User:Simon Villeneuve/Wikimania2017

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Présentation

Matériel pour la présentation How to create a good school project on Wikipedia, donnée le 11 août 2017 de 12h à 12h30 au Centre Sheraton de Montréal.

Plan de la présentation[edit]

  • Introduction
  • Projects I've done
  • Facts
  • School book
  • Discussions

Introduction[edit]

Y a-t-il activité plus intéressante pour quelqu'un en éducation que de participer à la plus grande synthèse du savoir de l'histoire humaine ?

Créer un projet pédagogique visant à construire Wikipédia est une difficile, mais qui en vaut la peine. En effet, il est difficile d'imaginer une activité scolaire étant plus signifiante que de participer à la synthèse du savoir humain.

Projets pédagogiques[edit]

  • I have try school projects in 7 differents courses (2 in university and 5 in cegep)
    • Astronomy
    • Astrophysics
    • History of sciences
    • Evolution of the planet
    • Electromagnetism for metallurgy
    • Strengh of materials
    • Mecanics
Statistics of the university and cegep schools projects (2008-2017)
N[1] Creations[2] Articles[3] Results[4]
337 441 175 23 B (little more than good start), 104 BD (good start), 314 stubs
127 files on Commons,
117 articles on Wikinews
2 books and 8 articles on Wikisource
1 article on the Wiktionary

Facts[edit]

1- Bigger is the wiki, harder it is to create and sustain a school project on it

2- One time = easy. Year after year = hard

  • Clean the place at the end everytime
Ideal
Reality
A short stub is better...
...than a article needing cleanup. Why ? Cause Wikipedians usually don't recycle. They start the article all over again and crush the old version with the new one.

3- Volunteers vs. conscripts = night and day

  • like for every schoolwork, whatever the precision of the instructions given, there's always, always, students who didn't get a clue of what they must do or how they can do it. You can reduce this with step by step descriptions, but you can't eliminate it all.
  • students botch. You must revise all their contributions done in mainspace.
  • Make them work in subpages of useraccount or projects. When the work is too bad, you can let it there without correction.

4- Many wikipedians hate schools projects

  • Eventualism vs. immediatism
  • Treat knowledge as it is finite or infinite
In games without frontiers
War without tears

Manuel[edit]

Échanges[edit]

Post-mortem[edit]

Notes et références[edit]

  1. Number of students.
  2. Number of articles created.
  3. Number of articles on which the students have work more than a month.
  4. Progress evaluated from the French scale of evaluation.
  5. http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1034236/atikamekw-encyclopedie-wikipetia