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Older notes, 2005-2012[edit]

Summarized comments[edit]

Separate simple... ratings scheme offense, IRC defense... black ants! Angela Uueh, Thanks! Sj Hi. improving interlingual ties : interesting and meaningful. I have some new ideas, too... Press Corps 17-yr cicada req. attracted en:User:Lupo, who added some photos. :-) User:Tomos hello :-) bad browser on meta? adding space between caracters. Anthere UTF-8 codes breaking! Please care about it. please. Suisui ugh! And sometimes it adds an "e" at the end of a block of text. And replaces certain international characters with a literal "?" [ :( ] Sj Multilingualism : Something has to be done on multlingual communication on wiki... one of its main powersouces I think. I contacted Arno Lagrange, Anthere. -- MattisManzel

wmf miscellany - jd , August 2006

Communitas and thoughts on Wikipedia interlanguage priorities - user:Quinobi, July 2006

ludism's WikiNode preview in late '06 (NTS)

Fantasy, June 2007, asking about iswiki flagging (for sitenotice editing in '06)

user:Guaka gets a laptop, June 2007

Craig Franklin on a Brisbane bid, February 2008.

KTC statement thanks, and privatemusings talk request, May-June 2008 (UTC)

Mikhailov Kusserow revising a speedydel of userpages, March 2009 (UTC)

What do you think about commons:Commons:Village pump#Russian Copyright Law issues concerning edits in Wikipedia made by Russian citizens?

Hello Sj, this edit is correct? Greetings, 21:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC) (both from someone logged in as me!)

Image license for Wp 4juillet-board.jpg (early 2007, jusjih, pathoschild)

You've got email. Dragons flight, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Quality Assessment tools for readers -AG

Managing translations --Nemo, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Software development transparency: see mw:Development process improvement and comments: 1, 2 which lead to this suggestion; and chat log starting at about 20:34. Cheers, Nemo 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Budget stuff (2005)[edit]

Hey - nice work on organizing this. :) I consider the budget passed today as a second beta budget, the next one will be a full version and I'd like your help beforehand in putting it together (need to start work on this early in March).

Some notes: We did not have enough money for a reserve this time (other than just saying that anything we take in that is over $75K is the reserve), but all the board members present indicated that this is very important and should be a budget item in the next budget. Your idea of 3 months' operations expenses is the standard recommended amount by GAAP for non-profits, so that is what I'm going to push for but it will likely not be that large until the end of the year. My proposed budget had $20K for special projects (such as outreach, WikiReaders, yada yada, Mother Teresa-type stuff, etc), but that was tied to being half of the Lounsbery grant. In the meeting I found out that that money was marked for 'physical expenses during quarter 1 2005', which wiped the special projects item (the $0 item). Once again, great work and I look forward to working with you. --Daniel Mayer 06:22, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

PS - If you are interested, IRC is a good place for us to work together. #wikimedia is the logical choice so long as it stays fairly quite. I'd also like us to eventually form a real finance committee with at least one board member being an active participant (Anthere seems to be obvious choice). A way to logically coordinate what is put on meta and what goes on the foundation wiki also needs to be worked out. We also need to draft a contract for Brion and maybe for Chad. Sensitive stuff like contract development may need to happen on the grants wiki. --Daniel Mayer

Wikimedia budget/2005/Q4
Any help, esp on the detail pages, would be greatly appreciated. :) --Daniel Mayer 00:04, 19 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Quarto[edit]

Hi Sj, is Wikimedia Quarto still active? If not, I am thinking about a reviving, how do you think of it?--Wing 08:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

I think you speak of two very critical points. The one is recruiting authors, the other is translating. How was these done in the past? On the authoring side I am thinking of invite people write articles, and I would also accept people write articles in their own language and try to find translators to do the translation for them. How do you think of this?--Wing 13:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
It has been dormant, but I think the need for something like it across the projects has only grown over time. I would love to spend some time recruiting new authors and translators, showing them how we produced that sort of visual newsletter without too much trouble. +sj | help with translation |+
Replies on your talk page . +sj | help with translation |+

Wikizine move[edit]

Sj, if you wish to move all Wikizine editons to Meta, many are there already, look at this, and all others are in a simmilar form at the wikizine wiki. All editions must be somewhere in the "construction-layout". --Walter 12:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Super, thanks. It's on my weekend plan while in Chicago :) I commented it out until I have time to work through the list. -- sj | help translate |+ 20:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)Reply


Translation offer[edit]

You probably have enough people already, but if you ever need help here on Meta translating between English and German (in either direction), drop me a note on en.wikipedia. Cheers, --Goodmorningworld 19:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Just so you know, we're not ignoring you... Alex and I are just thinking about it. ;-) A quick question though, does it just have to be "technical improvements" (as in related to technology)? Cbrown1023 talk 22:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Not at all. most tech solutions have social equivalents and vice-versa. I think some of the most telling changes would be social. Simply stating there are core languages that should be considered equal for the purposes of a main jumping-off point for localization, or a canonical document about the Projects, would be a significant change for language issues. Or conversely, the proposed explicit statement that all strategic planning be done in English will define how groups are formed and discussions started. For outreach, wiki and social issues about where presentations (or conference papers) are shared and archived, where event calendars are posted and updated, & how requests to talk are shared are all relevant. -- sj | help translate |+ 23:11, 20 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Re: New languages[edit]

At the very least, you could bring up the topic at the English Wikipedia's village pump. But before any change can take place, we need to involve a very broad swath of the Wikimedia community.

We could conduct a poll similar to the various logo selection processes. Each of the Wikipedia editions would have to carry a visible notice about the poll, because the portal is by far the most visible of Wikimedia's webpages, and every language (at least the 100+ languages) would be affected to some extent. And of course, we can add a little blurb on the portal itself, maybe just below the search bar. Ideally, we'd involve the translation community here; visitors from non-English projects may feel left out of the decision if we allow most of the discussion to take place in only English.

So far, the only serious proposals I know of are Catherine's current design and Forseti's. We should expect a good deal of support for the current design, so we'll have to make a good case for changing it (internationalization, expandability, newer is better, etc.). We also need to make clear the new design's requirements, based on our experience as admins having to maintain the portal regularly. For example, we can't just say that every language with over 100,000 articles gets to be at the top, unless we have some way of accommodating 15 or 20 languages up there, even on lower-resolution screens. (Because we should expect the new design to last awhile.) We also need to keep an eye on page size, load time, and accessibility. So although a clickable Flash map of the world would be a cool way to select a language, we really can't use it.

By involving the wider community in designing the portal, the portal will seem like less of a temporary hack (which it is currently), and maybe the developers will finally get around to fixing bugs like 4501, 1534, 15518, and 15758. We could really excite volunteer designers with a well-publicized poll.

 – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 06:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

It's certainly a long-term discussion. And strange that only those two proposals have been considered seriously -- this is a famous and highly visible page! Now that Jack and others are actively working on improving the page, it seems like a good time to get new designers involved. Thanks for highlighting those related bugs; I've been trying to gather important bugs for various long-term projects, since we don't have a unified set of priorities at the moment (or even a list of a hundred different clusters of priorities belonging to different groups).
Before any large poll is started, existing discussions about the portal should be consolidated -- they are hard to follow, especially for someone coming in fresh. The odd naming convention for the portal pages doesn't help. We need to convert something like Initiatives into a meta-equivalent of w:Wikipedia:Wikiprojects, and organize a discussion there - that is something that visitors from large wikipedias might be more comfortable with. -- sj | help translate |+ 06:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
Actually, the poll that decided the current design was between Catherine's design and a temporary design that really no one liked. [1] (It looked something like the current "Wiki does not exist" error page.) Unfortunately, Forseti introduced his design just a bit too late for the majority of voters to take notice, and efforts to merge the two designs as a compromise never resulted in much change. Forseti's design did get reused for some Toolserver tools and the old server downtime message.
But none of these designs really did anything about the severe usability issue of choosing between hundreds of languages. Plenty of websites feature a language selection page upfront, but Wikipedia's the only site I know of that suffers from the issue to that extent. Even a clickable Flash world map wouldn't work for us, because of geopolitical issues and the sheer number of minority languages represented here. So not only do we need designers to step up, but we also need to engage usability experts. WikiProject Usability at the English Wikipedia might have some professional usability/HCI contacts who might be of help in creating a new proposal.
 – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 06:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Things of beauty[edit]

Things of beauty or things that make you smile? Perfect. :-) What a wonderful question. I'm going to use that often. --Philippe 02:05, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Fundraising booklet: frdisc

I herd you like quotes! you should send that to comcom; v. useful.

Sent! SJ talk | translate   17:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)Reply


Strategy Wiki[edit]

Hi SJ,

I'm Serita Cox, a member of the strategy development project team, and project manager from Bridgespan. Tyler forwarded me your message as it expanded beyond her area of focus (Content stub) into process and I wanted to respond to the entirety of your posting.

First, thank you so much for your input, it is greatly appreciated. To answer your questions: 1- Process. Yes, the project team has now thought through the process sufficiently that we have identified activities, roles, timelines, and deliverables for the entire strategy development process and are looking to post them for Community input this coming week. We wanted the Community to have something logical to react to, but given your comment re: Content/Quality stub being "too polished" I worry we might get similar reactions to posting the process. It is a fine balance to strike between giving the Community some starting point and appearing too set/decided. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated on how to hit this right balance.

2- Your message around editing the Content/Quality stub couldn't have been more timely. I had that very day raised the concern that these stubs were not getting the kind of traction we were hoping in terms of views, edits, inputs, comments. Clearly, they are sub-optimal in engaging the Community. Their purpose is to provide a place to start collating and analyzing data around Content/Quality, Participation, Reach so that the Community Task Forces set-up in Phase II have a starting point to begin analyzing and defining potential strategic opportunities and priorities for expanding reach, expanding content, improving quality and expanding participation. It is true that the Bridgespan-side of the team is tasked with providing the first development and subsequent synthesis of these fact bases which is why you see large postings, but again, it would be very helpful to us to get your thoughts and input on how we can clarify the purpose of these fact bases, the continuous "work in progress" nature of these fact bases, and how best to frame/layout these fact bases for maximum Community engagement.

I would really appreciate any feedback you can give us regarding our transparency of process, clarity of purpose, and desired engagement with the Community. You can reach me via my User page http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Serita

Thanks, Serita

Hi, Serita -- I responded on stratwiki. I'll get over my concerns about founding a new wiki one I have a process for synching it with meta... -- sj · translate · + 15:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Future of Wikimedia Workshop[edit]

Rich Farmbrough 21:01 14 July 2012 (GMT).

Policies, namespaces[edit]

Would love to have your take on this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Namespace_for_Iberocoop_in_Meta . Cheers, notafish }<';> 22:56, 19 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Local uploads policy[edit]

Hello, I'd like to hear your opinion here. I'm happy to see that the board is engaging in community discussion more (as in the proposals for new projects) and I think this issue is worth such an effort as well, with some sort of support from the board, as the board's licensing policy is completely ignored on most projects. Frankly, we've seen many resolutions with negligible impact (as with BLP and Openness), but this seems a good area for the board to start making its own resolutions effective. Thanks, Nemo 12:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)Reply


As you may be aware there have been significant governance issues on en: concerning Arbcom, checkusers and the Audit Subcommittee at least.

Only for the abuse of checkuser is there an offical path of escalation, in the form of the ombudsmen. It appears, however, that this group is moribund, therefore there are no apparent constraints on the abuse of power on en:.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Penyulap#Update for more details.

All the best, Rich Farmbrough 15:23 16 December 2012 (GMT).

Thanks for the note. I'll look into it next week. Less moribund than in need of a public noticeboard that registers when new requests are made at least... so it seems to me.
Also, I could use some pointers on bot manipulation... I have a batch of 6000 pronunciation files I'd like to post to WikiData and add to appropriate en:wp articles, and I'd like to learn how to do it properly myself :) SJ talk  03:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
That would have to be very carefully done. For example editors are complaining about Arbcom releasing their personal information supplied in confidence, adding this to a public noticeboard would be to further publicise the leaked information. In this case the editor was completely open about his alternative accounts, and chose to post the complaint on his user page in the spirit of openness. Not all complaints will be so open. Moreover complaints can be made about abuse of process which involve third parties who have a right to privacy.
There are additional questions coming to the fore, concerning freedom of information and whistle-blowing - these might be worth having in the back of ones mind over the coming weeks and months.
Hit me up when you are ready to do some work with the pronunciation files.
Rich Farmbrough 11:24 17 December 2012 (GMT).
I think "registers when new requests are made" is sufficient. It doesn't need to say who made the request, or who received it, or what it was about. It's enough if every request gets a single public pip, and someone from the commission replies to each and says "being handled" or some such to ensure it hasn't fallen through the cracks. The noticeboard mechanism could add "noise" of a few days to avoid people correlating requests to some specific on-wiki event, if that matters. SJ talk  17:55, 17 December 2012 (UTC)Reply
Yes that sounds like a suitable idea. I think the details of each case should be as open as possible, but cannot be pre-judged. Entries like:
  • Case 1234 based on email received (MD5 checksum xxxx), responsible ombudsman Joe Blogss, opened 00:48, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
and also updates to status. Rich Farmbrough 00:48 19 December 2012 (GMT).

