User talk:Jdforrester (WMF)
Visual Editor status update
- The intent is to "finish" development by July 2013 and then move to deploy it for all WMF wikis as the default editor, but as there is a significant level of research involved we may not hit this goal. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
[en] Change to wiki account system and account renaming
Some accounts will soon be renamed due to a technical change that the developer team at Wikimedia are making. More details on Meta.
Are you planning to ramp up the notifications about the rename? Is there any special outreach to the most active editors? Is there a timeline for such things?
I was thinking that
- Some of the most interesting and worth-solving issues (e.g.: whether/when/how to redirect past instances of username; how to break ties; whether to allow users locked in a tie to resolve it amicably rather than randomly) will mainly affect the top 1% of editors
- Other interesting cases will be people who edit regularly but sporadically, and may not see the announcement at all
- Accounts with 0-1 edit are really not in the same boat as the rest, and the rest might benefit from proportionately more attention.
A word of thanks
James, amid the niggles and complaints, the efforts of you and others in the team to develop VisualEditor need to be acknowledged. It's big, big job, fraught with challenges; so congratulations are in order for the trial thus far. Tony (talk) 09:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Tony1: That's very kind of you to say, Tony; I hope that we can continue to live up to your expectations as we make VisualEditor better, together with our editors. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 14:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Re: VisualEditor weekly status update done
I think you might have seen the thanks I sent you on MediaWiki.org (wee! so modern!), but let me repeat this the regular way: thanks so much for taking the time to update the status page for the VisualEditor. It really helps my work on Tech/News and I appreciate your doing this. odder (talk) 20:30, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- Of course! I'm glad they're useful. Hopefully next week's will be much shorter and simpler. Unfortunately I don't think we're likely to have simple, easy-to-understand "new feature: Xyz!" announcements on VisualEditor for the next few weeks, but I hope they're less dense, at least. If you have any thoughts about how I could do them more usefully, please shout! Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 20:35, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Upcoming IdeaLab Events: IEG Proposal Clinics
Request for feedback on my GSoC'14 proposal
I am planning to work on the project titled "Tools for mass migration of legacy translated wiki content" this summer under Google Summer of Code. I have drafted a proposal for the same over the past few weeks. This project is going to help the translation adminstrators like you in a great way, as it would completely automate the tedious manual task of preparing a page for translation and then importing the translations into the Translate extension. You can check the proposal page for detailed information on how I plan to accomplish this.
As you would be an end user of this tool, it would be great if you could go through the proposal and provide feedback/suggestions. Your feedback would definitely help me improve the proposal as well help in creating an even better tool. You can do the same on the discussion page of the proposal or reply here, whichever is convenient for you. I look forward to hearing from you! Thank you!
P.S: I need to submit the proposal to Google by March 19, 2014.
new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData
Hello, would it be possible to activate the new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData in ca-wiki? The mass message said we should contact you. :-) Thanks, and nice work!--Arnaugir (talk) 09:42, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Arnaugir: Absolutely. Have you tried it out on MediaWiki.org? Do you have any feedback? Also, as this is a change that happens to all editors at once, have you discussed this as a community? Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- @Jdforrester (WMF): yes, I proposed it in w:ca:Viquipèdia:La taverna/Ajuda#VisualEditor global newsletter—May 2014 and no objections so far. And yes, I tried it in mw.org :-) works smoothly.--Arnaugir (talk) 09:53, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
German Wikipedia's issue with history import - SUL finalisation
Hi James; in 2013, you answered to a question by Niels at SUL talk - German wikipedia import of history, and though I fear there's nothing that can be done now to fix the issue, I still wanted to ask if you think there might be some way to address this... Indeed it's a fact that German Wikipedia is using Special:Import heavily, has been using it for many years and continues to do so. There's now virtually no article translated from other language versions into German that has not been imported. Many users on German Wikipedia are convinced it's the only correct way to adhere to the license, and though I think the approach widely used on English Wikipedia (without import) is also fine, I also use the feature as it's now the standard way to do things on de-wiki and other approaches are controversial (you might call it "peer pressure" ;-) ). A result of this practice, however, is of course that German Wikipedia has now many contributions attributed to the wrong person - imported edits made by non-SUL accounts of the same name. After import, they show up in the user contributions list and article version history just as edits made by the de-wiki person.
