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  1. 01:06:52 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): There are currently 10 trustees (including 3 community ones), we're going to have 4 instead of 3 now, and getting to 16 will take definitely a longer time (probably over a year)
  2. 01:07:04 Youngjin Ko: Had network issue for beginning, Canadiates: Pleast TAKE ATTENTION to the chat while you are on speeach, we are sending warnings only though chat and NOT verbally notify you time warning unless time is up.
  3. 01:07:56 Pascale Camus-Walter: Hi ! I had difficulties to connect me to the meeting. I'm here now with a small screen.
  4. 01:08:25 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Hi Pascale, good to see you! Your video looks fine.
  5. 01:09:07 Iván Martínez: I'm glad you were able to connect, Pascale! Welcome
  6. 01:09:20 Pascale Camus-Walter: Sorry but with an iphone I cannot see the chat simulteanously with the screen...
  7. 01:09:37 Youngjin Ko: 1 min warning
  8. 01:10:07 Jackie Koerner (WMF facilitator): Please everyone, speak slowly when you do speak. We have live interpretation.
  9. 01:10:10 Chet Selvakumar: Tamil interpretation is really good! Thanks and Congratulations! Please record the interpretations was well.
  10. 01:10:15 Youngjin Ko: 30 sec warning, please finish it up!
  11. 01:10:23 Youngjin Ko: 15 sec warning, please finish it up!
  12. 01:10:36 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Not sure if it is possible to record interpretation :O
  13. 01:10:38 Youngjin Ko: time is up
  14. 01:11:21 Suyash Dwivedi - India: I cant see Hindi option
  15. 01:11:31 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: Nope, interpretations can't be recorded unfortunately :(
  16. 01:11:46 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Hindi ia fourth from the top
  17. 01:11:47 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: ^ Suyash ji click on interpretation symbol.
  18. 01:13:10 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  19. 01:13:36 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
  20. 01:13:55 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  21. 01:14:10 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME IS UP
  22. 01:14:55 Pascale Camus-Walter: When will be my tour ?
  23. 01:15:09 Ramzy M: Pascale: it's going to be according the alphabetical order.
  24. 01:15:25 Vicki Doronina: as in the first name
  25. 01:15:46 Suyash Dwivedi - India: Got it thanks
  26. 01:16:04 Pascale Camus-Walter: Yes but I don't know the list by heart. Can you write it in the chat ?
  27. 01:16:18 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Hold on
  28. 01:16:33 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit?usp=sharing
  29. 01:16:34 Youngjin Ko (WMF): See here
  30. 01:16:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 35 SECONDS left
  31. 01:17:19 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  32. 01:17:33 Ashwin Baindur: Its good of we can have a countdown for each speaker in future because while speaking we cannot pay attention to chat.
  33. 01:17:54 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): I was a little surprised by the lack of 1 minute warning :D
  34. 01:18:12 Pascale Camus-Walter: Oh my goodness ! You take the first name for the order..  :-)
  35. 01:18:20 Youngjin Ko (WMF): I had to make a list for public sorry!
  36. 01:18:25 Youngjin Ko (WMF): The order list
  37. 01:18:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): I will try to not make a mistake for future :)
  38. 01:19:12 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): no worries :)
  39. 01:20:52 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Sorry, I lost my network. Not on my mobile data!
  40. 01:21:28 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  41. 01:21:49 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 30 SEC LEFT
  42. 01:23:08 Chet Selvakumar: Will the zoom recording be available for later viewing?
  43. 01:23:22 Ramzy M: Chet: Yes, it will be uploaded to Commons.
  44. 01:24:04 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  45. 01:24:33 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
  46. 01:24:51 Khorshed Sakib: Can I get the recording?
  47. 01:25:34 Ramzy M: Khorshed: once it's uploaded to Commons, it's available for everyone.
  48. 01:26:07 Khorshed Sakib: Thanks
  49. 01:26:34 Chet Selvakumar: Thanks Ramzy!
  50. 01:26:49 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): The previous videos were placed on meta under the pages for respective meetings, e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/Candidates_meet_with_CEE_communities
  51. 01:28:31 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  52. 01:29:01 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Please MUTE your microphone unless you are not speaking
  53. 01:29:05 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
  54. 01:29:22 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  55. 01:31:38 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left\
  56. 01:32:09 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
  57. 01:32:22 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  58. 01:34:29 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  59. 01:35:36 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: If participants have any questions that you would like candidates to answer during Q&A, please post them now (publicly or privately). We will freeze the list of questions before start the Q&A session.
  60. 01:36:37 KSV9: can we express our questions in chat to everyone ?
