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How we will see unregistered users


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When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

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We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Global lock request for Vexedsmug

Only engaged in re-creating self-promoting article en:Susovan Sonu Roy, en:Draft:Susovan Sonu Roy, en:Draft:Susovan Sonu Roy (Actor and Dancer) and en:Susovan Sonu Roy (Actor). See en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Blogs19, en:User_talk:Vexedsmug#Susovan_Sonu_Roy, fr:Article recreate. Also created same article in various wikis like hi:सुशोभन सोनू राय, de:Susovan Sonu Roy, as:সুশোভন সোনু ৰয় etc.

I also informed the same to another steward Sakretsu beside you. Thanks. 2402:3A80:1C42:2225:807C:F8C:2DAD:7952 18:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, my talk page is not a place to request user accounts. This can be requested at SRG (or talk page to that page, since you're not logged in). Thank you. Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry sir I do not have an account and SRG does not permit IPs editing so I informed you here. Please pardon if I have caused problem to you. 2402:3A80:1C42:2225:807C:F8C:2DAD:7952 18:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why my account has been blocked.

Why is my Wikipedia account blocked? 13:57, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please follow the appeal process indicated in the error message you see in your account. I can't help you on my personal talk page, unfortunately. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 20:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Global undo query

Hi Martin, I found your comment in a previous GR permission request, it contains a query result. I wonder if it is possible to share the SQL code with me? Someone would like to build a website to make the analysis of global undo count easier. Thanks! Stang 13:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Stang! Thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I don't have the query available anymore, so I can't share it. The report was generated from the mediawiki_history dataset compiled by the WMF's data engineers. The dataset is publicly available.
If a tool will be created to automatically show those numbers, it'd be awesome. However, I'm not sure if using the same approach as I did is the best idea, as querying mediawiki_history is not going to be the simplest thing to do, since mediawiki_history is quite large (half a TB in total). Querying it with the right resources (a lot of RAM) is reasonably fast and quite convenient, but even with a lot of RAM available, queries tend to take minutes if not hours to complete, and that's not suitable for a web app.
It is probably going to be both easier and faster for users to approach the problem differently: (1) calculate current number of undos for all users across all wikis (2) store the numbers in a database (3) build a bot that will increment the stored counts each time it sees an undo in a wiki's RC ( can be used to watch recent changes at all wikis at once). Querying the undos count will be very fast: just read some rows from the database. It will not be 100% precise (the bot will likely skip some changes and/or count some twice), but overall, it should be quite reliable. A similar approach is employed by the Wikimedia Hashtags tool.
Hope this helps. Martin Urbanec (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hello. I'm blocked from abuse filter in this wiki can you unblock my account? Thank you very much! AlPaD (talk) 18:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'm unblocked. AlPaD (talk) 19:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:52, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Username change on Phab

Hi Martin Urbanec, It is been a long time since my username was changed to "TheAafi" globally. However, I notice that I've not been renamed on Phab wiki. Could you please assist with this? Regards. ─ The Aafī (talk) 11:44, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @TheAafi, you will need to create a ticket in Phabricator, requesting rename: see phab:T260645 as a past example.
Renames on the wiki don't automatically cause a rename in Phabricator and elsewhere. It's a separate user account database, so that's why.
Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I just did that. See phab:T300430. Thanks for responding instantly. ─ The Aafī (talk) 11:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Any time! I see the ticket you filled was handled already. Let me know if I can help in any other way. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Global message delivery automated list is broken


