Wikimania 2008/Bids/Atlanta/Meeting 9/3/07

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<Mike_H> ==Meeting will be logged from this point on==
<superm401> Let's not count our chickens.
* Cbrown1023 goes away
<ElbridgeGerry> We're logged?
<Hello32020> Nice
<Mike_H> The meetings are.
* ElbridgeGerry swears.
<Mike_H> The stuff before that line is not.
<ElbridgeGerry> Hehe, I feel so naughty.
<Golbez> Thank god.
* Hello32020 is scared of being logged
* ST47 counts superm401's chickens
<Mike_H> Anyway, the first item of business is...I'd like to ask people who have been following the bid, what they think needs to be done next.
<superm401> That's not going to make any sense in the log.
<ElbridgeGerry> I want to sue Coke Zero for flavor infringement...
<Mike_H> like Golbez, and superm401, people who aren't actively involved but know what's going on
<superm401> Well, we could use some photos on the bid page.
<Mike_H> Okay, that's good
<superm401> If you compare to Toronto,
<Mike_H> any specific area?
<Alkivar> its looking like Toronto's bid is shaping up
<superm401> there's seems a lot nicer.
<superm401> And it's really just the photos.
<Hello32020> I think we should rent private jets for transportation to it
<ST47> A map would be nice as well
<Mike_H> ST47: A map of what?
<superm401> Since GT is a tech school, there should be lots of people who can take compelling digital photos.
<Krimpet> hmm, toronto does have the advantage that i can legally drink there...
<ElbridgeGerry> I think we should make little cardboard cutouts of Jimbo and hang them from trees.
<Golbez> The immediate area around the proposed conference site?
<Golbez> Like maybe 10 blocks in each direction?
<ElbridgeGerry> BOMB TORONTO
<ST47> The campus, perhaps, public transportation, attractions
<uberpenguin> I can take compelling digital photos
<superm401> Good. :)
<Mike_H> ST47: The bid...has those.
<ST47> Oh.
<Majorly> lol
<ST47> I should read it again.
<uberpenguin> but there's no way I'm having my SLR out in full view outside the campus
<Golbez> The bid has a MARTA map but not a campus map
<Mike_H> superm401's point is that we don't have enough of Georgia Tech in the photos
<superm401> Exactly.
<Hello32020> Free coke
<Majorly> so take some
<Majorly> anyone
<superm401> And Atlanta in general.
<ST47> Indeed.
<Hello32020> I think they should give Wikimedians free coke
<Mike_H> superm401: What specifically do you have in mind as far as "Atlanta in general"?
* Majorly agrees
<Majorly> what are the sights of Atlanta
<Alkivar> London's bid is made up of much FAIL
<Hello32020> CNN headquarters?
<ST47> Mike_H: parks, attractions
<superm401> Well, primarily the places we're actually going to be.
* ElbridgeGerry recounts superm401's chickens. "Nader wins!"
<superm401> Like the clubs and such.
<Krimpet> one thing to keep in mind -- what time of year will wikimania be held? what'll the weather probably be like?
<ST47> superm401: hah!
<uberpenguin> the weather will be extremely hot and rather humid
<ST47> Krimpet: I believe it was mentioned in the bid
<Mike_H> ST47: Someone suggested we add Six Flags Over Georgia as an attraction
<Golbez> The only bid remotely comparable to Atlana's is Toronto's.
<Mike_H> and it really hadn't occurred to me, but I can't believe we left it out
<superm401> No, ST47, there are parties.
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, definitely add
<ST47> Mike_H: If it's close enough, sure
<Hello32020> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta#Temperatures
<uberpenguin> it's only... maybe 25 minutes from down town
<ST47>  we have enough younglings
<ElbridgeGerry> I say we punch some guy in the face until he pays up for the venue.
<uberpenguin> heh... course... nobody in their right mind would go to six flags on a weekend :P
<Mike_H> Krimpet: Most of the United States is hot in July. It's just how it is.
* Hello32020 thinks there should be youtubed videos of the Wikimania
<superm401> Eh... it's not as hot in PA.
<Golbez> Toronto will be hot in July too.
