia to the Moon Discussion page to get help and support from other Wikipedians. If you let them know what you are working on, and how they can help, this will make it a lot easier to get done in time. Also remember that they can help you with the voting process!

We are really excited to see what you guys have been working on, so please let us know!

23 September[edit]

We are now in week 12 of the Wikipedia to the Moon Working phase. Last weekend, the moon-team from Wikimedia Deutschland went to WikiCon near Stuttgart to advertise Wikipedia to the Moon at the largest conference for German-speaking Wikipedians in the world. We still have quite a few weeks to go, so please keep working on your favourite articles to get them featured! As a reward, you will be immortalised on the moon!

We have also started to prepare the event at which we will hand over the Wikipedia disc to the Part Time Scientists later this year. Please make sure to use this page to talk about what you're working on. For example, you could let others know which articles you are currently editing to get them featured. This will help motivate other people to get involved.

9 September[edit]

We are now in week 10 of the Wikipedia to the Moon Working phase and would like to use this opportunity to introduce you to the Part-Time Scientists. We met up with the team in their Berlin offices again this week and gave them an update about how the working phase is progressing. They are very excited about taking Wikipedia's best articles to the moon next year and confirmed that they are on track with their preparations.

With a little bit less than 2 months to go, please keep editing your favourite articles and try to get them featured! As always, please use this discussion page to let everyone know what you are working on!

2 September[edit]

We have reached the half-time point of the Wikipedia to the Moon Working phase.

Since we started in June, roughly 350 new featured articles and lists have been created by the international Wikipedia community and will be sent to the Moon! A big thank you to everyone for their efforts so far!

With 2 months to go, there is still enough space for more featured content! We have contacted Wikipedia-language communities who do not have Featured Articles or Lists to inform them about how they can still contribute to the project and preserve the best Wikipedia articles in their language on the Moon. We‘ve also published an article on the movement blog.

There are still two months left to edit and improve existing Featured Articles, and edit your own personal favourite articles in Wikipedia to Featured Article status. As a reward, your favourite article and your knowledge will be immortalized on the Moon as part of our free knowledge time capsule.

As always, have a look at the Work station and let others know what you are doing below.

17 August[edit]

We’re in week 7 of the “Wikipedia to the Moon” working phase.

This week, we have contacted language communities who do not have featured articles in their language version of Wikipedia. We invited them to compile the very best articles in their language version into a list and tag them in the working station table.

The aim of Wikipedia to the Moon is to send a diverse representation of all languages and knowledge cultures across the globe that make up Wikipedia into space. So please keep up the good work and keep editing and improving your favourite articles to get them featured. You can let us know what you’re working on below.

5 August[edit]

We’re in week 5 of the “Wikipedia to the Moon” working phase.

Since we started the working phase, the number of Featured Articles across all Wikipedia language versions has increased by more than 250!

We have now created a userbox for people who have contributed to Wikipedia to the Moon. Please feel free to share or post the userbox on your profile if you have contributed to Wikipedia to the Moon in any way and let the community know what you are working on. The code for the Wikipedia to the Moon userbox can be found via the link below, or on the Wikipedia to the Moon working page.

Keep up the good work!

WP2M rocket logo.jpgThis user has contributed to Wikipedia to the Moon.


29 July[edit]

We’re in week 4 of the “Wikipedia to the Moon” working phase and have some great news to share:

We now have a bot that will automatically update Featured Articles and Lists as they are tagged in Wikidata. We still need to fix a few bugs, as some languages are still missing, but we are sure that all Featured Articles and Lists will be on here shortly. The page will be updated every Friday morning and can be found here. The page is quite long, so if you are looking for a specific language, please use the links to subheadings which have now been added to the Wikipedia to the Moon Work Station.

There is also an option to include hyperlinks to the individual articles on the "All FA" page. If you would prefer to include hyperlinks to all featured articles and lists on this new overview page, please let us know in the comments.

As always, please keep editing, improving and writing new articles. We are looking forward to the new additions on our new FA overview page next week!

22 July[edit]

We’re in week 3 of the “Wikipedia to the Moon” working phase. Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. Please keep up the good work. We have until 31 October to edit, improve, and select the very best articles of Wikipedia to send them to the moon.

Here’s what happened last week: We talked with our software development team about how the featured articles and lists are going to be extracted from Wikipedia. This will happen with the help of Wikidata. There is a list on Wikidata that includes all articles that are tagged as "featured" and there are the featured articles and list Category pages. We are currently working with the software development team to build a tool that can match these two tags against each other to make sure we extract all featured content. We recommend that you make sure featured articles you've been working on are tagged as such and appear on Wikidata.

We would also like to invite you to share Wikipedia to the Moon with friends and community members across all language communitys. The more people get involved in editing, improving and creating new featured articles and lists, the better.

15 July[edit]

We’re in week 2 of the “Wikipedia to the Moon” working phase. Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. Please keep up the good work. We have until 31 October to edit, improve, and select the very best articles of Wikipedia to send them to the moon.#

Here’s what happened last week: With the help of Wikidata, we have been able to track down most “featured articles” and “featured lists” pages across all language communities of Wikipedia. This information has now been updated in the work station.