Purpose of wmf:Home[edit]

You may be interested: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foundation_wiki_feedback&oldid=4865819#Purpose_of_wmf:Home>. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:19, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hi. Request for an account on the Foundation wiki/header lists the current requirements for obtaining an account on wikimediafoundation.org. Perhaps you could amend the rules appropriately? I think your edits will hold more weight than mine. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

+1, tell me what you think. Other specific suggestions? SJ talk 
Thank you. Your edits look good to me. Now it's just a matter of recruitment. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 17:42, 2 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

Links you may be interested in:

I'm seeing a lot of needless resistance lately. :-/ --MZMcBride (talk) 06:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's interesting, I see useful progress, particularly on publishing legal docs - much more than last year. Your being testy on wmfwiki isn't helping, I think. SJ talk  15:50, 26 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Probably not. I'm annoyed at the mess (uncategorized, out-of-date, and obsolete pages), which I'm now working to clean up. The annoyance gets compounded when, while I'm in the middle of trying to clean up, someone comes along and tries to take ownership of the wiki (or just its main page, I suppose). It isn't Jay's wiki or the Wikimedia Foundation communications department's wiki, as Philippe and others seem to keep casually suggesting. (And frankly, I'm not sure why Jay or anyone else would want to claim ownership for a wiki that's been overrun by outdated, un-curated, and uncategorized content.)

Thank you for the edits to Legal docs. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 04:47, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I'm very happy you're cleaning up there; thank you. I think it's just questions about the main page that people are worried about. (This happens to all sites, community wikis and foundation wikis and grassroots org websites... it's one of those shed-painting issues: it's a question that affects many people's casual daily experience, everyone has an opinion, both about design and about who should determine it, and there's no obvious way to choose among conflicting opinions.) Though setting a reasonable admin and access poilcy is a broader question. Warmly, SJ talk  20:06, 27 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia exit interview ← I'm trying to tread lightly. I asked Jan-Bart what he thought.

User talk:Jan-Bart is indefinitely semi-protected. :-/

I've created Legal protection, as I think the "word of caution" section in particular isn't well documented. --MZMcBride (talk) 14:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)Reply


dear Sj, I read you created a poster page here on meta quite a long time ago. I also read that posters where part of the submissions for Wikimania in different years. I think now is really a needed format since there is a multiplication of education projects, GLAMs experiences, Wikimedia chapters and affiliates and tools, which is difficult to track. Posters can provide simple and short overview, a link to get further documentation and the chance to cross experiences we didn't know about jet. I would like to prepare some posters for the GLAM exhibition and event in Lugano 2014 I'm working for (by Spring 2014) and i think the posters can also be great to reduce the number of panels at Wikimania (it is related to the bidding we are submitting for 2015). Still interested in it? can you provide some hints? can you maybe suggest people I should contact? can we resurrect the poster page? I think Wikimedia chapters and people promoting projects can be willing to help in making some of them but i wanted to see if i can get a graphic design to make the template to assure a nice level of visual satisfaction (sic). thanks, --iopensa (talk) 16:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Beautiful idea. I would contact the current Program Chair for Wikimania 2014, and the wikimania mailing list to discuss it for future years. SJ talk  17:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Done. --iopensa (talk) 11:49, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Croatian Wikipedia evidence pages[edit]

Hello Sj! GregorB suggested I should contact you for advice. Back in September 2013 he & I have started the pages for gathering information about alleged irregularities on Croatian Wikipedia ("evidence pages", in short). The pages have benefited greatly from GregorB's experience & judgement but he has since semi-retired, and I'm left as the only fully committed Wikipedian managing the pages. While I am quite confident I can see the process through, another pair of experienced eyes that could spare even partial attention to it would be immensely helpful.

What remains to be done is unlikely to be very involved. After a sufficient period of time for comments and late submissions (currently being decided, likely 30 days), the evidence pages need to be closed for good and archived. I am not expecting much traffic during this time, in part because the saga has been going on since last autumn and fatigue has set in on many sides.

I'd very much appreciate any advice or assistance in managing the process in the remaining time it's active.

Many thanks! Miranche (talk) 04:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Miranche, I am still thinking about this. Clearly it is an important sort of problem to address. And something that the stewards may be in the best place to evaluate. I am trying to understand how current stewards feel about the issue, so that we can set expectations about how we can collectively respond to it and future issues like it. SJ talk  22:23, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Proposal to create a genealogy wiki using Wikidata[edit]

I recently added some comments proposing to create a new genealogy-oriented wiki on top of Wikidata that I hope to get your input on if you have time. Thanks.--Dallan (talk) 00:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia genealogy project[edit]

Please visit this page if you wish to contribute to a centralized discussion about a Wikimedia genealogy project. Thank you! --Another Believer (talk) 19:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)Reply


Global checkuser policy and the board[edit]

Hello Sj,

As you might have known, ever since login.wikimedia was created, the stewards have been using it as a sort of global checkuser platform. After a discussion a few months back, some stewards even leave their checkuser bit on permanently there, compensating for this by logging every CU action that is done here. With this in mind, and the fact that when SUL finalization is completed there will be the potential for a global checkuser extension, I think it is about time that the 9 year old checkuser policy should reflect the current reality. Right now, it says that only Ombudsmen have global checkuser access, but it's talking about something completely different - at the advent of the policy, nobody was planning for the ability to be able to check from a centralized location (loginwiki now, meta if an extension is ever made), so to them "global" meant checkuser access individually on all wikis with no centralized accountability. We compensate for this with the above-mentioned loginwiki statistics page.

Given that the checkuser policy is something which derives its legitimacy from the board, I thought I'd come to you about this first. I imagine some sort of global vote might be necessary to update the policy, but I'd like to hear what the board has to say first, if you would be able to bring it up with them.

