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[edit] Rajasthani Wikibooks

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Proposal summary
Language details:
Rajasthan (Marwari, raj ISO639-2)(Marwari, raj ISO639-3)(Marwari, mwr ISO639-2)(SIL code: MKD)(SIL code: MRI)
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[edit] Arguments in favour

  • &Y  Support The Marwari language (also variously Marvari, Marwadi, Marvadi) is spoken in the Indian state of Rajasthan, but is also found in the neighboring state of Gujarat and in Eastern Pakistan. With some 13.2 million speakers (as of 1997, ca. 13 million in India and 200,000 in Pakistan) it is the largest of the Marwari subgroup of the "Rajasthani cluster" of Western dialects of Hindustani.

    It is written with the Devanagari script, as is Hindi. Marwari currently has no official status as a language of education and government. There has been a push in the recent past for the national government to recognize this language and give it a scheduled status. The state of Rajasthan recognizes Rajasthani as a language.

    In Pakistan, there are two varieties of Marwari. They may or may not be close enough to Indian Marwari to be considered the same language.

    Marwari is primarily spoken in the Indian state of Rajasthan. Marwari speakers have dispersed widely through out India and other countries but are found most notably in the neighboring state of Gujarat and in Eastern Pakistan. With some 13.2 million speakers (as of 1997, ca. 13 million in India and 200,000 in Pakistan) it is the largest of the Marwari subgroup of the "Rajasthani cluster" of western dialects of Hindi

    Spoken in: India, Pakistan, Nepal
    Region: Rajasthan, Gujarat, Sindh
    Total speakers: 13 million
    Language family: Indo-European

     Indo-Iranian
      Indo-Aryan
       Western Indo-Aryan
        Rajasthani
         Marwari
    Writing system: Devanagari script and Mahajani —Hanvant 05:53, 21 June 2007 (IST)

  • &Y  Support I am from Rajasthan who is the biggest state in India (Land wise) and its capital city Jaipur has become a huge Metropolitan city because of its growing population and nearby location from country capital Delhi. May be the state and its people have undergone a huge development, both socially and language wise but the Rajasthani or say Marwari is still thought to be sweet or I say language of tradition. It is the native tongue for Rajasthanis and especially for its rural areas.

Rajasthan have a approx population of 50 million and of them one million people can use internet anytime for getting information or vice versa. It would be good idea to start a Marwari / Rajasthani language Wikipedia for them with the parent project Hindi Wikipedia. If it is need, I am desperate to help the new project in both ways, from that or this side of table. I will be glad to contribute to it as I am doing actively on Hindi Wikipedia. --Wikisidd 20:18, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Arguments against

  • &N  Oppose Marwari is considered to be a great many languages. the codes that are given are being replaced by the ones in the ISO 639-3. For instance ethnologue in version 14 raj is split in eight and Marwari has an Indian and a Pakistani code. It is therefore not clear what the request is for. The ISO 639 has for Marwari different information which raises the same issues but differently. GerardM 16:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
  • &N  Oppose There appears to be both a Marwari subgroup and a single language called Marwari, so this is probably just an issue of misunderstanding. --Johannes Rohr 13:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
  • &N  Oppose Yes true, Marwari has two ISO codes. but the both the marwari in pakistan as well as in india are same —unsigned by 210.18.50.203 13:10, 30 October 2007.
  • &N  Oppose No activity --OosWesThoesBes 06:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General discussion

  • The request is unclear about the scope of the wiki; ISO 639-3 classifies Rajasthani as a macrolanguage (meaning that it is composed of many languages), but the proposer discusses about the Marwari macrolanguage. Will the wiki allow all Rajasthani languages equally? If so, how will it be organized? Are Rajasthani languages mutually intelligible? —{admin} Pathoschild 03:03:02, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I support this project. However, would it not be prudent to have a wikipedia before wikibooks?--Eukesh 17:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
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