In the discussion mentioned above, you wrote "This is why we have always said that Special:Import should not be used on production wikis until SUL finalisations was undertaken". Apparently, this recommendation hasn't made its way to German Wikipedia, unfortunately. Myself, I have mentioned the issue of wrong attribution through import occasionally there, but the standard practice of importing didn't change. - After SUL finalisation, things might be getting worse with regard to existing misattributions, as Niels wrote, for the imported edits by "ExampleUser" from English Wikipedia will get attributed do "ExampleUser-dewiki", which is even more wrong than the current situation. I realize: German Wikipedia should probably never have used the import feature. But the damage is done. Is there really no way to fix it? It's pure speculation and theory, but... shouldn't it, in theory, be possible to create a script that analyzes all imports that were made in German Wikipedia, checks for user names, and corrects attribution? Gestumblindi (talk) 16:02, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Gestumblindi: It's certainly possible to write such a script, yes. Happily, this kind of clean-up script could be done after the SUL finalisation process is over (so there's no rush), but it would be a lot of work. Maybe if the issue is particularly acute it would make sense. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:18, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply! It's hard to say how big the issue actually is, as there is (I think) no easy way to ascertain how many contributions are affected (the script would find out...). What I can say is that there are a lot of imports on de-WP, so there will be quite a number of misattributions, and I have seen some, but is it "particularly acute"...? Well, I think we can talk about this again after SUL finalisation, indeed. Gestumblindi (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello I am a new user. How cud I have a user page like u? Thanks
- @115ash: Hi! To create a page like mine it's probably easiest to follow this link and then click "Insert", "Template" then type in "user info". You can then add each of the fields you want to fill in, save, and you're done. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 23:39, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
- @Odder: :-) Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/21_May_2014 - can you enable the "Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData" in ru-wiki? It's the only one way to edit TemplateData without scrolling kilometers of code. en:User:NicoV/TemplateDataEditor has not been updated for a long time.Sunpriat (talk) 20:44, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Sunpriat: Hey, yes, that's easy – but normally we ask for people to mention such changes on their wiki first to make sure it's not unexpected. Is that OK? Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 21:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Lam-ang: Unfortunately the author didn't respond – see User talk:Inrawiracham. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 20:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
I have taken the liberty to add four VisualEditor items to this week's issue of Tech News, based on my understanding of their importance and relevance to the average user, as it appears that you had forgotten to do so. Please excuse my pickiness and do feel free to continue adding VE items if you want to have more influence over what information gets featured :-) Thanks, and enjoy the rest of your weekend! odder (talk) 21:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Odder: Sorry, was travelling to London. Thanks for writing some up on my behalf! Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- @Nemo bis: Ha. Thank you. I'd never have thought my little helping was so much of our work; we must expand the pool!
- (Also, I think I'm 4th not 3rd from your link?)
- Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 23:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Special characters in VisualEditor
Hi. You know why it does not recognize the characters we add to MediaWiki:Visualeditor-quick-access-characters.json in eswiki? We use these quotation marks:
« », rather than
“ ” or
" ". I can't edit this namespace. Regards, Jarould (talk) 00:09, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Jarould: In computer code you need to use '
"' characters. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 00:10, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Global CSS/JS migration
Hello Jdforrester (WMF). You have global scripts and styles in User:Jdforrester (WMF)/global.js and User:Jdforrester (WMF)/global.css, which you import using your local CSS/JS pages. Since August 2014, your global.js and global.css pages are loaded automatically on all wikis. Since you already import them yourself, you may experience script errors or tools being added twice. Do you want me to remove the global imports from your local pages using Synchbot (without changing any other content)? —Pathoschild 02:01, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Best person to give Mobile advice
(tl;dr) Who is the best person that the enWS community can approach to get knowledge and assistance with output to mobile format?
At enWS we utilise template headers on many namespaces and that usually contains the WS style, metadata and free text input. As more metadata is readily available with WD storage, which has value to provide with a work, however, it can also crowd out the text of a work, which is obviously the highlight of a presentation. We are needing some guidance on how we can best balance and best present desktop and mobile views. Is there a 'good' person with whom we can discuss this, or is this best pursued by phabricator, or a mix of the two approaches. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:32, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: Hey there. I think the best person would be User:Jkatz (WMF), who leads product for the Reading department (including mobile); he may know which developers are best to whom to speak. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 13:04, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Tireless contributor barnstar
Hello, after our conversation yesterday I realised that I never congratulated with you about your promotion! (I confirm that outside WMF some were certainly confused on why you didn't get it earlier while some did. Mysteries I won't venture into.) More importantly, I award you the
Nemo 18:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
VisualEditor rollout on German Wikipedia
- @Gnom: It is always a pleasure to help. If you need anything, please ask. :-) Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 16:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Nemo bis: I'm sorry, I'm entirely lost. You're the one insisting for years now that it's not worked upon and is EOL; I was reflecting your wishes. Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 15:54, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, some persons have been honest to users and at the same time pragmatic in bug triaging. Please leave them alone. Nemo 17:51, 2 September 2016 (UTC)