WikiConference India 2020: Initial conversations
- 1 Introduction
- 2 FAQs
- 2.1 What is the importance of national conference or why should it be conducted?
- 2.2 Unlike in 2016, why is Hyderabad directly being proposed to host the conference?
- 2.3 How will the community members across India will be involved in organising the conference?
- 2.4 What is the proposed timeline for the conference?
- 2.5 What if another community is interested in organizing this conference?
- 2.6 What is the budget of the conference?
- 3 Endorsements
The Indian Wikimedia community had two national community conferences till date i.e. in 2011 and in 2016. Both the conferences had been effective in bringing the diverse and the massive Indian community together for a collective and collaborative effort. The cross-community connections made during these conferences led many future activities across the country.
We haven’t had a national conference in India since 2016. Though we have had several national-level events, but not in a conference format. A national conference will help us to connect from people from other communities, share knowledge, learn new stuff, and come closer to the Wiki-family. After almost three years since the last conference, there is a need for the Indian community to organise the next one for itself.
In this context, we would like to propose hosting the next conference for 2020 in Hyderabad, Telangana. For 2016, we had the process of bidding and jury, but since then organizing the next WCI has been long ignored, going through the entire process of bidding again will only lead to wastage of volunteer time and energy. So, we are proposing this forward. At this point, we would also like to make it clear that we are only proposing conduct it in Hyderabad, considering the connectivity of the city, the facilities it has to offer, and also the capacity of community from Andhra Pradesh and Telangana to organise the conference on-ground. But the conference will be collaboratively organised with the support from Wikimedians across India, as done in 2011 and 2016.
We are open to discussion about this matter, and be happy to be in-line with whatever the community consensus is. Please go through some of the common questions that you may have, below, and if you are happy with them, please support us, or discuss on the talk page. We also had a discussion about this on Telugu Wikipedia Village Pump, it can be seen here. With regards, KCVelaga (talk) 03:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC) & Pavan santhosh.s (talk) 03:57, 2 October 2019 (UTC).
- We have listed and tried to answer some of the common questions that community members might have,
kindly go through them before posing other questions.
What is the importance of national conference or why should it be conducted?
A national conference is a way for a Wikimedians to meet other Wikimedians from across the country, share, learn, and build connections for further collaborations. Significant amount of skill and knowledge sharing takes place when people meet in-person. When a lot of people meet, this gets multiplied by several times. In the Wikimedia movement, events (of any format) facilitate such sharing. But training events are specific to the focused topic, but conferences are not bound by any topic and are open to all.
Some Wikimedians might have had the chance to attend international conferences such as Wikimania, Wikimedia Summit, and GLAM-Wiki Conference. But these are only a very few of all the community. A national conference such as what we are proposing now, will let many Wikimedians from India and its neighbouring countries to have similar experience, that will help them in further contributions to the Wikimedia movement.
Unlike in 2016, why is Hyderabad directly being proposed to host the conference?
Though the process of bidding is good and democratic, sometimes not everyone may have the time to commit to organise the whole thing. For various reasons, we haven’t had any conference for the past three years. Though one can say that India is a huge country to coordinate and organise a conference, it is not required to wait for so long to have a national conference. Conferences such as Wiki Indaba, WikiConference North America, CEE Meeting, ESEAP Conference, bringing together several countries, and sometimes the whole continent together - an amazing thing them about them is that they do it every year. We must also ideally be doing the same, but it doesn’t work in practice given the diversity and complexity of our community.
To avoid further delay of hosting a national conference, Hyderabad is being proposed considering its logistical flexibility and the potential of the community around it host it. Discussing a little more on that matter, there are many active Wikimedians from Telangana and Andhra Pradesh who willing to invest time into this, and there are also people who have wide experience in organising cross-community initiatives. Recently TTT 2019 was also organised. Considering all these factors, Hyderabad is being proposed to host WikiConference India 2020. We would be happy to have a conversation to finalise this, and see where it goes. We would again like to make it clear that the entire Indian community will be involved in organising all aspects of the conference (probably apart from ground logistics).
How will the community members across India will be involved in organising the conference?
