Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Interslavic

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The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code isv (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Interslavic Language name in English
Language name medžuslovjansky Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q148971 - item has currently the following values:
Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Settings
Project name Vikipedija "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Razprava Vikipediji "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Europe "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Proposal[edit]

The Interslavic language recently got the ISO 639-3 code: [1]. There is already a wiki in this language ([2]), so at the very beginning it could serve as a basis for the Wikipedia project (on CC-BY-SA license). Interslavic language has a very engaged and grown community consisting 20.000 people in 2022 ([3]), so there is a big potential for this project. --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 09:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Voting[edit]

In favour[edit]

  • I've been waiting for Interslavic to get an ISO 639-3 code and in the meantime have been making small contributions to their wiki as I learn the language. Will be nice to be able to have interwiki links with all the other languages including Interlingue which is the one I usually contribute to. Also in terms of raw activity I would put it squarely in second place now after Esperanto. Interslavic is here to stay. Mithridates (talk) 16:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Interslavic fills a real political need for an interlanguage between people from different Slavic-speaking that isn't English or Russian. I don't natively speak a Slavic language, but I am learning Interslavic because in the UK we have Ukrainian refugees interacting with a significant existing population of Polish speakers, and there is a clear utility to being able to understand both communities better. It is clear that Interslavic is a notable development in intercultural exchange, just from the amount of growth it has experienced in the last few years alone. The award of an ISO 639 code is the last proof Wikipedia should need that this is a rapidly-growing community, and as such needs its own Wikipedia. --Medavox (talk) 21:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sounds good! Interslavic is one of the most active newer auxiliary languages and probably the most active zonelang (auxiliary language for a specific language family or region). Its quasi-Wikipedia at Miraheze has already more than 460 articles, which is a good start, especially since some of them are amazingly well developed. All speakers of Slavic languages are at least potential readers, and the step to potential contributor isn't very high. So I think there's considerable potential here and say this'll be a nice addition to the Wikipedia family! Krissie (talk) 16:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The community is very active online. The language is designed to be intelligible to speakers of various languages, which makes it have even more potential in terms of readership. --Мурад 97 (talk) 17:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Being one of the original authors of the language, I can of course only support this proposal. Our current wiki is mostly focused on Slavic subjects, but I think the main value of an Interslavic Wikipedia would be the fact that it can offer comprehensible information about any subject that is not necessary represented in the editions in individual Slavic languages. Let me just add that part of the user interface has already been translated into Interslavic, it would be helpful if it could somehow be transferred to Wikimedia. And one other issue that will need to be solved is the alphabet: Interslavic uses both Latin and Cyrillic (about 70:30, I would guess), but we'll have to figure out how to handle that (by writing everything in Latin and optionally transliterate it into Cyrillic, by allowing duplicate articles, etc.). IJzeren Jan (talk) 18:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the Serbian Wikipedia does the same so shouldn't be a stopper for Interslavic, I think. Though as far as I can tell it's all written in Cyrillic first, so maybe ISV would have to choose one or the other as you said. (Hopefully not though, I can't imagine it would be extremely hard to replicate what the wiki on Miraheze has done) Mithridates (talk) 07:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • A few words from an academic teacher. I learned to speak Interslavic four years ago. I teach digital technology at an arts-focused institution (university level) in Poland. Among the students, there are many people from abroad. The lectures are conducted in Polish. For many years, I have encountered problems with students from abroad understanding some elements, phrases, or even words. Polish language is complex and complicated for many of them, and moreover, it has many nuances that are unclear to non-Slavic speakers, which are difficult to grasp through some logical sequence. To explain the complexities of the Polish language to my students from outside Poland (Netherlands, Germany, France, China, Turkey, Sweden, etc.), I am using Interslavic language, which is logical, simple, predictable. Moreover, it has all the necessary features to rely on them to explain the nuances of Polish. The students are thrilled. The most common comment for the last four years has been: "This explanation is game changing! Now I finally understand...". I think it's an excellent recommendation for the language itself. Jarek fx (talk) 21:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Missing signature --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 09:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Against[edit]

Discussion[edit]

  • I knew this was coming when I saw Interslavic got an ISO 639 code. I'm sort of concerned that it has a danger of becoming more like Europanto than a coherent interlanguage once it hits the general audience of Wikimedia, but that's not really my problem.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, I am fully aware of that risk. But isn't that a problem that goes for many smaller language editions as well? In any case, it will require quite some good monitoring. Fortunately, by now there are plenty of people proficient at speaking and writing Interslavic and willing to take up the task. Mistakes can be fixed, but texts that have little or nothing in common with the grammar and dictionary of Interslavic will of course be deleted. To be quite honest, what I am more afraid of is an overload of oneliners of the type "X is a town in Y". IJzeren Jan (talk) 20:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]