In some language communities, these pages are still empty, or the number of featured pages could not be determined due to language barriers. These pages have been highlighted with a red zero (“0”) or a red question mark (“?”) in the work station table.

Now that we have this information, what are the next steps?

  • Please help by updating information on featured-pages where the amount of pages could not be determined
  • If your community’s “featured articles”-count is on zero, or if it doesn’t have a “featured articles” overview page yet, please start collecting excellent articles so that we can take them to the moon
  • There have been questions if we could also take “good” articles on top of “featured” articles along to the Moon, if a community has both. This is difficult for two reasons: (1) because of the limited space, (2) because the winning proposal only suggested “featured” or “excellent” content. The upcoming months should therefore be used to improve these articles so that as many of them as possible gain “featured” status. This is a great opportunity to improve articles in all Wikipedia language communities

8 July[edit]

In the first week, 8 users updated information on featured articles in the work station. Thank you!

If you‘re wondering how you can help: Please have a look at the table on the Wikipedia to the Moon page and help us by filling in all missing „featured articles“- pages. If your language community does not have featured articles, please discuss with your community how you can determine and categorise excellent Wikipedia articles in your language so that we can take them to the moon. If you already have a featured articles list, please keep editing, improving, and writing new articles. Please let everybody know about the progress you‘re making by commenting below.

Good articles[edit]

What about good articles? Is there enough space to include them in the disc? Persian Wikipedia has 116 FAs and 109 GAs. 4nn1l2 (talk) 17:13, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

there is enough space, they just didn't have that as a proposal. JerrySa1 (talk) 19:32, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
There are a few problems with this suggestion: (1) It was not part of the proposal that people voted for, (2) we would have to extend the same curtesy to all language communities, (3) This, in turn, might turn out to be a problem with the space that we have, especially since we have yet to determine if, or how many, images and other files we can take along. Wikipedia to the Moon is meant to be a motivation for all Wikipedia communities to improve, edit, and expand Wikipedia. If you want "good" articles to go to the moon, keep making them better and get them featured. That way, we will definitely take them to the Moon! --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 13:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Makes sense. JerrySa1 (talk) 02:12, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Dennis Schroder because this, hopefully, will be the first time capsule to the Moon. Eventually, missions to the Moon will contain more data. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:37, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Counting amount of GB[edit]

English wikipedia has 4785 FAs, so how are we going to be able to count amounts of GBs? All I have so far is counting one by one using the DYK check tool. JerrySa1 (talk) 17:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

We are working with our software engineers to determine the exact size of the articles both as plain text and including files such as images, videos and sound files. To get all articles to the moon is our first priority. It seems unlikely however, that we can take all images, videos and sound files of these articles too, but we want to take as many of those as well. If you have suggestions how we can determine fairly and representatively which files to take, please leave them here on the talk page. We will update you on this issue as soon as possible. --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 13:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Personally, I believe that a maximum of four images per article are needed, with most having one or two. For biographies, a picture of the person and their most famous accomplishment, etc. The 10-20 most important FAs will have audio recordings inside the disc to fill up space if there is room left over. I believe that that the vital 1 articles should take up this space, even if they are not FAs. I get the main point is to get your favorite articles to FA status, but I hope that at least we send some audio recording. How long will this process take though? JerrySa1 (talk) 17:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
If there is an image in the infobox, then that image should be taken to the Moon. If there is other non-text (logo or song) in the articles' infobox, then that should be taken. I say this because that should be easy to retrieve by a bot (If in infobox, then keep.) without human intervention. Whoever put the non-text into an infobox must have thought that it was more important than the other images. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:34, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Filling the space[edit]

Can we include the images in the FA, if necessary scaled down? The aliens, or rebuilt humanity after the nuclear wars, would benefit by them. 1 picture = 1kb text, more or less, so they say.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:34, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

please see my comments on "Counting amount of GB" and "Audio recordings of FA articles" --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 13:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
See my compromise proposal in the "Counting amount of GB" section. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:38, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

FA[edit]

[1] is there any "specific" advice for WP en, since it is so much?(please answer here or at [2] thanks)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 13:59, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

The advice for the English Wikipedia at this stage is the same as for all other communities who already have featured articles and lists: Please edit and improve articles already on the FA list to make sure their quality is up to the highest standard. If you have a particular article you would like on the moon, improve and edit it in order to qualify it as a featured article. Alternatively, somebody suggested a focus on Vital articles. This is up to you. But the vital articles List might help as a starting point to get an idea of important articles that still need improvement. Some of these articles are already featured, many are not, but are suggested to be edited to a high standard --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 10:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
thank you (am doing Antibiotics from list Vital articles. )--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:36, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Audio recordings of FA articles[edit]