Though the ground logistics may be best handled by the local community, organising a conference is a lot more than that. There are several areas of the conference such as program, scholarships, communication, friendly space, finance, travel and sponsorships. Most of them can be worked by people being involved online. We will have community members serving in these areas. There will an open call for the organisers once the main preparations begin.
What is the proposed timeline for the conference?
We don’t have any fixed timeline as of now. If the Indian community is happy with the idea and arrives at consensus, then we should be applying for a grant to WMF by late January 2020. But before that a survey needs to be done to understand the needs of the community, and the responses from the survey will be used to draft the grant proposal. Once WMF takes a decision on grant, and there is an approval, the conference is planned to happen in December 2020. The decision regarding the grant proposal is expected in April, and we would be needing 6-8 months for preparation and organising. A more specific timeline will be discussed as we proceed further.
What if another community is interested in organizing this conference?
This is a national event. Each and every Indic Wikimedian is welcome to help in organizing this conference. But for WCI 2020, we would like to avoid the bidding process and invest that time and volunteer energy in organizing the conference. If some community is interested in organizing WCI 2021, then let us work together for WCI 2020 and start planning for 2021 at the same time. It is very important and crucial for this to happen annually. We can announce the organizers of WCI 2021 during WCI 2020.
What is the budget of the conference?
We don't have any estimate on that yet. The budget for 2016’s was around ₹33 lakhs. This is largely dependent on the survey that is to be done to understand the community, and an estimate will be provided post-analyzation of that. It is also dependent upon the number of scholarships being offered, and several other factors. It will be discussed with the community before being finalised.
- Strong support Being one of the organizers of the last WCI, I wholly support this conversation. I like the idea of not going into bidding because that makes it sound like a competition among communities. Whereas, for an event of this scale, all the different communities need to come together to make this a success. I also like the intention of making this an annual event and start conversations around that as well. I am sad that the momentum upfrom WCI 2016 didn't pick up but at the same time, I can't express how excited I am on seeing that it is finally happening. After having the first two WCIs in Mumbai and Chandigarh, it makes sense to do the third one in South India and Hyderabad is indeed a well-connected city to do this. Conversations on Telugu Wikipedia VP show that the entire community is excited about it. Now, the rest of the Indic communities needs to come together once again. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 04:29, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Stalinjeet Brar (talk) 04:46, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support As one of the organisers of WCI 2016, I believe it's a great idea to plan next WCI as it has been delayed for so long. I appreciate the efforts of the team to understand the importance of having the conference and investing time in designing the base. I understand bidding will take a lot of time and will delay the process for this time, but this will give every other community a reason to start discussions about next one already so that the momentum stays the same post conference. Appreciating the interest and initiative of the team, I would like to extend my support to the team. Let's have an amazing learning and sharing experience and a series to follow. All the best.-Manavpreet Kaur (talk) 04:50, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support As one of the Telugu Wikipedian, I fully support this conversation. The program should bring together diverse communities to make it a success. This event is expected to be an annual event every year. I think Wikimedia is an unexpected development.--యర్రా రామారావు (talk) 04:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Excited to see the conference take place in Hyderabad. --Pratik.pks (talk) 05:04, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose The idea of bidding promotes competitive efficiency.I would suggest that initailly conference idea should proceed with a bidding system such that best community leads the initiave and sets up a benchmark. Subsequently, any idea of non-bidding should be revisited. Personally having organised two Hindi Wiki conferences and third in line, there happens to be a large enthusiam amongst the communities to host a National Conference. There are many more communities such as Karavali who had previously shared their intent for Wikimania etc. I believe any arbit decision such only in the name to save time should not be abided. To have the process inclusive, mostly importantly to have puralism within different Indian communities and good community health, bidding framework which promotes utmost documentation would be beneficial.