Thanks, Ajraddatz (talk) 17:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

A fine point. Yes, this is different from what was once imagined. Do you have a proposed revision to the CU policy in mind? I'd like to see the next update to that policy come from the community, with legal support from the group that works on the privacy policy (currently, that is staff w/ community input). SJ talk  07:15, 25 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the slow reply, been busy IRL. I do have an idea of what I'd like to see, but nothing in writing as of yet. I think that a global checkuser would be acceptable with a centralized log and published statistics, so that people could see who was doing what. I could get to work on a proposal I suppose. Ajraddatz (talk) 05:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
this would be a good step. You might ping the other stewards to work on it with you, and perhaps file a bug against it so developers are thinking about the problem as well.SJ talk  19:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
An actual global checkuser tool is something off in the future after SUL finalization. For now, the policy could consider a loginwiki check to be a global check, since essentially it is. I'll start writing one on a subpage of the checkuser policy. Ajraddatz (talk) 20:20, 3 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ajraddatz, what are your thoughts on this now? SJ talk  18:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

User group affiliation rules[edit]

Sj, concerning your email to the WM-l, yes, it looks like the "history of projects" was inappropriate. In the other temporal direction, did the board have in mind that a user group might be a temporary thing, perhaps created just for one large event? (That would be unfortunate, in my reckoning, but perhaps hard to legislate against.) Tony (talk) 03:50, 31 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Yes, the restriction needs to be removed. At the time there was probably a fear of a sudden flood of requests, but by now things got stable, better make things simpler. --Nemo 06:03, 31 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Not for one event, no. But over time, just as wikiprojects come and go, it was expected that user groups would form and dissipate. A group focused on a single major project, like the importing of the 1 million images released by the British Library and related partnerships with Flickr and other importers, would make sense and might only last a couple of years. SJ talk  06:43, 31 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Right, no need to concern the possibility of trivial temporariness; and AffCom would probably pick that up anyway and ask probing questions as to the need for affiliation in that case. Tony (talk) 08:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC)Reply
Sj, I've been taking a look at the affiliation models for user groups, thorgs, and chapters. They need a revamp, in my view; there's copy-edit stuff, to harmonise the three pages; there's probably uncontroversial harmonisation by inserting/removing whole points; and there might be a few issues that need higher-level discussion.

One thing troubles me for which I lack insights to form a view: "Minimum rights" include "Simplified access to grants", for chapters and user groups (strangely, not thorgs). But what does "simplified" mean in this context? Tony (talk) 05:00, 1 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Simplified: grant reviews should be based on a few metrics: trust; capacity for work; and quality of proposal. Affiliation, by virtue of organizing metadata about an organization and providing a template for sharing its work, should reduce the time it takes to assess trust and capacity, simplifying the process. SJ talk  23:31, 2 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Samuel, thanks for explaining. It's rather opaque, I think; perhaps it needs to be spelled out where used, or reframed? Tony (talk) 08:07, 3 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Strategy II[edit]

Thank for the invitation, sorry for the delay. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 17:29, 12 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

You're welcome Ad, hope to see your thinking there :) SJ talk  08:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)Reply


Good day, I have rewritten and completed the Wikilang proposal page. Could you give it a look and tell us what else does it need? Thanks, Amqui (talk) 04:44, 10 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

Clarification on new terms of use clause needed on Commons[edit]

Hello Sj, could you and perhaps other members of the Board of Trustees perhaps comment at c:Commons:Requests for comment/Alternative paid contribution disclosure policy, specifically to clarify the Board's intentions wrt my concern in c:Special:Diff/126802777? I'm sure many people on Commons would appreciate your input, thanks. darkweasel94 (talk) 19:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hello, there was further discussion there to clarify; I hope the result was clear. SJ talk  00:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Delphic images[edit]

Lieber Samuel, danke für die Nachricht!

Das letzte Mal hat "User talk:Delphico" 21 October 2010 geschrieben: "The International Delphic Council granted the permission for the following files in wikimedia: Competition Baguio 2007.gif Parade jeju 2009.gif Castalia spring Delphi.jpg Delphico (talk)". Ich glaube er könnte das Gesagte bestätigen auch für alle andere "images uploaded by User:Delphico", weil viele davon stehen auch auf IDC-webseite und IDC-facebook.

Ich kann nur die Nachricht (für Delphico) weiterleiten an die officielle Adresse E-Mail: mail@delphic.org. Und zusätzlich an: jcb.kirsch@delphic.org - siehe hier: Get in touch.

Deswegen bitte ich um Aufschub! Sonst kann ich nicht helfen. Danke im Voraus! --DarDar (talk) 09:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Vielen dank DarDar, delphic.org fragen ist eine gute Idee. SJ talk  17:06, 28 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ein großes Dankeschön für die Hilfe hier ! Hoffentlich wird das alles bald völlig geklärt... --DarDar (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2014 (UTC)Reply
Leider sind noch viele images gelöscht. Gestern war 90, heute nur 62 in Category:International Delphic Council. Jemand ist sehr ungeduldig... --DarDar (talk) 08:07, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Hm. I regret I couldn't save them from deletion. I don't know how to prevent such bulk deletion other than having a better scratch space where well-categorized uploads are always welcome and this sort of behavior is not allowed. In this case, the archiveteam may be able to help (though it may be too small an effort for them) SJ talk  02:06, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply


this is old clutter. But make u aware of my newest entry there. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sj/strategy --Angel54 5 (talk) 12:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. SJ talk  05:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I was gonna say that![edit]

I presume you are familiar with - Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion. Rich Farmbrough 05:10 10 August 2014 (GMT).

Yes :)

An ugh moment[edit]

Gday Sj. Had meant to catch you for more than that brief moment at WM2014 when the stewards were hanging out, however, out paths didn't seem to cross. Or that was actually, was how it seemed, then I am told recently that I was sitting near you after breakfast on the Monday morning. If you thought that I was being unsociable, then my apologies, but I didn't have my glasses on, and couldn't see [redacted]. So <ugh> and maybe at another time I will get that chance to chat.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

billinghurst Indeed! You were quite sociable; wikimania is often full of brief moments, and it was good to see you. Let's chat sometime, if only via the magic of the wiki. (belatedly) SJ talk  00:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

An important message about renaming users[edit]

Dear Sj,

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Keegan. SJ talk 

InterWiki Project file Move[edit]

When I was at Wikipedia, one of my entries entitled, "Phosphate reaction", was deleted among many. Most of the others are not difficult for me to regenerate at Wikiversity from my copies, but this particular one had a lot of work put into it and the regeneration at Wikiversity would be an enormous undertaking. Is there a way to move the deleted file to Wikiversity so that I can continue working on it? Marshallsumter (talk) 00:06, 25 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Marshall, Sj is, among other things, an en.wp sysop and any en.wp sysop can provide you with a page. If he is not willing, you may ask any en.wp sysop, you have email enabled there, and this may be better done by email anyway.
Sj, Marshall, if you don't recall the case, was banned from en.wikipedia in 2011 for "massive copyright violations." He had done a great deal of work, and from what I saw, had made large numbers of small quotations, possibly legitimate under fair use. He was never warned. When he came to Wikiversity, and started creating similar content, he responded to warnings. He has never been disruptive on Wikiversity, and is now a probationary custodian there. If he is emailed an export of the page, he could import it there easily. I'd suggest exporting the entire page history, so that all edits are acknowledged in the import. --Abd (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Marshall, see your wv talk page. SJ talk  22:07, 27 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks! --Marshallsumter (talk) 23:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Invitation to the CentralNotice-admins list[edit]