The working page currently says that the disk space needed with images is currently being counted, but what about the spoken Wikipedia recordings of the articles as well? About 1 in 3 featured articles has a recording, and even with the high compression that most recordings use, this will increase the disk space needed considerably (although I believe it should still fit within the 25 GB limit). Tonystewart14 (talk) 09:54, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

As mentioned in a comment above, we are currently trying to figure out this issue and are open to suggestions. We will definitely be sending all the articles to the moon in a text format and then fill up the remaining space with additional files from these articles. Depending on how much space there is left on the disc, there may be several ways to include image, video and sound files. For example: determine a "best of"-list of articles which will include all additional files. Or we could use a hierarchy, i.e.: plain text --> image files --> all other file types. Please feel free to discuss these and other options here. --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 13:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
What about Vital articles? JerrySa1 (talk) 19:38, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
I see that the total image size for all FAs are still being calculated, so we can figure out the total including audio and video after that. If we can ascertain that a 100 GB disk is equally fit to be launched, perhaps we could use that in lieu of a 25 GB one should we need the extra space. Tonystewart14 (talk) 02:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

userbox (or Barnstar) Wikipedia to the Moon[edit]

  • suggestion[3] suggest a userbox (or Barnstar) for those who contributed in any way to this effort as a morale booster...IMO--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 12:09, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
This is a really great idea! I created a userbox featuring our Wikipedia rocket as a logo. Please feel free to share and display the userbox on your profiles! Thank you for the suggestion! --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 09:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
WP2M rocket logo.jpgThis user has contributed to Wikipedia to the Moon.

This is a great userbox. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:25, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

A-Class Articles[edit]

What is the standing of A class articles? Are they going to be sent? Left behind? JerrySa1 (talk) 14:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

A-class articles as a category only exist in 14 Wikipedia language versions and are quite difficult to track even with the help of Wikidata. unlike "good articles" they don't have a corresponding badge by which they can be easily filtered. Unfortunately this means that A class articles will have to go through the featured articles review process and be accepted as FAs in order to be sent to the moon. --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 11:23, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Send only featured articles due to memory space. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Gothic[edit]

Hello, I read about this project and it would be quite cool to include Gothic. I added featured to one of our articles, but it didn't appear on the list here yet. The article is https://got.wikipedia.org/wiki/%F0%90%8D%86%F0%90%8D%82%F0%90%8C%B0%F0%90%8D%85%F0%90%8C%B0%F0%90%8C%BF%F0%90%8D%82%F0%90%8C%B7%F0%90%8D%84%F0%90%8D%83

Bokareis (talk) 00:43, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

That is great, thank you! Please keep editing Gothic Wikipedia articles to a high standard and talk to other community members to create an even greater number of featured articles in Gothic Wikipedia. We would love to take more featured articles from all Wikipedias to the Moon. Thank you for contributing! --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 15:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Any updates?[edit]

This project seems to have fallen dormant for a while. I'm particularly curious how the calculations are going for how much space the articles will take up, including images and other media. Tonystewart14 (talk) 22:42, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

We are aware it is inconvenient for some Wikipedians, but we have been using a Wikipedia to the Moon facebook page created by a Wikipedian to post weekly updates. Fortunately the project is far from dormant. Since the working phase launched, there have been n more than 350ew featured articles and lists added which we will take to the moon. We also recently met up with the PT scientists and they confirmed that they are on track with their preparations. We hope to keep that momentum going for the second half of the working phase. Regarding the size and the ability to take images and media: We are guaranteed to be able to take all articles in plain text and will have some space for images left, but it is very unlikely that we will be able to take all images and media. We are, however, also currently in talks with the PT Scientists about using a disc with more storage space. But as discs with larger volumes haven't been tested in space yet, this decision is up to the PT Scientists. We will update you about this as soon as possible. --Denis Schroeder (WMDE) (talk) 14:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
This idea is not dormant. I have been working to send a version to the Moon since 2014. In August 2016, I mentored a person in China about the data structure of Wikipedia. The thesis will be used as part of w:en:Lunar Mission One's public archive. Geraldshields11 (talk)

Wikipedias in the languages of Russia[edit]

Living in the country with possibly the greatest diversity in its aboriginal cultures, I chose to contribute by making sure all Wikipedias in the languages of Russia/Tables#Active Wikipedias get at least something to the Moon.

I made sure:

  1. they have respective Featured Articles & Featured lists categories.
  2. I went through their existing FA & FL templates and MainPages histories & manually marked their featured content for inclusion into respective categories,
  3. the latter (as well as WP:FA & WP:FL pages) are linked to Wikidata elements
  4. Work Station table reflects their data
  5. all respective village pumps get a timely reminder to translate the Greetings.

Some communities decided to revisit & improve their respective articles, some others discovered they also had other articles worth putting on their MainPage. All of us certainly benefited from getting our categories/pages/templates linked to Wikidata around the time of its 4th birthday.

regards to the team from snow-covered Kazan, --Frhdkazan (talk) 18:58, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

What happened to the project?[edit]

Are we done, or is their still work to be done? JerrySa1 (talk) 15:05, 5 November 2016 (UTC)