User talk:Beetstra/Archives 2023

COIBot repeatedly getting logged out of projects

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T325867

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T325869

Hey Beetstra, hope you're well — just letting you know about T325867, and that COIBot seems to be getting repeatedly logged out? — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 03:40, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Oh also, I have requested access to the linkwatcher VPS project in this phab task and would welcome any comments — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 03:48, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

COIBot was logged out of meta and chiming in on irc that it was the case. A soft reboot of the instance just seem to have been totally ineffective as there is now no IRC either. I still haven't figured out my bastion access since they killed the access via the tools bastion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I feel remiss asking if you'd do this without waiting for Beetstra's "OK" (as requested at T325869), but if you're unable to SSH into any of the instances using this guide (or this guide if you use Windows/PuTTY), and deem this urgent enough, you can add me directly using Horizon and I will take a look — this page allows you to "Add Member" (my account name is samtar) — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 20:08, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheresNoTime@Billinghurst I have added Samtar as a projectadmin. You can have a look, but I expect that COIBot has eaten its cookies, so I would need to explain you how to log COIBot back in on the shell (and also explain it for XLinkBot) - it is a matter of running the perl script with a parameter for both, that logs in and stops. Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} (en: U, T) 05:15, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you I've got COIBot back, will do the same for XLinkBot shortly — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 05:45, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheresNoTime Thanks! (I'll better not ask what you hacked to get it done :-) ). Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} (en: U, T) 06:14, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

@TheresNoTime: We are clearly needing someone who has time and capability to assist. I am struggling for time, and the modern updated wikitech is just way above my nonce abilities. I have given you project access to linkwatcher project.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:23, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

<faceplam> you are there as samtar. I have removed the TNT persona that I just added. Since the server actions this week it needs attention. Nothing is present.  — billinghurst sDrewth 07:25, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

COIBot got logged out of meta

Hi Beetstra, it looks like COIBot got logged off from metawiki (last edit dates back to the 4th of January already - this issue is also report when requesting reports on IRC). Could you have a look at this issue if you can? Thank you very much! Daniuu (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Offline

I'm not sure whether this has already been reported somewhere, but COIBot appears to have been offline for a month now. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 08:20, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS

Dear interface administrator,

This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well.

There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed Third-party resources policy aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability.

As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the policy talk page.

Have a great day!

Samuel (WMF), on behalf of the Foundation's Security team 12:08, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Questions regarding COIBot/LiWa3

Hi Beetstra!

I have some questions/bug reports regarding COIBot/LiWa3 and I hope that you (or Billinghurst) could help me:

1. Are link additions monitored after a report is generated manually (poke, IRC, Talk:SBL) and if so for how long?
2. LiWa3 does not seem to record zhwiki link additions at all anymore. Is that a bug or is there another reason?
3. COIBot did not seem to seem to find any URL additions for subdomains after my monitor azurefd.net ... command (azurefd.net is now SBLed). A bug?
4. COIBot does not generate a report forexregulatory.com if I ask it to via IRC or en:User:COIBot/Poke (Diff). whoadded forexregulatory.com does returning additions. I tried a couple of times. I have the same problem with vz99vi.me.

I have read that COIBot and LiWa3 are written in Perl. I have some experience with Perl from a long time ago and would be willing to help in case of bugs. Count Count (talk) 13:37, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@Count Count Hi, some answers:

1) links poked on reporting pages get ‘monitored’ until s.o. removes them (in the report you can see they were reported before). This is defined in the settings on COIBot’s meta settings page. The /poke page is to just get a report, those are not recorded as we needed a mechanism to get report or refresh reports just to see if they are worth reporting. Irc command also does not get recorded (and is rather anonymous so people do not see you are looking at ‘their’ links - also intentional).

2) nope, no reason, may be a bug or a page coding issue.

3) not sure what you mean here.

4) The Report save routine does time out or overload sometimes (that also avoids that it hangs on e.g. youtube.com). Links that are ‘not counted’ or whitelisted on LiWa3 also do not get saved - if they are on those lists the reports would not make sense anyway.

Help is welcome, my time is very limited. Warning though, the coding is bad. Billinghurst, a couple of others or me can give you access. Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} (en: U, T) 04:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

COIBot failing to report on metawiki and enWP

Hi. I see that we are not getting reports written to metawiki and enWP for over a day. Seems to be running fine in IRC. That connectivity piece always defeats me, though I will see what I can shake. Though I am not near connectivity for the bots, so it may be a little while. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:08, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I would be willing to have a look if you or Beetstra can give me access (see above). LDAP/Toolforge user name is Count Count as well. Count Count (talk) 06:49, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Notice of removal of adminship (October 2023)

Hello Beetstra,

I regret to inform you that pursuant to Meta:Administrators/Removal (inactivity), and since you have not made at least 10 edits in the last six months, your administrator and associated permissions have been removed from your account. Please see Meta:Administrators/Removal (inactivity)/October 2023 for details.

Kind regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 12:23, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio I know it is the rule, but this will hinder the sbl script and bot maintenance (their settings are protected). Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} (en: U, T) 04:18, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

It's indeed unfortunate, and the result of an obsolete policy IMHO. I've been trying to persuade the community to get rid of automatic removal or tweak it to apply only on cases of absolute inactivity, but so far people seem happy with the status quo (see the two sections at Meta talk:Administrators/Removal (inactivity) for details). Would interface adminship be enough to be able to edit/manage the blacklists and the bot settings? That permission only requires making 10 edits anywhere each 6 months. Another option would be to apply for an indefinite limited adminship with or without Interface Adminship for blacklists and COIBot management such as the one we approved here. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio, I am rather inactive at the moment so it was predictable. I agree that the policy is crude, but I see the other side of it as well (would have liked a question before at the least so I could respond).
The interface adminship is for the blacklist gadget, but as I am not an admin I will not use that now and not think of improvements or bugs anyway. Adminship for bot settings and blacklisting itself is annoying not to have but I would need to keep it up anyway. Lets see how things evolve with my availability. Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} (en: U, T) 04:21, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Beetstra. An ugly gerrymander way around this roadblock is to remove the protection, and write a very tight abusefilter that solely focuses on the settings page by username and by role. (user Beestra | role administrator). I hate doing it as the rules of the wiki should be intelligent enough to allow a central coordinating wiki to centrally coordinate but instead we have this rule around administrators needing to edit to retain rights.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:30, 30 October 2023 (UTC)