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Fundraising Tech, Wikimedia Foundation

Nice. Thanks Awight (WMF). SJ talk 

Research:Measuring value-added[edit]

Made me think of what you said the other day about over-reliance on editcount. --Nemo 15:59, 14 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, I'd heard about this but hadn't seen the page. Relevant indeed. SJ talk 

Happy new year 2015![edit]

Happy New Year 2015 Happy New Year to you Dear Sj --Grind24 (talk) 23:26, 31 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Grind~ SJ talk  09:38, 6 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Board meetings (and findability on wiki)[edit]

Hi SJ, thank you for the updates on the board meetings you posted last Friday. I have to say, I'm having a terrible time finding the agenda, minutes, resolutions, and even schedule of the board meetings on any wiki. Things seem to be spread out over meta, the Foundation wiki, and possibly the board wiki, and it's extremely difficult to find if things are just out of date, if they will still be added, etc. Is there anything I can do to help with keeping this updated? I would love to see WMF Board meetings extended with scheduled upcoming meetings, links to minutes and links to resolutions passed in the meeting, redlinked if they're not available yet, but I'm not sure how I should be going forward. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:59, 9 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, @Martijn Hoekstra:. I agree this should be less spread out. Your help would be welcome. A few things off the top of my head:
  • The meetings page could perhaps use linking from other pages. The more people who add links where they expected to find one, the easier it will be to find. You could help with this.
  • We should keep redlinked lists of the coming year's meetings once they are known.
  • Once minutes are approved the secretary posts them to the Meetings page on the wmf wiki. At least a link to the minutes should be added here at the same time. That way it shows up in Meta's RC, and there is a version one can discuss or transclude.
  • A draft agenda should be posted here on Meta a week in advance of the meeting.
I'll see if our secretary can start doing the last three, but feel free to ping me if that isn't happening by our next monthly meeting (in March: we started short monthly online meetings last quarter).
SJ talk  10:04, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
If the last three are taken care of, I think the first one will be OK as well: I wasn't sure meetings was the right place for the things I was looking for, because the content wasn't there. Once it is, at least you know when you found it and can stop looking. From now on, I'll add links from places where I expect them to be, but since I now know where to find things, I'm not expecting them in the wrong places anymore. I might still stumble across a few of them though. Being a Wikipedian, I immediately think of navboxes. If everything works with a set format, I could make some navigation templates that would only take the date of that meeting, of the previous meeting and the next meeting as arguments. Would that be helpful at all? For example, a navbox for the minutes of the Feb 6 meeting would have links to the agenda, and to its resolutions, a back and forward link to the minutes of the previous meeting and next meeting, and an uplink to the meetings page. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
I like that idea. A little set of navboxes for each quarter, one quarter per section? SJ talk  18:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
I did a quick mockup here. Who should I reach out to for a convention on locations for resolutions by meeting (is that useful/needed) and minutes? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:48, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Let's define the convention as being two sections on one page: Agenda at the top, minutes at #Minutes. Still have to get them migrated... SJ talk  22:09, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I thought we would keep separate agenda and minutes pages, but this is fine too, keeping everything together - the downside being less visibility of minutes redlinks, which I'm still concerned about - the foundation wiki is hopelessly out of date too; https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Meetings is still missing the Jan and Feb meeting - but I'm not sure if the reminding effect of a redlink is strong enough to help with minutes being posted. So we'll have the convention board meetings/yyyy-mm-dd as we have now, and that page will hold agenda, minutes, and links to the approved resolutions plus like you said a navigational thingy for all meetings in the quarter (is this useful?) and an uplink to meetings. Is the Q3 A.K.A Q1 full meeting schedule known yet? Should we have redlinks for the meetings which have not yet been scheduled in the quarter, or should we wait with that until we actually know the dates of the meetings? Also pinging PeteForsyth Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:07, 24 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi Martijn Hoekstra, glad to know you are interested in working on this. I put some work into organizing these on the Foundation Wiki a while back. My focus was more on specific resolutions than on specific meetings, but both are important and closely related. See these categories I created and populated: wmf:Category:Resolutions by year and wmf:Category:Resolutions by type (obviously, lots left to do). It is time consuming work, but I think it's in the interests of all Wikimedia stakeholders to have this stuff well organized so that it can be found. It seems to me that we would be better off if the organizing activity were on Meta, rather than on the WMF wiki -- for a number of reasons, the main ones being that (1) there would be a lower bar to helping out (no need to apply for a WMF wiki account), and (2) there would be obvious talk pages to absorb any slowly evolving discussions on specific resolutions.

If you'd like, I'd be happy to help hash out a plan on how to establish needed infrastructure here on Meta to make this work smoothly. Let me know. -Pete F (talk) 23:07, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

I would, thanks Pete. Should we re-convene elsewhere so we don't polute Sj's talkpage too much? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply


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Thank you for using VisualEditor and sharing your ideas with the developers. My apologies if you're getting this message more than once, and/or not in your favorite language.

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I am contacting you because you have left feedback about VisualEditor at pages like mw:VisualEditor/Feedback in the past. The Editing team is now asking for your help with VisualEditor. Please tell them what they need to change to make VisualEditor work well for you. The team has a list of top-priority problems, but they also want to hear about small problems. These problems may make editing less fun, take too much of your time, or be as annoying as a paper cut. The Editing team wants to hear about and try to fix these small things, too. 

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Please fill out our Inspire campaign survey[edit]

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WMF board resolution on user rights process[edit]

Please urgently get this topic/resolution scheduled for a meeting, discussed and voted; and express your opinions on the noticeboard. Thanks for your work, Nemo 20:57, 8 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Commented there. Thank you for wording your idea so that it's broadly useful many years into the future. SJ talk  18:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for looking into it, Nemo 18:50, 13 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Signpost inquiry[edit]

Hi, I've emailed you. Thanks. Tony (talk) 01:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC) Samuel, we need to finalise the responses before the end of today, US eastern time. Did you receive the email? Tony (talk) 03:44, 13 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, Tony. Good luck with your analysis. SJ talk  18:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections 2015[edit]

Dear candidate. My general opinion about administration of Wikimedia is negative. Many texts and images had been removed with pretext of protection of rights of the owners of the copyright owners. The special permissions by the copyright owners were just ignored, and removed together with the files. In particular, this refers to images of the Soviet dissidents and their texts.