--Abhinav619 (talk) 05:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support It will be good learning opportunity. --Sushant savla (talk) 05:27, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support It is happy to know there is WCI going to happen in 2020 after long time. As the both the events happend in 2016 are conducted in North India, this time it would be good if it is to be conducted in Hyderabad. Waiting to see all Indic communities at one place once again. - Mekala Harika (talk) 05:51, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support I fully support this initiative. I am not seeing this idea from the perspective of any single community rather India as a whole single entity. It is absolutely a great idea to conduct such an annual event in India and I wholeheartedly support this. Just a suggestion from my end, please try to include at least one person from each community/Group as a part of the organising team. All the best - Das 06:00, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - Satpal Dandiwal (talk) 08:07, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - QueerEcofeminist "cite! even if you fight"!!! [they/them/their] 08:38, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Thanks for taking it, We are waiting for it for a long time. I also support the idea of conducting this in the south india. Best wishes for your community :)--Jayprakash >>> Talk 09:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support It is a learning opportunity Katta Srinivasa Rao (talk) 12:37, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support With the proposition for conference having come from people who have adequate experience and exposure to internatioanl wiki events, this national conference is bound to be success and may in fact be a forerunner for an annual event designed for 2021. Interaction with persons in working in various indian languages will have a salutary effect on the content growth across all Indian languages some of which are very ancient.Hence my strong support.--Ramesam54 (talk) 09:41, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Thank you for taking the initiative for starting a conversation for a national level community conference in 2020 in India. Since India is one of the vast country with diversity in terms of its linguistic, a national level community conference will helps to share Wikimedians thoughts and concerns and certainly it will boost their contribution for the Wikimedia movement. I am thrilled with the above talk and to see this event to be conducted with the full support of every communities in India. I extend my full support for the third WCI to be conduced in South India. :) -Jinoytommanjaly (talk) 13:43, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support As a Wikipedian, I would highly support this event, A much-needed event for all the Wikimedians from all the communities around the nation and it's going to be a platform for all to share the ideas and their enthusiasm towards their regions. Dharampal Singh (talk) 13:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support -J. Ansari Talk 17:21, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support I highly support this conversation. Thanks for taking it, Best wishes for your community.Tarunsamanta (talk) 17:54, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Much needed conference for cross collaboration and synergy for a diverse country as India. Hyderabad is an excellent location for the conference. Almost centrally located. Good airport with many direct flights from most cities. Excellent infrastructure facilities for the conference. Supporting whole heartedly. -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 18:35, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support this event need to Indic Wikimedians for sharing their Knowledge and experiences with other community wikimedians. Pranayraj Vangari (talk) |Contribs) 19:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support It is the best Opportunity that to collaborate with all indic Languages . As a wikipedian I support this --Aliva Sahoo (talk) 01:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - Not just taking the opportunity. Indian Wiki community is also taking the lead in presenting it perfectly. As well as hoping that this program will succeed .. best of luck.--Viswanadh.BK (విశ్వనాధ్) (talk) 02:18, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support I am also agree with the following statement.//After having the first two WCIs in Mumbai and Chandigarh, it makes sense to do the third one in South India //(Satdeep Gil). If there is a separate wing for WWWW that will be good. Because their needs are different. I think Manavpreet Kaur will help over that as a consultant. I studied Library Automation in UOH. so, personally feel Hyderabad is costly city. kindly take much care about the budget. --Info-farmer (talk) 03:28, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support -- Albetudu (talk) 05:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support It is one of major community activity of all the Wikipedians to come together and work irrespective of their native State or Language. It should have organized every year, by bidding or otherwide (voluntarily). In our medical conferences, If more people volunteer to organize then only voting or bidding is contemplated. Hyderabad is the right place and to organize it for the first time in South India. We have the strengh, community, a position and all the infrastructure and connectivity from across the globe. If any hotspots are there, those can be resolved with discussion. I strong support the team to involve the people of Telangana and Andhra Pradesh and other voluteers from all the States of India to make it a grand success.--Rajasekhar1961 (talk) 05:58, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support As I am from Visakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh, I strongly support this conference. Through this conference I can gain more knowledge of Wikipedia. --Maina Tudu (talk) 14:02, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support --Nagarani Bethi (talk) 18:49, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support -- I as an Indian wikimedian will earnestly request all my fellow Indian wikimedians to come forward and support this initiative rather have discussions about where it will be hosted? Do think in the prospective of this event as a National event and we should be happy it is happening in India, so let’s all come and be a ONE TEAM for OUR NATIONAL CONFERENCE. I would like to extend my strong support and my best wishes.Rajeeb (talk!) 19:34, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support __Chaduvari (talk) 01:13, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support -- I couldn't join the WCI in 2016, so missed lots of things and from that I'm waiting for such an event. Tough I have attended some events like TTT 2018, WAT 2018, Wikidata Advanced Training, PTCC, from such events I personally learned lots of things and if we could get opportunity to meet the global community, then we could learn some new things. -- Sangaram Keshari Senapati (talk) 08:23, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support-Will back anything that has the potential of taking he Wikipedia forward in India. Please spend frugally, rope in more people and language groups especially newer people, and with carbon emissions in mind let's keep it eco friendly with no plastics and fewer plane rides especially for those of us within 800km who can make it by bus if we need to. Frederick Noronha
