User talk:Seddon (WMF)

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Central Notices in cleanup group[edit]

Hello Seddon (WMF). Would you take a look at the recent notices that are ending up in Category:Pages_using_invalid_self-closed_HTML_tags? I think these are coming from the void input elements containing a closing "/" when they need not. Are these being machine generated? — xaosflux Talk 00:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: - <input/> is a valid self closing HTML5 tag so that shouldn't be causing the issue. Additionally at least several of those pages don't actually contain any self closing tags. So to be frank... I'm not entirely sure that category is accurately being populated but I haven't come across it before. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 01:07, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, think I found some of the problem, other invalid tags such as <p/>. — xaosflux Talk 01:13, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
I Haven't gone though them all some may be coming from included pages as well. — xaosflux Talk 01:16, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
(e.g. a self-closing div element in MediaWiki:WMDE FR2015/Resources/wlightbox.js). — xaosflux Talk 01:16, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
@Xaosflux: - I will flag it up with Wikimedia Deutschland and see if they can update some of the banner code to ensure it's compliant. :) Seddon (WMF) (talk) 01:19, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, there are not too many, I was going to apply for notice-admin just to clean these up, but won't bother for now. Have a nice day. — xaosflux Talk 01:20, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Centralnotice RFAs[edit]

Hi, I saw your edit on [1]. I wonder what the reason behind is. --MF-W 01:05, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Use of sexist language on the banner of the French wiki appealing for gifts[edit]

Hi Joseph, Active on the French wiki, I have received a message of complaint by a reknowned academic linguist in France (copy to the diretor of the equla opportunity office of the UNiversity of Geneva). She is the author of many acclaimed books on the theme of the feminization of title and functions in the French language. Her name is Eliane Viennot, and after giving a conference (pro bono) at the Paris Wikiconvention on non sexist language in French, she noticed that the banner appealing to fund the wikipedia project is declined only in masculine terms. So she will mention this in her classroom (she is a university professor) and she dicided not to donate, as women are not explicitly mentionned in the phrasing. I was told we should adress this kind of questions to you. Probably the message, starting with "Chers lecteurs" (masculine form) would be much better if it started using a neutral form: Cher lectorat A toutes les personnes qui lisent et utilisent Wikipedia Cher public This would not cause an uprow within the people wanting to use the masculine form as a generic form (which it is not) as these wordings are considering "people" as a whole, and not as gendered entities.

If the term "chers lecteurs" is retained, then the least would be to design the women readers with " Chères lectrices".

I hope we will be able to tackle this issue, as it is somenthing crucial in terms of gender bias.

Kind regards,

--Nattes à chat (talk) 06:41, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

@Nattes à chat:. Thank you for relaying this feedback to us. Apologies I didn't reply to your initial message. I didn't have notifications or email notification turned on for en-wiki. You are right that we need to make sure that our banners are as inclusive as possible. Masculine and feminine forms of salutations is an issue in a number of languages and we have been looking at trying to improve in this so your suggestions are much appreciated. I'm just speaking with my team about this issue and I will hopefully have a response soon. Is this the academic you mention?: Seddon (WMF) (talk) 22:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Dear @Seddon (WMF):, thank you for your answer! Yes indeed, it is the academic I mentioned. --Nattes à chat (talk) 19:58, 2 December 2016 (UTC)


Hello Seddon, I'm asking you because you have previously commented on the central notice request linked in the title. Its scheduled start date was 17 November, the conference it promotes takes place on 3 December. Is there something else that needs to be done before it can go live? Can you please help to get it running? I am sorry if this direct request sounds inappropriate, but I don't know how else can I help to push it forward. Thank you, --Blahma (talk) 15:18, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Joseph, for giving us a hand on this! Your help is much appreciated. (I hope I am correct in recognizing that it was indeed you who eventually set up the campaign, because I spent a few days in vain trying to get someone's attention for it before your intervention came.) Regards, --Blahma (talk) 13:29, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


Hi. I've been approached on IRC by Martin Urbanec because the banner has no closing button and it shows permanently. I've tried to add it by adding at the bottom of the code the following:

<div id="cn-toggle-box">
<a href="#" title="Zavřít" onclick="hideBanner();return false;"><img border="0" src="//" alt="Zavřít" /></a>

However it's not correctly possitioned. Can you please add it?

Also, I've fixed (diff) an unclosed DIV tag.