wanted to notify you that the code on the global message delivery page is broken. Take for example, if you try to add a user talkpage here, the entire page blanks out. Same thing is happening with other lists created from these delivery shells. Can you please check it out and try to find out what's wrong? Cheers!--SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Just a ping to this message :).--SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 10:18, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @SOyeyele (WMF), sorry and thanks for the reminder. I tried to add/remove few pages here and I can reproduce the issue. I created a test list in my userspace and I'm going to intentionally leave it broken until this is investigated.
I filled a task in Phabricator, with my own guess about how the bug happens. Let's hope someone can have a look soon! Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:16, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Hopefully, this gets resolved soon.--SOyeyele (WMF) (talk) 12:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hello. Thank you for validating my admin status on, as User:An-tiushpa. Unfortunately, from now on, I cannot log in or access my account, as authentication requires a secure password. My current password is relatively simple and less than 10 characters long. So I agree to change it, but the procedure for "new password" doesn't work because I didn't specify an email address in my preferences. I would like to do it, but I can't access my original account at all. I have just created this secondary account to be able to communicate with you (with an email address filled in), but how can I access my main account again? Thank you for your help or for telling me how to proceed. --An-tiushpa--. An-tiushpa2 (talk) 18:03, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @An-tiushpa2, thanks for the message. I just verified with one of my test accounts what happens if an account with a weak password is promoted to an administrator. In my case, MediaWiki showed this screen and did not allow me to do anything else until I filled a new (stronger) password in the form I screenshotted. I was able to change my password without having an email address on file in that test account.
Does MediaWiki show a similar error message in your case? If it looks the same, what happens when you enter a new (stronger) password there? If you're still logged in, maybe try logging out (or logging in from a different browser)?
Screenshot (or a video) would be helpful for me to better understand what's going on at your end. If you wish, feel free to email screenshots privately to martin.urbanec(_AT_)
Looking forward to your response, Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. It works. I actually didn't realize that this error message would recognize and save a new password, as the explanation of the message was not very clear. So I entered a new, more complicated password (I'll have trouble remembering it, so I'm forced to write it down, which may not be a great guarantee of security after all) and entered an email address. Everything seems to be working properly again. Thank you again for your help and the speed of your reply. An-tiushpa (talk) 18:48, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to hear everything works now!
Security-wise, using a password manager taking care of your passwords is usually a better tradeoff than trying to remember all of them or using a single password everywhere. But, that's of course your call to make -- just saying.
Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 19:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Central Notice

Dear Martin, please have a look at CentralNotice/Request/Wiki Loves Folklore 2022. The contest will start tommorow. --Tiven2240 (talk) 19:10, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Martin, this is the third day the contest is Live yet we haven't got the central notice as requested. This is very much affecting our project. Please support us and our efforts we have made for organizing this project internationally --Tiven2240 (talk) 00:31, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Patrollers group on urwiki

Hi Urbanec, We had reached to consensus last year on Urdu Wikipedia to have a patrollers group. Should I make the guideline pages first or create a phab task first? Looking forward to hear your suggestions. Regards ─ The Aafī (talk) 07:59, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @TheAafi, it's not necessary to have a new guideline to successfully request a new group. Community consensus (preferably, via a voting) is sufficient for that. Sincerely, Martin Urbanec (talk) 15:42, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This section was archived on a request by: ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 04:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Block for Riccardo

Hi, my coadmin Riccardo Riccioni asked me to communicate with you his concern about a block he encounters on one of the 2 connections he can use. I am not very clear what is blocked but hope you can help to clarify. He thinks you set this block.

1. he sent me this notice he saw Reason of the block: no open proxy Time: 3 years My ID Blocked ones: range

2. What is the point about "no open proxy" for swwiki? Is it possible that he as admis blocked using this proxy whereas you as non-admin on swwiki can block him? What I can see in the policy page is that this should not affect him as admin?

I appreciate your comment. Kipala (talk) 15:02, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Kipala, thanks for your message. The block you mention is probably a global one, in this case, issued by myself as a Wikimedia steward. Those blocks apply at all wikis, including sw.wikipedia. For details about global blocks, please see Global blocks. For the justification for open proxies blocks in general, I recommend to read the No open proxies. In short, the global community decided in 2006 that open proxies are frequently abused and may be blocked from editing at any time for any period of time. This isn't a reflection on the wikimedians affected by the block – only at the way they're connecting to the Wikimedia projects.
Admins are not affected by global or local blocks, except when they're applied to their account directly. There's likely no policy about this – this happens because of the default assignment of rights done by MediaWiki. You might see that for yourself by going at sw:Special:ListGroupRights and scrolling to the section for "Administrators", which contains all the rights admins have. One of them is "Bypass IP blocks, auto-blocks and range blocks".
Riccardo Riccioni should not be affected by any open proxy block at sw.wikipedia, as he's an administrator there. He will, however, likely be affected at all the other projects. The IP address,, is assigned to Hosting Services, Inc., a company providing servers for rent rather than residential connections. It seems likely Riccardo Riccioni uses some sort of a VPN – is it possible to disable it while editing? Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 12:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I do not really understand if he can be blocked globally but should not be? I asked Riccardo to try to get thru to you via "Email this user". I think he cannot switch off the proxy, he is our best contributor at the time being but he can only get in thru 2 institutional adresses which he does not run. He has no private access. Kipala (talk) 19:39, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Approval of AdoroniBot