- Support - Idea of a national Wiki conference looks good and is much needed. Last time it happened in northern part of India and this time Hyderabad is the apt place in southern part of India for this. Wiki community enthusiastic to organise a national conference voluntarily should be appreciated and supported. --Vikas Hegde (talk) 12:16, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support I endorse the proposal to conduct WCI 2020. The process of bidding will consume more time so Let's end the discussion of venue and concentrate on the future plans regarding the conference.This will give the opportunity to Wikimedians from different community can share their knowledge and also can learn some new things --Vijay B. Barot (talk) 18:01, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - It's really important to organise such event in national level. This will give the opportunity to wikimedians from different community can share their knowledge and also can learn some new things as well. --Ramjit Tudu (talk) 18:23, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - I admire the courage and efforts of Andharapradesh and Telengana Wikipedian to host the WCI2020.Apart from the sharing of knowledge and experience definitely it will bring all Indic community more closer. I am excited to be part of it. I stongly supports the organizers. R Ashwani Banjan Murmu (talk) 00:37, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support--IM3847 (talk) 03:39, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Deepak (Gujarati community)stongly support (talk) 04:35, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support দিব্য দত্ত (talk) 06:34, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support SuswethaK (talk) 08:48, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Naga sai sravanth (talk) 08:51, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support--கி.மூர்த்தி (talk) 00:01, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support--Arularasan. G (talk) 03:16, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support As a Wikipedian, I would highly support this event --Aniket (talk) 03:21, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support MNavya (talk) 04:00, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support--Balu1967 (talk) 07:12, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Hyderabad in general is a really good place to host a conference because of good infrastructural facilities and logistical flexibility. There will be enough time to host and make the conference a grand success if Hyderabad is chosen as the hosting city. I support the initiative of the community. Nivas10798 (talk) 13:36, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong supportAs a Indic wiki median I strongly support this. It is much needed --Parvathisri (talk) 16:00, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Much awaited conference, thank you for initiating this after a long time.Wiki conference India is an important opportunity for Indic communities to meet, discuss in-person and grow.It was WCI 2016 (my first ever interaction with other Wikipedians) which boosted my (and I strongly believe many others) involvement in this fantastic movement, I like the idea of involving other Indic community members to take an active part in this conference to make it a success. Hyderabad is well connected with Rail, Road, and Air to almost all the parts of India and international (Air). I am excited to be a part of it and learn more. --Suyash Dwivedi (talk) 17:27, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support --BALA. RTalk 22:50, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- I believe this kind of brainstorming process is must needed for person like us. It's benefit in many ways...So strongly support this programme. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Parikshit GSP (talk)
- Support Full Support Sidheeq (talk) 06:42, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support --Hibayathullah (talk) 07:15, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- SupportAkbarali (talk) 07:54, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support My full support goes to this grand initiative and hearty thanks for taking such one. Waiting for such a great event which will bind again the diverse language communities into a beautiful garland and make the event a grand success. WCI is of immense importance to us wikimedians of all Indic languages and it must come annually.