WikiProject Med/Tech

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A number of technical efforts could improve the editing of Wikipedia's medical content. This page is a place to propose and discuss these issues. Prizes may be offered for some of the fixes. Another possibility is once they have been developed assitance can be appied for here.

If you solve one of the following issues with a prize attached I will mail you a check in Canadian dollars (more or less the same value as American dollars) to an address of your choice some were in the world. The prize will be awarded to the first person who sends me / shows me that the issue has been fixed. It may be split between more than one person upon agreement between them.

Spaces going missing[edit]

Offer: $200 CAD
Fixed itself
When one copies and pastes within mediawiki with w:en:WP:WikEd on spaces go missing. Would be great to see this fixed. Spaces go missing when "[[" are flushed against the left side of the edit box. They also go missing when <ref> is flushed with the right side of the edit box. As part of the translation project am copy and pasting text for the translators and the WikEd colors are exceedingly important to help them work around the text. It only happens when WikEd is on. Firefox dose not cause the problem but I am also unable to get across the coloring of the markup.

Copy of text
Paste of text and the space goes missing

Doc James (talk ·contribs · email) 08:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

That is a weird problem, at first I couldn't reproduce it but my Chrome window was maximized. I could only reproduce with the window "floating". Then, if I drag the right edge of the entire Chrome frame one way or the other (which changes the size of the workspace and moves the "[[" off of the left window wall) the problem goes away. Good luck finding a real answer. Ian Furst (talk) 23:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes if it is off the left wall it does not happen. When moving entire pages of text though this is not really a solution. I have asked the WikEd person if they can build a solution :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

This is actually an already known bug in Chrome, please see Chrome bug 318925. It is not specific to wikEd, it also affects CodeEditor and VisualEditor. Please feel free to comment on their bug tracker or "star" that bug. Cacycle (talk) 14:56, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Metrics requests[edit]

What are the top articles by WikiProject in languages other than English?[edit]

Currently in English we have a great to tool that automatically lists the top 1,500 articles by page views for each WikiProject. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Popular_pages The problem is that this does not exist in other languages.

This should be fairly easy to change. One can use the interlanguage links on Wikidata to tag articles that correspond to the English Wikiproject in other languages (after getting agreement). Once we have these tagged than this tool can be run on them http://toolserver.org/~alexz/pop/view.php

This tool requires being moved from toolserver to Tool Labs. Supposedly this is now possible. Doc James (talk ·contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 13:22, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Progress

General traffic data[edit]

I made a blog post about this some time ago - see my personal blog. I want a way to easily tag any subset of articles, for example only certain health articles, and then to be able to get the total traffic to all of those articles for any range of dates.

This has utility beyond just health. I think that any external organization which considers contributing its resources to developing Wikipedia would want some supporting evidence that what it does matters, and so for example, if a cardiology organization were to develop 30 articles on cardiology, then I think they are justified in wanting to know for any given month just how much traffic only those 30 articles are getting.

I see the inability to quickly share traffic data as a major barrier to engaging external partners. Wikipedians take it for granted that readers come to Wikipedia; non-Wikipedians need to see supporting evidence. I think in many cases, people would be surprised to find that the entirety of their outreach strategy reaches far few people than a less ambitious and much less expensive Wikipedia partnership would. In health this really would have a major impact on public health education to connect existing public health education work hours to Wikipedia development. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Is this what you are looking for [4]? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:36, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Other proposals[edit]

  • A way to search Wikidata for duplicate entries that match on two criteria (eg ICD-9 AND ICD-10 matches), as the current method of searching allows just one metric and results are not very specific (ie. there are many false positives).LT90001 (talk) 10:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Bot[edit]

  • A bot to enforce MEDMOS on C-class or below articles, using their categorisation (Disease, Symptom, etc). to determine correct style. Examples of use:
    • rename sections (symptoms -> Signs and symptoms), enforce capitalisation
    • reorder sections (eg. epidemiology, history last)
    •  ? add titles + {{expand section}} if sections not present.
    • anything else which requires a lot of correcting

I think this would save a lot of time, maybe disrupt a few articles, but in the main significantly help standardise medical articles without editor input. LT90001 (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think this will work. Some diseases have no independently observable signs (only symptoms), and so should have the shorter heading. Some sections need to be merged, and MEDMOS says that the order varies significantly. However, a bot could leave a note about seemingly missing sections, and that might be useful for relatively active pages. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I have spent a fair bit of time getting disease and medication related article sections to follow MEDMOS. Still a fair bit of work to day. Might be a little complicated for a bot to do. Doc James (talk · contribs ·email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:00, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Development of Wikisource as a translation hub.[edit]

In medicine there are many translation efforts, most notably the Translation Task Force. However, the infrastructure there is ad hoc and not really designed to support a major translation effort.

I think there should be a unified place to support and direct translation efforts of all kind. Medicine should be the flagship project, but some other people may want to translate other things. If I were to propose the central forum for translation, probably I would propose Wikisource.

At Grants:IEG/Elaborate Wikisource strategic vision/Profile some people are currently working on planning for the future and development of Wikisource. I think that Wikisource will naturally want to set translation policies for who can translate historical documents, which versions are shared if the community does original translations, and how version control and annotation is managed. If this community were to make a proposal there to connect to a Wikisource translation infrastructure, then that could greatly expand the base of people who do translation and also increase the amount of support in translation that all people get.

I would like to see a lot more support for translators, and I think that to do this some people who are familiar with the Mediawiki backend should have some input into how the future of translation across all Wikimedia projects will appear. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:50, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you want exact translations? Mediawiki has translation software that's used for the software's help pages and such. I believe that Meta has it for the CentralNotice announcements.
If you don't necessarily want exact translations, then you might prefer an easier way to have cross-wiki discussions. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:33, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Translators Without Borders gives free translation tools from what I understand to their volunteers. Doc James (talk · contribs ·email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

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