Below I suggest only few examples in order to let you know what is happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sofiya_Kalistratova&oldid=649939072 https://ru.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Софья_Васильевна_Каллистратова&oldid=93595 https://ru.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Леонард_Борисович_Терновский&type=revision&diff=1312548&oldid=585736

I investigated the case and I revealed that many removals were performed by bureaucrat Lozman, who has absolutely no experience with obtaining permission from the copyright owners and does not even remember, who made him bureaucrat. However, this is only example.

Sorry for being late, but I just received the invitation to vote. You still have two days to change my opinion about at least one of the candidates suggested. One example of complain by the author is available at site TORI, http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/t/index.php/Kouznetsov,_permission I mention it because it has English version, although many Russian authors were offended in the similar way.

Now I formulate the question:

Do you think it is still possible to handle the cases mentioned?

Do you think that you can find time to deal with the cases mentioned?

Sincerely, Domitori (talk) 08:07, 28 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Meta Collaboration of the Month for June 2015: Events![edit]

Events (discuss) has been selected as the first-ever Meta Collaboration of the Month for June 2015! Join the fun there and in the discussions.--Pharos (talk) 18:58, 1 June 2015 (UTC)Reply

Swahili wikipedia - restricted article creation[edit]

Hi Sj, I cannot log into phabricator (not even register with different user name), so kindly have a look at https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Jumuia#Kura_juu_ya_utaratibu_wa_kuanzisha_makala_mapya_.28.22Community_request_to_disable_article_page_creation_by_anonymous.2FIP_editors.22_.29 and transfer my reply there. Possible? Asante! Kipala (talk) 16:47, 10 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Did you ever attend Wikimania with your money? Talk to us![edit]

TL;DR: Fill a short Wikimania survey, it takes 5 min.

Hi, I'm writing you because you are listed in Wikimania/Frequent attendees. As you probably know by now, Wikimania 2016 Esino Lario wants to achieve a Wikimania format which allows people to "get things done" and leave the conference fully satisfied with the result of their investment of time and other resources (see pillars 2 and 4: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario/Pillars ). For this purpose, we consider all audiences (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario/Program#Target ).

Participants other than scholarship recipients and reimbursed representatives are one group we heard very little from, but we think they are important because: 1) they have financial resources and help make the Wikimania budget sustainable; 2) they have motivation to share and ideas on what makes Wikimania valuable.

We set up a form mainly to collect names of some such people and talk with them later: if you provide your contact, we may write you on this topic. We may release aggregate data from the resposes; data will be handled by us and the Wikimania 2016 fiscal sponsor "Ecomuseo delle Grigne" (under EU law). Please fill the whole form, it's short!

Feel free to forward this invite to anyone.

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08:30, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


Hello Sj, may I ask you for some advice? I created a draft for a sister project on my german user account. It's focussed on the needs of children and people, who have certain difficulties in perception. Now I would like to make this project big, but I cannot find an environment for this. The incubator would be perfect, but obviously they will not accept such a project being no new language version. Can you give me some advice what to do? Greetings --Liberipedia (talk) 17:08, 7 October 2015 (UTC) P.S.: I asked the same question here, but then I saw, that the last edit there was in 2013 and I decided to try something else;)Reply

I wonder if @Liberipedia: this is still an idea you have :) WikiSpore exists for this now. –SJ talk  14:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

What future IdeaLab campaigns would you like to see?[edit]

Hi there,

I’m Jethro, and I’m seeking your help in deciding topics for new IdeaLab campaigns that could be run starting next year. These campaigns aim to bring in proposals and solutions from communities that address a need or problem in Wikimedia projects. I'm interested in hearing your preferences and ideas for campaign topics!

Here’s how to participate:

Take care,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 03:33, 5 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

See notes A IdeaLabLab, Wikipedia_as_the_front_matter_to_all_research.


Have you any news? I am concerned that his plight continues to be eclipsed by the bigger issues in the area. Rich Farmbrough 17:33 10 January 2016 (GMT).

Unfortunately, nothing meaningful. The US Sec. of State mentioned him as an example of people the world should support; but it's very hard to communicate meaningfully with the country, since many diplomats and missions have been recalled. SJ talk  18:05, 10 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Future IdeaLab Campaigns results[edit]

Last December, I invited you to help determine future ideaLab campaigns by submitting and voting on different possible topics. I'm happy to announce the results of your participation, and encourage you to review them and our next steps for implementing those campaigns this year. Thank you to everyone who volunteered time to participate and submit ideas.

With great thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, Wikimedia Foundation. 23:56, 26 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia 15[edit]

Hi! Thanks for the positive review! I'll share with the entire Communications team, along with our collaborators, Mule Design. We had an amazing time finding ways to appreciate the years of contributions by so many people, and celebrating it all together. Seeing the visual language used for years to come will be the best possible outcome. I'm having a little trouble understanding your shirt idea, can you say more? Heather Walls (WMF) (talk) 08:29, 2 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hi Heather, my pleasure. As an example of knowledge-dense design, here is the Iliad printed in its entirety on a shirt, combining the fulltext (if you look closely), one or two colors, and a single icon. Something like this for WP concepts and icons, with full articles or sets of articles on a shirt, might be nice. These designers use an open source toolchain for their kerning and layout, and have thought about how to do something similar with WP article text (with Seth Woodworth). Most articles aren't long enough for exactly the same treatment, but possibly something similar could be done. Just a stray thought, as both the 15 designs and these text designs were on my mind the other day. SJ talk  23:12, 2 February 2016 (UTC)Reply


Movement Strategy[edit]

Re: Strategy/2016 and this: I love how fast you move, SJ. :-) --Eekim (talk) 06:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Likewise – I hadn't even gotten around to pinging you about it, Eugene! Ahh, the old thrill of wiki culture. SJ talk  07:01, 25 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
:-) --Eekim (talk) 07:08, 25 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Inspire Campaign on content curation & review[edit]

I've recently launched an Inspire Campaign to encourage new ideas focusing on content review and curation in Wikimedia projects. Wikimedia volunteers collaboratively manage vast repositories of knowledge, and we’re looking for your ideas about how to manage that knowledge to make it more meaningful and accessible. We invite you to participate and submit ideas, so please get involved today! The campaign runs until March 28th.

All proposals are welcome - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive feedback on ideas is welcome - your skills and experience can help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign to improve review and curation tasks so that we can make our content more meaningful and accessible! I JethroBT (WMF) 05:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Open Call for Individual Engagement Grants[edit]

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants (IEG) program is accepting proposals until April 12th to fund new tools, research, outreach efforts, and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers. Whether you need a small or large amount of funds (up to $30,000 USD), IEGs can support you and your team’s project development time in addition to project expenses such as materials, travel, and rental space.