Regards, —MarcoAurelio 12:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: . So the key here is to add the following css:

#{{{banner}}} div#cn-toggle-box {
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
right: 270px;

Hope that's useful. I've made the necessary changes. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 12:44, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the button! --Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:19, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

About Merchandise giveaways/Nominations[edit]

Hello Seddon,

Could you please have a look at Merchandise giveaways/Nominations? There are a few nominations pending. BTW, the page is from time to time targeted by banned accounts... Thank you :-) Litlok (talk) 08:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

I would also ask you to look at this and close the pending cases. Bw --Orland (talk) 07:38, 24 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi. Did you got an email from me dated and sent on Dec. 9, 2016? Regards, —MarcoAurelio 23:06, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Africa site notice / for Algeria[edit]

Hi Seddon,

can you help me to elaborate a site notice (arabic / french ) for algeria (It remains 27 days before the end of the Wiki loves Africa)


--Mohammed Bachounda (talk) 21:01, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey[edit]

  1. This survey is primarily meant to get feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's current work, not long-term strategy.
  2. Legal stuff: No purchase necessary. Must be the age of majority to participate. Sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation located at 149 New Montgomery, San Francisco, CA, USA, 94105. Ends January 31, 2017. Void where prohibited. Click here for contest rules.

stewnoms banner[edit]

I noticed your edit to the stewnoms banner[2] and wondered if you perhaps know a solution how to display this banner to all eligible users. It used to be displayed to all users which caused too many ineligible users to apply, then as a reaction to that the banner has been restricted to local administrators. The issue is, though, that all people who have held adminship on any project for a 3+ months period is eligible, meaning not all current admins are eligible but also not all former admins are ineligible. An eligibility checker for this year is available at [3].
Kind regards, --Vogone (talk) 22:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Merchandise Giveaway[edit]

Greetings from Hindi Wikipedia!

There is a long pending request from Hindi Wikipedia on the merchandise page. Also, the request is based on community consensus. We will appreciate if you please look into it. Umpteen thanks in advance and regards as always. --Muzammil (talk) 19:45, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The Wikimaps User Group has now been officially recognized![edit]

Let's start discussing the goals for our activities on the user group page. See you there! Cheers, Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 10:24, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Uniformed Services (India) Central notice[edit]

Please respond to the comments on this page. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talkmail) 06:16, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Translation typo[edit]

Attention to obvious typos, I've seen "Wikimedia 203" in more than one translation. Where do those translations come from? At any rate, please approve the corrected translation. --Nemo 11:53, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Discussions are archived, not deleted[edit]

Please be careful when you remove discussions.[4] [5] --Nemo 08:54, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

CentralNotice/Calendar archive[edit]

Why did you remove (past) campaigns from the calendar without adding them to the archive? For instance Idea Workshop 2017. Also, all users are encouraged to use the edit summary to explain their edits. --Nemo 09:05, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikimania2017 Registration June banner[edit]

Hey Seddon, I disabled the Wikimania2017_Registration_June banner on iPhone and Android phones since it isn't mobile-friendly and was causing complaints. Feel free to fix and re-enable (or inform whoever should be informed). Kaldari (talk) 19:04, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I also notice that it's missing from CentralNotice/Calendar, please fix. (And I think it should not be enabled for unregistered users.) --Nemo 13:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I see there are more cases of campaigns missing from the calendar: mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2017-August/088365.html. Using the calendar would have helped prevent a blatant mistake which goes counter everything we've learn in years of CentralNotice experience. I hope we can restore some order, the current wild west is concerning. --Nemo 19:47, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm still interested in an answer. --Nemo 16:15, 4 September 2017 (UTC)


Hi joseph. There's a discussion here on your monolingual banner, when you have time. Robin Owain aka Llywelyn2000 (talk) 19:41, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Action for Wiki Loves Uniformed services (India)[edit]

Please see my comments at CentralNotice/Request/Wiki_Loves_Uniformed_Services_(India). Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talkmail) 14:39, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


Hello! Today you launched the Central Notice for WikiConferenceRussia2017_en. Let me emphasize that there is no consensus for placing this banner in English-speaking projects (Russian-speaking projects are OK). It would be good to know if the opinion of the community counts, or central notices are unilaterally decided by someone on Meta. In the case of a unilateral decision, how can it be appealed? Thank you, Alexander (talk) 16:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Now I view English Wikivoyage from Germany and see the banner informing me about the wiki-conference in Russia. This is nothing but spam. Please, stop it immediately! --Alexander (talk) 19:29, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey Alexander. You should not see any banners whilst in Germany. The EN campaign is geolocated to Russia. I am unsure if you use a proxy or perhaps have recently travelled to Russia but I would recommend you clear your cookies on the device you see the banners. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 23:16, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Joseph, thank you for your response. No, I am not using a proxy, so it looks more like a technical glitch. Nevertheless, I would ask you to focus on my first message and stop the banner, which is highly controversial. It is even opposed by the conference organizers who don't like its overlap with Wiki Loves Monuments (running till October 1), don't like advertising the event now before its program is published, and may not be able to accommodate all the participants due to the limited size of the conference room. --Alexander (talk) 06:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey Alexander, Apologies for any delay in responding. As I mentioned to Farhad I'm on leave so responses are a little slower and connection is intermittent. I've disabled the campaigns. There may be some (1 in 1000) sneaking through due to caching problems but this will be a minor issue and should clear up over the next 12 hours. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Joseph! I would also ask you to cross-check the opinion of the community and conference organizers before re-activating the banner. --Alexander (talk) 10:15, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