--Atudu (talk) 11:55, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support--Raju Jangid (talk) 02:17, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support- I personally believes that these kind of events helps national communities to build good relations, share knowledge and to gain new experiences. --Jagseer S Sidhu (talk) 07:10, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Conferences like WCI bring together Wikimedians from different communities of India under one roof. Thus, serving as a platform to share our experiences, learn from others and form new partnerships. We've already seen how smaller gatherings have resulted in great Wiki partnerships like Wiki graphist, library network, WWWW. WCI is the next step to develop a better understanding and coordination among Indian communities. It's an important event and I hope we make it a success. -- Shypoetess (talk) 07:49, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support --Nan (talk) 08:24, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Wow! Kudos to Telugu community for initiating this program. I am waiting from past 3-4 years for next Wiki Conference India. Each Indian communities showed interest in conducting next Wiki Conference, Wikimania etc. But no one came forward and took initiative. So going for bidding idea has failed. This bidding will increase competition in Indian communities and which is not good. Becuse Indian communities sizes are very different. All communities are not large like Tamil, Punjabi, Telugu, Hindi etc. All communities may not be have enough resources to participate in bidding (Example Kannada). This makes communities upset and that might effect on movement. I strongly support this initiative and I strongly disagree with the bidding idea. --Gopala Krishna A (talk) 12:20, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Ashay vb (talk) 06:35, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support--Lokesha kunchadka (talk) 08:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Nawaraj Ghimire (talk) 10:58, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support--Harshil169 (talk) 08:12, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support-- I second Gopala and Shypoetess's view. We will try to make it a successful event as Indic community.--Sumita Roy Dutta (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support I strongly support this event. Its good opportunity for all indic languages wikis. If all Indian Wikipedian's are being held, this is a very good thing. This will allow us to know about other wikis, to have a collective discussion. If there is a collective discussion, then it should also be discussed that in some wikis, some members create groups to harass other members and how to deal with them.--आर्यावर्त (talk) 17:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support It's really important to organise such an event in the National level. The place is convenient for all for its location. This will give the opportunity to wikimedians from different community can share their knowledge and also can learn some new things as well. N Sanu / എന് സാനു / एन सानू (talk) 11:42, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Nice idea for strengthening the Indic community. I fully support the initiative by Telugu community. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 15:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support One request - In the program for three days, we should not use plastic bottles and throwable dishes, glass etc. In this, we shouldn't give an exception to gest who came from out of India. We can give them one battel, which they should use for three days or more. We can give them wiki printed good quality battel instead of a t-shirt or something else. NehalDaveND (talk) 02:17, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Very useful proposal. খাঁ শুভেন্দু (talk) 14:37, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Events like these strengthen the ties between different communities of Wikipedia, therefore always need be encouraged. --Ashish Bhatnagartalk 15:55, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Useful proposal indeed. --Chinmayee Mishra (talk) 07:12, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Simranjeet Sidhu (talk) 15:36, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support -- Bijendra Hansda Purudhul (talk) 11:59, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Nirajan pant (talk) 15:26, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support- Saroj Uprety (talk) 16:00, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support As a Bengladeshi Wikimedian, I expect that this conference will create a diversified attendance for various communities to enhance their ideas & experiences.--Anup Sadi (talk) 16:58, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support I have full support. Hopefully, we will gain new experience from this conference.--18.104.22.168 17:06, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support --Ashok Talk 17:24, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - Janak Bhatta (talk) 02:07, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Keep Going. Bharat mata ki jay. - --Soumendrak (talk) 04:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support - Nirmal Dulal (talk) 06:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- I would like to endorse this proposal on behalf of Punjabi Community. Please check the community discussion here. Nitesh Gill (talk) 09:02, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- A discussion was done in Tamil wikipedia VP. The link is here. There is unanimous support for the event from the Tamil wiki community. Regards -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 08:54, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- Telugu Wikipedia has endorsed the Conference proposal unequivocally. Here is the endorsement in Telugu and its English translation. __Chaduvari (talk) 09:50, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- I on behalf of the Wikimedians of Santali Language User Group endorse the proposal.Santali Language User Group Unanimously support this proposal. The detail of the community discussions are here.R Ashwani Banjan Murmu (talk) 17:07, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- On Hindi Wikipedia a voting was done where all community members support the proposal. The link to the discussion is here.--Hindust@niक्या करें? बातें! 14:53, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
- The poposal was put for discussion on Gujarati wikipedia, and community members have supported the event. Link to discussion on Gujarati Wikipedia--Sushant savla (talk) 17:11, 15 October 2019 (UTC)