<ST47> Hello32020: we are supposed to have a/v feeds
<ElbridgeGerry> Let's airlift Moscone West to Atlanta and book Ringo Starr!
<superm401> Okay, what else does the bid need?
<Mike_H> superm401: So, we need pictures actually inside the Student Center
<Hello32020> Air conditioned rooms
<ElbridgeGerry> That was all.
<uberpenguin> I thought the food situation was a little confusing
<uberpenguin> it took me awhile to figure out that you listed restaurants on the georgia tech subpage
<Krimpet> Mike_H: yeah i know, just wasn't sure what time of year it was gonna be held
<Alkivar> the nightlife situation sounds mega-fail for atlanta
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: If you pay for a room at the site, you get breakfast and lunch inclusive
<Alkivar> we need to do something about that
<Hello32020> Does the food have to be open-source?
<superm401> Is someone actually going to volunteer for the photos?
<ST47> superm401: you!
<Golbez> Hello32020- Open-source food in the home of Coca Cola? =p
<ST47> ;)
<superm401> I could do them, but I don't have a camera.
<Mike_H> superm401: Andrew has been taking them, I think he can do it again
<ElbridgeGerry> Hello32020: Yes. No GMO'ed food allowed.
<uberpenguin> I'll take photos if you tell me specifically what you want to seee
<uberpenguin> *see
<ElbridgeGerry> "I could do them, but I don't have a camera." Out-of-context quoting FTW.
<superm401> I would have to have to do disposable.
<ST47> hah
<Hello32020> I think Wikimanias should grow their own food for it so it isn't commercialized :P
<ElbridgeGerry> We'll need the full blueprints of the buildings we book.
<Hello32020> And release it GFDL
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: I'm sure it will be easy for Georgia Tech students to work out for themselves how much it will cost them to eat at the dining hall with the other Wikimaniacs
<Golbez> and each dish should come with a list of everyone involved in preparing the food, lest the GFDL be violated.
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, I still think there should be quicker access to a list of restaurants
<Mike_H> for people not from Atlanta, they will be getting a room, and the breakfast/lunch is included for them
<Golbez> personally I'd stay in the hotel and not eat dorm food
<Golbez> been there, done that
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: The bid page shouldn't be cluttered with huge tables like that. People can click on a link. These are Wikipedians. They know how.
<superm401> Uberpenguin, how about Student Center, Yellow Jacket Park, CRC, 5th St. Bridge, Hotel, for a start?
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, sure, but make the link more obvious
<Mike_H> Oh, sure. We can do that.
<Hello32020> Is Coca-Cola releasing their products CC?
<uberpenguin> currently you have to know to click "Georgia Tech" to get to "food"
<Mike_H> Oh, yes, so do another "see also" link
<Mike_H> got it
<uberpenguin> superm401, sure
<superm401> Thanks a lot.
<uberpenguin> why the CRC, though? it would probably be difficult to get access to that
<superm401> Guests can by temp passes, right?
<Mike_H> CRC?
<superm401> Campus Recreation Center.
<Mike_H> Yeah, I was about to type that
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, gyms, swimming pools, tracks, etc
<Mike_H> I got it like three seconds after
<ElbridgeGerry> Let's douse the town in NyQuil.
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: Well, wouldn't that be expensive for non-students?
<superm401> But you can skip that.
<Mike_H> I know our gym is here for non-students
<superm401> Maybe, instead, photos of the kind of dorms people would stay in.
<Mike_H> superm401: Jessica emailed me and said it would be "suites"
<Mike_H> She didn't say exactly where
<superm401> Like North Avenue?
<Mike_H> because I don't think they know
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, yes, which is why I asked why a photo of it would be useful
<superm401> That's where I am.
* Hello32020 is confused
<superm401> Okay, well we can just pick a random dorm until we know for sure.
<Mike_H> Not Glenn
<Mike_H> because that's nasty
<uberpenguin> haha
<superm401> Anyway, pictures of the hotel and dorm would be good.
<superm401> A dorm, for now.
<Mike_H> superm401: We already have one of the outside of the hotel, at least.
<uberpenguin> if you pick a random dorm and photograph it, you guarantee the bid will fail
<uberpenguin> the dorms here mostly suck
<Mike_H> The important thing is that they're economical
<Mike_H> and livable (for a week)
<superm401> Whatever.  They're not that bad for dorms
<uberpenguin> that's a matter of opinion...