Hello, Could you please approve the bot flag for AdoroniBot in Assamese Wikipedia? The request is available here. Thanks. --chanakyakdas (talk) 09:58, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 5

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Xeno (WMF) (talk) 04:06, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two-step authentication

Hi Martin Urbanec,

I'm DARIO SEVERi, a global sysop.

I lost my phone   a few months ago and I'm not getting the message with the verification code to add in two-step authentication. I am using the 10 keys (16 numbers or letters) that were sent to me to enter the project in case of emergency, I have already used most of them.

Could you please change my phone number so I can get the message? my current number phone number is   before I used   or it is possible sending to me other 10 keys so I can keep editing as sysop?

Sincerely DARIO SEVERI (talk) 13:05, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @DARIO SEVERI, 2FA is not bound to a specific phone number. Instead, it is connected to the specific instance of the 2FA app you use. Depending on the 2FA app you decided to use, it might be possible to restore its state using information provided to you when installing it.
If it doesn't work, you should be able to reset your 2FA status yourself, assuming you're still logged in (and have a nonzero amount of scratch codes left). The recommended workflow is to disable 2FA temporarily (a scratch token 'will be necessary in this process). Immediately after disabling the 2FA, you should be able to re-enable 2FA, which will a) give you a new set of scratch codes b) connect your account with your new phone.
Let me know how this works :). Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Martin Urbanec, I will try tomorrow morning, here in Thailand it's already a little late at night. DARIO SEVERI (talk) 13:21, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Movement Strategy and Governance News – Issue 6

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Thanks for reading. Xeno (WMF) 02:23, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hi! We have been waiting for the import of the right for about a month. Can you help to speed up imports? We have a large number of files that need to be edited. Thanks.--Turkmen talk 20:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Martin, would like to know if this patch is still needed at present - as you commented "to revise on 2020-10-12". Thanks! Stang 19:56, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Stang! Sorry for taking so long. I checked on the private task with the author, but there is no reply. I sent a reminder -- since it's a quite old change (albeit made as an emergency), I don't think it's a good idea to quickly reverse. I'll check in a week or so. Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked editor

Hello, Martin,

It looks like User:Andyyeunguser created the same junk pages and categories on Meta that he did on en.wikipedia. I'm not sure how to tag pages for deletion here but they surely aren't making any contribution to this project. Thanks. Liz (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Liz! Thanks for the message. Pages can be deleted via {{delete}} directly. There's smaller backlog of deletion requests than at ie. enwiki, so we only have a single template Face-smile.svg. Hope this helps! Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:23, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please Lock 𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 09:48, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two-step authentication

Hi Martin Urbanec, I previously wrote to you on April 11th. Today I reset my 2FA status and I tried to re-enable 2FA but I'm not getting it, could you re-enable it for me? The link says I don't have permission [1]. Thanks. DARIO SEVERI (talk) 12:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @DARIO SEVERI, thanks for letting me know! You need to enable 2FA on a project where you have advanced permissions (ie. ptwiki, where you're an admin, or any GS-enabled wiki). Can you please try that and let me know? Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 14:16, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Martin Urbanec, thanks for your advice. It worked out. It was very easy. DARIO SEVERI (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear that! Feel free to let me know if you have any other issues I can help with. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 15:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hello! May I have autopatrolled rights? Thanks in advance. SummerKrut (talk) 19:08, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]