With thanks, I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources 15:57, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

DPLA NC[edit]

Do you know why DPLA uses CC-BY-NC-SA on their photos? Nemo 12:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

Through June, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas focusing on addressing harassment toward Wikimedia contributors. The 2015 Harassment Survey has shown evidence that harassment in various forms - name calling, threats, discrimination, stalking, and impersonation, among others - is pervasive. Available methods and systems to deal with harassment are also considered to be ineffective. These behaviors are clearly harmful, and in addition, many individuals who experience or witness harassment participate less in Wikimedia projects or stop contributing entirely.

Proposals in any language are welcome during the campaign - research projects, technical solutions, community organizing and outreach initiatives, or something completely new! Funding is available from the Wikimedia Foundation for projects that need financial support. Constructive feedback on ideas is appreciated, and collaboration is encouraged - your skills and experience may help bring someone else’s project to life. Join us at the Inspire Campaign so that we can work together to develop ideas around this important and difficult issue. With thanks,

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Survey on Inspire Campaign for addressing harassment[edit]

Thanks for your participation during the Inspire Campaign focused on addressing harassment from June 2016. I'm interested in hearing your experience during the campaign, so if you're able, I invite you to complete this brief survey to describe how you contributed to the campaign and how you felt about participating.

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just see this page here and reply for improvements and suggestions!BOTFIGHTER (talk) 07:16, 30 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Hello, SJ. I am ready and...1121HIH1121 (talk)[edit]

Hello, SJ.

Please excuse my sudden approach to your page.

Also English is not my native language but I'm fluent. I'm good at Japanese.

I like to learn more so that I know that How I can contribute to our future good as beings.

I have personal experience and knowledge that I could contribute for future education for up commers and my strong determination/s once it fires up.

To be honest, I was strong believer of "Experience" rather than being taught. But I realize that I could share my personal experience and knowledge with you so you could advice me how I could utilize it for the future movement so that those up-commer will be educated. (Early age thinking Technique and exercise and so on).

Please write me. I will be waiting for you.

Very best 1121HIH1121 (talk)

Palmyra book[edit]

Soon out book: "Reviving Palmyra in Multiple Dimensions". About the project Bassel was involved in, too. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Reviving-Palmyra-Multiple-Dimensions-Cultural/dp/1849952965



hello Sj,

Regarding Stewards, how was the experience of it in the past? -- Ktsquare (talk) 23:20, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Definitely worth doing; and a block of time as well. I stopped because I was quite busy; not because it wasn't interesting and important. –SJ talk  19:54, 25 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I have sent you a question on an email regarding wikimania. I would also like to add another question about where I can find more about stweardship. -- Ktsquare (talk) 08:41, 16 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Advisor to GlobalFactSync[edit]

Hi Sj, in order to become advisor, you need to click on "Join" in the proposal infobox. We submitted the proposal today. Cover letter on talk page. We will work through the list we sent you earlier to announce the proposal.

Also it would be nice if you could make a bridge to Wikicite somehow. We should discuss this matter on the talk page. It could be one of the 10 sync targets.

Still good to pursue the Wikicite connection! –SJ talk 

WPMEDF membership[edit]

Thank you for voting in the election. Your membership however appears to have expired. Please renew via this [LINK]. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:22, 25 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

原来你的User Page也在Meta,哈哈[edit]

所以,你是否感觉到Meta Page应该有多语言支持,比如如果有个按钮可以为页面提供多个来源的翻译(Google / Yandex / Bing / Youdao) Xinbenlv (talk) 18:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

So wonderful to meet you![edit]

SJ - it was great to meet and chat at DPLA Fest this past week! I'd love to hear more about what you're up to and your thoughts about reaching out to the next generation of Wikidata contributors/users. Cheers! Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Likewise @Will (Wiki Ed):, great to see you in Chicago. Ideas: try some public-interest campaigns; matching datans + librarians + archivists; have a simple #Wikidating app; have a Wikidata track around credibility in November. –SJ talk  22:02, 19 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Journal hosting sister project proposal[edit]

Hello, I'm leaving a note on the talkpages of those on the old SPCom list to ensure that you have seen this proposal discussion for a journal hosting sister project. I realise that the process these days is slightly different, but I'm keen to make sure that we get as broad feedback as possible, so please consider to adding a note to comment/support/oppose. We hope to submit a cover letter to the WMF trustees in the coming month. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 03:47, 2 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wonderful, thanks TS and keep us updated :) –SJ talk 

Wikimania session follow-up[edit]

I just saw your name in the interested attendees' list here and thought of sharing with you this message that you can now watch the Small Wiki Toolkits project page on Meta wiki for new announcements: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits. You can also write on the talk page to discuss ideas for building technical capacity in a small wiki. SSethi (WMF) (talk) 21:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Cool! emufarmers may also be interested :) –SJ talk  00:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Re: copyrights on spore[edit]

Per your question at wikispore:Wiki talk:Copyrights, the problem with CC BY 4.0 is incorporating text in 3.0 together. It's easier to move forward than it is to move backward, so wikispore: could accept content from (e.g.) wikt:simple: but not vice versa. I think the danger is overblown but I guess everyone wants to be excessively cautious. That's my understanding. —Justin (koavf)TCM 02:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! No concerns on my end, just curious. –SJ talk  16:00, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply


Did you mean to put this in your userspace? --Yair rand (talk) 03:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes, thanks Yair rand - please delete the mainspace rdr! –SJ talk  03:05, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done by a talk page stalker. – Ajraddatz (talk) 04:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Global Conversations registration reminder[edit]

Hi Sj,

This is a reminder that if you have not yet registered for the Global Conversations on Nov. 21 and 22, please do so! Register here. Registration closes by Nov. 20. We will email you the login information for Zoom prior to the call. Thank you. Looking forward to welcoming you this weekend.

MPourzaki (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

WikiConference North America 2020 registration[edit]

Thank you for signing up to attend WikiConference North America 2020! If you haven't already, it would be much appreciated if you could also take a minute to register through our form at register.wcna.wiki. While not required, this will help us keep you informed via email, and will also help give us an idea of attendance numbers over the next three days. Thank you, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Wednesday July 28: Wikispore Day Unconference[edit]

Wikispore Day 0, the picnic that partially inspired Wikispore.
Wikispore Day 1, last year

The second anniversary of Wikispore Day, observed on July 28, 2020, marks twenty-four months from the conceptual sprouting of the Wikispore idea from the Strategy Wiknic in NYC, which was held on July 14, 2019.

You are invited to participate in a virtual unconference for this year!

Wednesday July 28:

  • 12:002:00 pm (New York City time)
  • (16:00–18:00 UTC/GMT, 18:00–20:00 Berlin)
  • Social Hour

Since Wikispore is probably the only Wikimedia project to be born at a picnic, you are encouraged to participate from a socially-distanced green space outdooors if possible.