  61. 01:36:49 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  62. 01:36:58 Jackie Koerner (WMF facilitator): You may, but I am collecting the questions.
  63. 01:37:11 Ramzy M: KSV9: you may, please do so after all candidates finished.
  64. 01:37:20 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS warning, please finish it up!
  65. 01:37:38 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  66. 01:37:57 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME IS UP
  67. 01:37:59 Dr. Abhijeet Safai: Questions - How you will ensure that there is no online harassment on Wikipedia which is a major discouraging reason for many editors to edit.
  68. 01:38:30 Shakil Hosen: Q. Although the number of contributors to Bengali-speaking projects has increased, the number of women contributors has not. What can be done to eliminate this gender inequality?
  69. 01:38:46 Dr. Abhijeet Safai: Second question is - What are your thoughts about extreme left bias inherent in the structure of Wikipedia and which has grown at dangerous in last few years.
  70. 01:39:12 Dr. Abhijeet Safai: Second question is - What are your thoughts about extreme left bias inherent in the structure of Wikipedia and which has grown at dangerous levels in last few years.
  71. 01:39:17 Rektz Ruiz: Q. How would you ensure neutrality in Wikipedia where we prevent both extreme left and right content.
  72. 01:39:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  73. 01:41:39 Aishwaryam Tomar: QUESTION-What can we do to solve problems of Politically or ill motivated articles? Why are British Era sources not accepted? at least we can get some information from them?
  74. 01:42:26 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 1 min left
  75. 01:43:05 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 20 SECONDS
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  77. 01:43:14 Chet Selvakumar: Q:How would you support (with projects and organizational support) the minority language Wikipedias?
  78. 01:43:44 Vicki Doronina: Where are the British era (19 - 20 century?) are not accepted?
  79. 01:44:43 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): +1 for randomizing the order of candidates, for each question if possible
  80. 01:44:59 Mike peel: I’ll write answers to the questions on the wiki talk page, I won’t answer them on this video call - sorry.
  81. 01:44:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit
  82. 01:45:02 Jackie (send questions): Thanks everyone - I have seen questions sent previously privately and publicly. No need to send them again.
  83. 01:45:11 Youngjin Ko (WMF): We will back in 8:28
  84. 01:45:38 Pascale Camus-Walter: Where do you post the new random list ?
  85. 01:45:44 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit
  86. 01:45:51 Youngjin Ko (WMF): ^ see second page
  87. 01:49:05 Recto Jr. Ruiz: Q. Should everyone that wish to edit Wikipedia or affiliates have a registered account
  88. 01:49:46 Mike peel: I’ve posted my answers to the three initial questions at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Mike_Peel - will add answers to the others when they’re announced.
  89. 01:49:49 HUAWEI Y5 2019: Yes. It is necessary in todays time to tackle fake news
  90. 01:50:50 Ashwin Baindur: A total of 61 questions from community are answered here. Community members are advised to look up the answers here.
  91. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Candidates/Community_Questions
  92. 01:50:53 Chet Selvakumar: What can you do to accept evidence from non-English non-European languages, especially if the topic is in that non-English, non-European language?
  93. 01:51:51 Ashwin Baindur: A select 11 questions are answered by every candidate here:
  94. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Candidates/CandidateQ%26A
  95. 01:54:59 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Interpreters: are you guys ready to resume?
  96. 01:55:03 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: We will start in a couple of minutes.
  97. 01:55:06 Vicki Doronina: and some additional questions, you can find the link at the bottom of the page with questions
  98. 01:57:45 Mike peel: I’ve answered all 5 questions on the meeting talk page now.
  99. 01:59:07 Youngjin Ko (WMF): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q2ODQ_74C4Tzq2Pmdoh_s8_x9xWwa5dKJADMWovy3_8/edit
  100. 01:59:14 Youngjin Ko (WMF): Once again for order...
  101. 01:59:18 Mike peel: I’m going to disconnect now, sorry, but please feel free to ask more questions on the talk page, and I’ll answer them there.
  102. 01:59:22 Mike peel: Have a good rest of the meeting!
  103. 01:59:44 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): take care, Mike!
  104. 01:59:53 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: See you Mike! Take care!
  105. 02:00:23 Vicki Doronina: get well, Mike
  106. 02:00:36 Vicki Doronina: it was great to see you
  107. 02:02:15 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 2 min 30 seconds left
  108. 02:04:18 Iván Martínez: Oh I had more time :/ I just read “seconds left” :P
  109. 02:04:50 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): yeah, it is super difficult to load-balance 5 minutes across 5 questions…
  110. 02:05:11 Youngjin Ko (WMF): I will give two min warning instead of 2.5
  111. 02:05:14 Youngjin Ko (WMF): better?