<Hello32020> "upper 80s Fahrenheit" That's not that hot :P
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: We're not going to be put in the worst dorms. We have different options since it will be summer.
<uberpenguin> well, if you tell me which ones, I can photograph the outsides
<uberpenguin> I don't know many people in the dorms, so inside shots would be harder
<Mike_H> Which ones are suite?
<superm401> And I don't see a hotel photo?  Where is it?
<Mike_H> superm401: Oh, I remember, we deleted it off the entire page
<uberpenguin> mmm... the best ones are probably the ones we just bought back from ga state
<Mike_H> you'll have to go back in the history
<superm401> I'll be back soon.
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: I think it's safe to say we will not be put there
<uberpenguin> probably
<superm401> Actually, the North Avenue ones are huge.
<Mike_H> for people who don't know, the dorms he's referring to are high-rise and was the housing for Olympic athletes in the 1996 games
<superm401> So there's probably room for summer guests.
<superm401> But they're more expensive.
<ElbridgeGerry> Cuttlefish races.
<uberpenguin> when you talked to the housing people about this, did they indicate at all which dorms would be available?
<Mike_H> Jessica talked to them, I did not.
<Mike_H> Let me find the e-mail.
<uberpenguin> while you're looking, do you want me to talk to the wifi guru to see about getting access?
<uberpenguin> if so, I'll probably need the exact dates and a rough number of expected users
<Mike_H> Okay
<Mike_H> July 30-August 3
<Mike_H> rough number: 500
<uberpenguin> he'll probably want some kind of assurance that we aren't going to load his network with a bunch of P2P traffic
<Mike_H> and the e-mail does not say what specific dorms, because apparently it is fluid and can be changed on later request. John Nussear says he can split between suite and apartment if we want, for the same price quote
<uberpenguin> can we expect attendees to 'behave' in this regard, or no?
<Mike_H> Yes.
<uberpenguin> he probably won't want to fool with complicated traffic shaping
<uberpenguin> and the temptation is there since the wifi network is plugged into a huge level3 backbone
<Mike_H> We will give TOS to attendees at the start, no doubt
<uberpenguin> okay, I'll see what I can do
<Mike_H> and whoever is found out not complying may be asked to leave
<uberpenguin> I _think_ he'll help out if he can
<Mike_H> We're adults, we can follow rules
<uberpenguin> hopefully he's not still mad at me :P
<Mike_H> So we need more pictures
<Mike_H> Alkivar had something to say
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<Hello32020> LOL there's a jury?
<Mike_H> ...yeah. When I said it was like the Olympics I wasn't kidding
<Hello32020> I think it should be done like Special:Boardvote :P
<Mike_H> Vote for all the ones you want!
<Hello32020> wee
<Mike_H> [x] Alexandria [x] Atlanta [x] Cape Town...
<uberpenguin> hm... I'll see if I can find matt tomorrow
<Mike_H> As far as bid wording is, Toronto's may look nicer but looking at the wording of their bid, ours is more professional at this stage.
<Mike_H> There are certain things that did trouble me about their wording, which I think we're free of.
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<superm401> There's hasn't been fully updated for 2008.
<Mike_H> Alkivar: hello?
<superm401> And parts assume you already know a lot about Toronto.
<Mike_H> superm401: That, and there are parts of it that read clearly like someone young wrote it
<Mike_H> which isn't impressive when you're doing a formal presentation
<Hello32020> Egypt location would be funny
<Mike_H> but that's my issue with it
<uberpenguin> is anyone interested in my idea for arranging tours of research groups/facilities here?
<superm401> And some questions they still haven't started to answer.
<Mike_H> Well, there's still time for that anyway. There are things we're not done with, but everything on our bid has at least a foundation.
<uberpenguin> the page already talked at some length about how we're such an incredible technological center and all that jazz
<superm401> Exactly.
<uberpenguin> so if you think there'd be interest, we could easily get some tours of some interesting labs
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: Georgia Tech is internationally known. I removed "best kept secret," because people...do know about it, and that was my bad with wording, so I took it out
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: Andrew was discussing that the other day
<Mike_H> about tours
<superm401> People do know of it, but is a best kept secret compared to schools like MIT, Stanford.
