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Fantasy Balloon logo3[edit]

Fantasy Balloon logo3

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Comments and discussion[edit]

basket, pitch, font[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Excluded by the WMF legal team. " The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes."

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Made basket not look like a parachute bomb, pitched (rotated) ballon a bit more, changed font, separated "wiki" and "voyage" for readability. I am sure many other variations can be better. Sorry I don't know how to remove the text for small sizes. Also, characters must be kerned better. Nicolas1981 (talk) 01:54, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks! Nicolas1981 (talk) 09:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Basket with gradient, Lenka Stabilo font in greens
  • Here's a version with a gradient for the basket (to make it look a bit more 3D per concerns above) and with the old Lenka Stabilo font in shades of green for a comparison (also per a suggestion above). I very, very slightly rounded the corners of the basket also. I prefer the basket in this version slightly over the above, but I don't think the Lenka font works as well as the original font above. --Peter Talk 18:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Another comment: The wider basket looks much better at small sizes, but I think it's a little too wide when larger, as in the sidebar version. I presume we could use a slightly different version for these different purposes, right? --Peter Talk 18:54, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Peter that large basket look bad in larger versions. Make it small for larger versions. Basket design can be tweaked from |_| to \_/ to see how it looks. ( i dont find better way to explain this :)) Try with different fonts also. -Nizil Shah (talk) 19:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Nizil Shah, using an isosceles trapezoid is one of those very simple, should-have-been obvious ideas that really improves the look. I think it looks best at every size. I use it in the following two examples, which show alternate color schemes, and alternate fonts. The fonts are in order clockwise from top left: Trajan Pro Bold, Lerotica, Lenka Stabilo, Linear Regular. I think the original color scheme is still the best--it's bold and eye-catching, classy, and suggests Brazil forests per Nicolas1981 ;) I don't have a very strong opinion about the fonts, but I think I like Trajan Pro Bold the best. The icon is already so whimsical that I think the more staid font works, while Lenka seems a bit overkill. Lenka was necessary to liven up our old, incredibly dull logo. --Peter Talk 21:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If this logo ultimately passes, which I am most afraid it might, it certainly should not be used combined with a cartoonish font, as Peter said. We could use something along the lines of Gill Sans with it - very legible and to-the-point, but not serifed or overly artsy.
The new colour propositions are going somewhere, but I'd ditch the central green stripe altogether as well, and try something in the typical base colours used for balloons, which is blue, red and yellow. Of the greens used, we could perhaps do with the pastel green on the left of the original proposal, the other two are (right one) "composting green" and (middle one) "forest green", neither of which suit a balloon well. PrinceGloria (talk) 04:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, who snuck aboard our balloon?
I for one think the font should be playful too. I love the Lenka Stabilo one for this reason.
Unrelated comment from a friend: Maybe could you put an earth or a suitcase instead of the gondola (basket)? Nicolas1981 (talk) 05:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ask and you shall receive. Below are color schemes in blue, red, and yellow per PrinceGloria. I still think the logo author's original color scheme is the best, though--I haven't been able to equal it. It's sharp and classy. De gustibus non est disputandum, but, ah, I think I'm going to have to dispute your gustibus. To the right is the version with suitcase, which has a nice enough aesthetic, but I think it's just too surrealist once you realize what you're looking at. --Peter Talk 07:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Peter! I believe, to quote Beth Ditto, that we are indeed moving in the right direction. Let us not dispute tastes, they are subjective. Objectively, however, the versions with different colours are simply better and don't look like cabbage :D I guess the RBY combo might look a bit too sombre in those shades, I was wondering if perhaps combining the violet and light blue from one of your earlier versions with a third balancing hue (also a pastel one if you find a fitting one) might just hit the sweet spot.
I personally like the suitcase idea. It doesn't change much in lower resolutions and adds a nice touch in the high-res versions, as well as at least brings us closer to the idea of travel. PrinceGloria (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I tried a bunch of different pastels for the central band (and desaturated & lightened the colors of the others just a tad), and the bgv variant to the right is definitely the best I came up with. But I still prefer the original at each size, and especially at 16px. --Peter Talk 20:26, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yellow might not be very printable/visible? Nicolas1981 (talk) 01:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There was a suggestion in the poll below that brighter colors might work better. The versions on the right below are higher saturation (with Lenka font), while the ones on the left (with Deja Vu Sans) are in the original color schemes. I actually do prefer the higher saturation versions, particularly for the one in greens. --Peter Talk 22:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Translation[edit]

I just translated it to Persian to show how it will look on a RTL language. --ebraminiotalk 15:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Per suggestions below, here is a variant using Deja Vu Sans, with Greek, Russian, and English. --Peter Talk 22:30, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Try these in Chinese--I think we don't need to put different colors on the logo. --Super Wang (talk) 12:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Votes for basket, pitch, font[edit]

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DejaVu Sans[edit]

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & DejaVu Sans font. DejaVu Sans has the big advantage of translatability, with support for most alphabets. Peter Talk 06:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Votes for DejaVu Sans[edit]

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Lenka Stabilo[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Excluded by the WMF legal team, who say that, "The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes." See talk.

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & Lenka Stabilo font. Peter Talk 06:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Not part of this proposal, just an idea

Votes for Lenka Stabilo[edit]

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Linear Regular[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Excluded by the WMF legal team, who say that, "The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes." See talk.

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & Linear Regular font. Peter Talk 06:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Votes for Linear Regular[edit]

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Lenka Stabilo in blue[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Excluded by the WMF legal team, who say that, "The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes. Likewise, we need to avoid the color blue on this design." See talk.

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & Lenka Stabilo font, all using alternate blue theme. Peter Talk 20:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Votes for Lenka Stabilo in blue[edit]

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