Wikisporadic Newsletter: August 2021[edit]

Wikisporadic, an Occasional Newsletter for our Germinating Community.

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for the Wikisporadic Newsletter by adding or removing your name from this list.)

Feedback on any of these items is welcomed at your friendly Wikispore Greenhouse!

--Pharos 19:48, 11 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Invitation for WikiConference North America 2021[edit]

Thank you for signing up for last year's WikiConference North America 2020! I'd like to invite you to this year's WikiConference North America 2021, taking place online and free, October 8-10.

  • Registration is open and takes just a few minutes!
  • Program submissions are also open through the end of the month, though they are being reviewed on a rolling basis—so the sooner you submit, the better! We are accepting presentations, workshops, round tables, or any other type of session format you can think of.

If you've already registered or submitted a proposal—thank you! We look forward to seeing you soon. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 19:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply


Reply in 2022 WishList Survey[edit]

Hi, I've just spent about 30 minutes writing a reply here.
Regards, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 16:57, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Discussion area for Wikimedia Code of Conduct and Enforcement?[edit]

I followed a banner to the pages about voting on the Enforcement Charter of the Code of Conduct. (Otherwise I wouldn't even know about this effort.) The whole thing seems to be about a top-down process where something got proposed in December by a small group of activists, and they (including the WMF Board) are trying to ram it down everyone's throats globally without further discussion.

The voting instructions are all about the mechanics of voting, as if people could make up their minds how to vote without discussing it with other Wikipedia community members. There are no links to forums for discussions.

The closest I could find was:


which has only about twenty comments (pro and con).

SJ, I see that you are on the committee to scrutinize the votes that come in. Do you have a suggestion about where these discussions are (or should be) happening? And where should we edit the "voting" pages to insert pointers to those discussions, so that potential voters are able to have a discussion among themselves about how they want to vote?

Thanks... Gnuish (talk) 23:45, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello Gnuish! Good to see you. You are right, that's the closest thing I know of to a central discussion about the vote and about enforcement. I commented on the lack of a clear discussion-pointer here - the voter-info page seems like a good place to be clear about this.
The idea of a code of conduct has been discussed since 2019, and there are a number of recent related discussions, but this particular enforcement charter is recent. –SJ talk  04:16, 17 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Regarding your email at textbook-I[edit]

[please ping me in a response, since I don't watch pages]

You had sent an email on the textbook-I mailing list regarding the integration of texts from https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/. To answer your questions,

Ah very good, thanks @Leaderboard:! They have such healthily structured data on their overview that I am wondering about how we could streamline importing for someone who [say] wanted to start a translation. I suppose it's not terribly appealing to import without a specific use case in mind.
I wonder also whether it's useful to have a page linking out to a non-wiki copy of a free-knowledge book... that could capture the metadata about title, author, &c and even a table of contents [improving cross-book search], without a full transcription. –SJ talk  17:17, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • There is nothing stopping anyone from importing a book from that website onto Wikibooks - no specific use-case is needed. In fact, importing shouldn't be too difficult - given that they have the book in ODF (OpenDocumentFormat), pandoc can be used to convert the book into MediaWiki syntax and then (mostly) copy-pasted as-is.
  • I don't get what "useful to have a page linking out to a non-wiki copy of a free-knowledge book" means. One can indeed put a note saying that the book was imported from a particular site on the wikibook.
  • Though it is important to note that the license for a particular book must be compatible - I looked at this book as an example and it's licensed as non-commercial, which isn't allowed. Leaderboard (talk) 20:23, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Reply


Thank you very much for reaching! There will be an opportunity to propose again and serve in some way. Hugs, ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 16:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

As far as I know this is the list of people who have been WIR:

Best, --ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 04:42, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Great, thank you! I think some of the Soumaya residencies + Cineteca weren't included. Updated the list here but didn't attempt to update Wikidata. –SJ talk  13:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
ProtoplasmaKid We should talk about hubs soon too.  :) –SJ talk  02:36, 13 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Wikisporadic Newsletter: September 2022[edit]

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Membership renewal[edit]

Dear Wiki Project Med Supporter, you are receiving this message as you were a member in 2022. As 2023 approaches it is time to renew. There are no associated costs for active participants. We are close to elections and only members can nominate themselves for the board and vote!

Thanks again :-) Avicenno and the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 19:56, 11 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Share Your Feedback: Leadership Development Plan[edit]

Hi SJ,

The Leadership Development Working Group (LDWG) invites you to give feedback on the Leadership Development Plan, a practical resource for emerging and existing leaders across the Wikimedia movement who want to develop themselves and others. Your feedback is important to make this resource relevant and useful. We look forward to your general reactions, constructive feedback and ideas for improvement. You can give feedback through the survey, MS Forum, LDWG talk page or email at leadershipworkinggroup@wikimedia.org.

The review period closes on Sunday May 28, 2023.

Thank you!

Best, Cassie Casares (talk) 22:04, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Voluntary Advisory Member for Sister Projects Taskforce[edit]

Hello Sj,

On behalf of the WMF Board Taskforce I would like to say thank you for applying to be the Voluntary Advisory Member for Sister Projects Taskforce. We will be in touch to arrange an online interview, which will allow us to get to know each other.

Kind regards Victoria (talk) 09:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks Victoria, and likewise for pushing the idea forward. –SJ talk 

Notice of Request for Deletion[edit]

Hi Sj. I nominated Go links for deletion. You can find the discussion at Meta:Requests for deletion#Go links. Best, —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 16:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, I commented there and updated the page. –SJ talk  21:35, 15 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Sister Projects Committee[edit]

Hi Sj! You previously expressed interest in the Sister Projects Committee. This is to notify you of the currently open request for comment regarding the project. Please let me know if you have any questions! Best, Frostly (talk) 14:05, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Medicine membership renewal 2024[edit]

Membership renewal[edit]

Dear Wiki Project Med Supporter, you are receiving this message as you were a member in 2023. As 2024 approaches it is time to renew. There are no associated costs for active participants. We are close to elections and only members can nominate themselves for the board and vote!

Thanks again :-) Avicenno and the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 19:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

AI call 16 May[edit]

Hi, you're getting this message as you've signed up as interested in the topic at the Artificial intelligence page.

You might already be aware of this, but in case you had missed other announcements I wanted to send out a reminder about the Wikimedia AI call which is happening tomorrow, 16 May, at 14:00 UTC. There will be presentations from various parts of the movement, with space for questions and discussion. The call will be recorded, if one prefers to watch if afterwards.

See Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2024-2025/Collaboration/AI call for agenda and sign-up. Johan (WMF) (talk) 14:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)Reply