  112. 02:05:22 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): Rosie: +10 points for the cat <3
  113. 02:06:11 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME [50%] 2min 30 seconds
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  115. 02:08:06 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 30 seconds
  116. 02:08:18 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  117. 02:11:08 Iván Martínez: No worries Krishna! I’m fine :)
  118. 02:11:31 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
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  120. 02:13:22 Khorshed Sakib: Bangla interpretation is terrible
  121. 02:13:30 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS WARNING, please finish it up!
  122. 02:14:12 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Time is an issue to keep it slow, Krishna. :)
  123. 02:14:23 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: 5 questions in 5 min. ;-)
  124. 02:16:59 Jackie (send questions): Certainly understood. Candidates may choose to skip questions if needed. Speaking more slowly for people who speak English quickly is important so the message gets to voters.
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  127. 02:19:07 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS WARNING, please finish it up!
  128. 02:19:19 Ravishankar Ayyakkannu: Can I invite community members to join this Zoom call without registration now?
  129. 02:19:20 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 SECONDS LEFT, please finish it up!
  130. 02:21:52 Dariusz Jemielniak (he/him): I apologize again for speaking too fast - I posted my replies on meta:
  131. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Dariusz_Jemielniak
  132. 02:23:01 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
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  134. 02:24:38 sheikh abdullah: nice discussion
  135. 02:24:51 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: 30 SECONDS WARNING, please finish it up!
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  137. 02:25:27 sheikh abdullah: nice discussion
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  142. 02:34:30 RamzyM (WMF): TIME: 15 seconds left, please finish it up!
  143. 02:34:44 RamzyM (WMF): TIME IS UP
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  146. 02:40:09 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 15 ㄴㄷㅊ
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  152. 02:47:58 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): A fun idea I wanted to share regarding propaganda / fake news: imagine we partnered with journalists and shared lists of edits the community has identified as likely paid promotional editing. The publicity would make it much more expensive to inject propaganda...
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  156. 02:51:07 Pascale Camus-Walter: This is already done by a specific project on the francophone Wikipedia : the list of paid editings are published regularly
  157. 02:51:37 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): ^ amazing, thanks for the pointer @Pascale!
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  161. 02:55:19 lorenzo: I've published my answers on: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Lorenzo_Losa (other candidates already did the same)
  162. 02:55:23 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: My responses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP#Answers_from_Pavan_Santhosh_Surampudi
  163. 02:55:28 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Thank you!
  164. 02:57:29 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
  165. 02:57:37 Pascale Camus-Walter: @Adam : there is an anti-pub month where people "de-pub" (remove) promotional contents : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Mois_anti-pub
  166. 03:00:16 Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight (she/her): @Pascale - Thanks for sharing this link. I wasn’t aware the French Wikipedia had such a campaign. Will look at it more closely later today.
  167. 03:01:00 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [50%] 2min 30 seconds left
  168. 03:01:04 Pascale Camus-Walter: My pleasure ! Jules makes a great work.
  169. 03:01:23 Iván Martínez: @Adam Facebook and Twitter are obligated in some countries to reveal their public funded ads in a public website. Not a crazy idea for Wikipedia
  170. 03:02:01 Iván Martínez: @Pascale Interesting! Sounds like a good example to follow
  171. 03:02:09 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): Well, the terms of service already say you must reveal.
  172. 03:02:31 Youngjin Ko (WMF): TIME: [1 min] left
  173. 03:03:03 Youngjin Ko (WMF): 30 Seconds
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  175. 03:03:18 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Interesting idea @Pascale! Thanks for sharing!
  176. 03:03:21 Adam Wight [candidate] (they/he): BTW, from my work on the ORES (Scoring Platform) team, I can say that machine learning should be able to help a lot with identifying propaganda.
  177. 03:03:51 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: +1 Adam; There will always be patterns to look in propaganda.
  178. 03:04:16 Vinicius Siqueira: @Adam: this is a good thing to be funded
  179. 03:04:43 RamzyM (WMF): 1. Meta talk page for South Asia + ESEAP meeting: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Meetings/South_Asia_%2B_ESEAP
  180. 2. Aug 1 Americas meeting: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting
  181. 3. Voting rules and mechanism page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2021/Voting
  182. 03:05:14 Pavan Santhosh Surampudi: Thanks participants for listening.
  183. 03:05:15 Jackie (send questions): Thanks all!
  184. 03:05:15 Ravishankar Ayyakkannu: Thanks
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