CentralNotice/Request/2017 Wiki Conference Russia[edit]

Dear Seddon, this is to request activation of three CentralNotice/Request/2017 Wiki Conference Russia related banners via Special:CentralNotice & a non-controversial minor tweak in case of WikiConferenceRussia2017_ru to set for all countries, except Ukraine (per discussion) or otherwise, as appropriate. --Frhdkazan (talk) 15:57, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I am sorry, Frhdkazan, do we have consensus for English-speaking projects? --Alexander (talk) 16:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear Alexander, as no one responded to enWP RfC about having Russia-originating readers see the banner, I assume we do not have objections from enWP community. I've excluded all other wikis in my request. --Frhdkazan (talk) 17:56, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Nemo_bis expressed some concerns too, and the current setup of the Central Notice (for 'WikiConferenceRussia2017_en') includes all English-speaking projects. Moreover, your request does not say anything about three banner campaigns mentioned here. So there is quite a lot of confusion around it. --Alexander (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Dear Alexander, If I understood Federico's comments correctly, his proposal is for all users from Russia (to ruwiki, enwiki, ttwiki & all other spaces) to see the banner text in Russian only (without permission to localize into the local language), which is at least against Wikimedia principles. I requested him to provide explanation & context to support his logic, which otherwise reminds of linguistic imperialism, but haven't seen comments since. --Frhdkazan (talk) 05:55, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Dear Seddon and Frhdkazan! Thanks a lot for WikiConferenceRussia2017 banner! How to learn to do it yourself? — Niklitov (talk) 12:49, 10 October 2017 (UTC) (Wikimedia RU)

2017 Fundraising Campaign in Brazil[edit]

Hello. I would like to share two or three things about the last Fundraising Campaign - August 2017 at the Portuguese Wikipédia, targeting the Brazilian IPs:

  • As far as I know, we at the project were not informed about what was going on. I only noticed something strange was happening by the sudden increase in vandalism targeting the project and the Foundation, and the help requests that started appearing at our HelpDesk about bills, receipts and some fundraising campaign nobody apparently was aware of; consequently, those help requests went unanswered, and I doubt anyone there would know how to answer them, even if we knew about the campaign. I don't know how to answer such things, for sure;
  • Levels of IP vandalism, which were already skyrocketing at the Portuguese Wikipédia, significantly increased during the time of the campaign, with lots of IPs complaining about it writing protests in the articles; the vandalism was specifically against that campaign, complaining, for instance, about a rich organization (WMF) which has the impudence of begging money to poor people facing a severe recession, as are Brazilians right now;
  • Some people misunderstood the campaign, apparently believing they had to pay to get access to the project; others found it so weird, they asked if it was some kind of scam using the WMF name; See here, for instance - "When I access your site I'm receiving a message charging/asking for donations for Wikipedia maintenance. Can you confirm the message really came from you??";
  • In the whole, my impression is that the campaign, as it is, is a RP disaster for Wikimedia/Wikipedia in Brazil, where it already seem to have a very bad reputation, looking at the large amount of vandalism we receive everyday specifically complaining/warning about what they call the bad quality of the project; I and others were also taken by surprise with the increase of IP angerness and rage against the project, not being aware of the campaign going on;
  • I urge you to reflect on all that, and reformulate the present model of the campaign, or even the necessity to beg money in a country facing severe difficulties; I also ask you to please, advice us at VP next time such thing gets going on, so that we can be prepared for the IP reaction against what they clearly perceive as an harassment.

Thanks, --- Darwin Ahoy! 18:05, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

T-shirt giveaway[edit]

Hello :) I've noticed this confirmation. Thank you :) What are the next steps? Emptywords (talk) 18:43, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Merchandising and WSC[edit]

Hi. You are also in charge of merchandising, aren't you? I have this idea, for the Wiki Science Competition, to give a wiki gadget to the best uploader. here is my logic, someone who uploads many (good) files is closer to a real wikimedian per number of edits, so I can thank him or her as real wikimedian, whose edits have a big importance because they are precious and of high quality and very specific to get. Just a little gift to add to the prizes so at least someone is more satisfied and keeps uploading good images. Does it have sense? Plus they are good photographers so they can send good pictures with their gift. We can give it specifically to big uploaders outside the national juries, so they have a dedicated "prize".Any feedback on that?--Alexmar983 (talk) 09:11, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Hey Alexmar983, merchandise awarded through competitions should be sought through the rapid grants scheme. Seddon (WMF) (talk) 12:36, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Good to know, I'll take a look. Thank you.--Alexmar983 (talk) 12:39, 19 November 2017 (UTC)