<Alkivar> sorry
<Alkivar> was in the bathroom
<Mike_H> considering the impressive interest we've gotten from different colleges at GT, I don't think tours would be a problem
<Mike_H> and I was told President Clough also knows about the bid
<Alkivar> germans and many of our european guests will want to know the nearest place to get a drink
<uberpenguin> no, but some of the logistics might
<superm401> Does he really?
<superm401> That's pretty cool.
<Mike_H> He's been e-mailed by at least two people about it
<Alkivar> we should definately include a list of bars/taverns nearby the accomodations
<Mike_H> I don't know his response though
<uberpenguin> you'll get to see more interesting stuff if you know who to talk to
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<superm401> Well, we probably don't /need/ approval on that level.
* Looking up Tarawneh user info...
<superm401> But it would be a plus
<Mike_H> Oh, we don't need President Clough's approval at all, but his interest would be crucial for publicizing it
<Alkivar> more for the school than for us
<uberpenguin> like, the MiRC makes for very cool touring, but you... uhh... really need to know who to talk to to avoid... personalities
<Alkivar> at this point in time wikimedia has a larger profile than 90% of the schools in the USA
<Alkivar> i mean lets face it ... GTech isnt MIT
<Alkivar> it doesnt have the name recognition
<Alkivar> us doing an event there would be bigger for them than for us
<Mike_H> You'd be surprised how much name recognition Georgia Tech does have.
<Mike_H> Jessica went to China to study
<Mike_H> and people knew what Georgia Tech was.
<superm401> It's a "mutually beneficial relationship"
<uberpenguin> yeah, if you're a researcher in the US, you've heard of gatech
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, well, there's probably an alternative explanation for that
<uberpenguin> especially if she went to shanghai
<Alkivar> those are not your prospective high schooler searching for a college though
<uberpenguin> true true
<superm401> I didn't think of it at  all at the beginning of my search.
<uberpenguin> if you haven't emailed clough, you should
<Mike_H> and considering the woes that really plague GT about low female enrollment
<uberpenguin> he replies to almost all emails
<Mike_H> I find it impressive that the bid team has three women
<Mike_H> all of whom either go or graduated from GT
<uberpenguin> I almost managed to have an all-male class this semester
<uberpenguin> but it turned out that there was one girl in it
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: You should e-mail him
<uberpenguin> well, if nobody else already has, I will
<Mike_H> all the GT people involved in the bid should
<Mike_H> we have
<superm401> Didn't Mike say 2 people had emailed him?
<Mike_H> but nobody has heard anything, or nobody has told me
<Mike_H> maybe he did respond, I don't know
<Mike_H> strength in numbers anyway
<superm401> I'll send one.
<Mike_H> all the GT people involved should let him know
<Mike_H> As far as volunteering, we have a strong core Georgia Tech team and a strong core from outside Atlanta who are willing to travel to volunteer
<Mike_H> It's the best of both as far as I'm concerned
<uberpenguin> yup, and my office is about a thirty second sprint from the student center :P
<Mike_H> Costs will be lower to get the student center because a student organization is going to sponsor us
<Mike_H> so while we won't be getting it for free, it's still good for our budget anyway
<uberpenguin> which one?
<Mike_H> I highly doubt most places in America would just give something for free because "it's Wikipedia" anyway. They're still businesses.
<Mike_H> I'm not sure which one, Jessica is involved in that
<Mike_H> she would know
<uberpenguin> that, and most of the people in charge of those facilities probably know little to nothing about wikipedia :P
<Mike_H> Yes, I've found that the people needed for the venue know nothing about it
<Mike_H> but everyone else does
<Mike_H> like the colleges, they surely know and are so excited
<uberpenguin> if the "everyone" demographic is heavily centered on the CoC... :)
<Mike_H> Certain people we contacted know about it too
<uberpenguin> yeah
<Mike_H> the City of Atlanta
<Mike_H> but the Georgia State Tourism Board, yeah, no
<Alkivar> how about chamber of commerce?
<Alkivar> did we ever get in touch with them?
<uberpenguin> by the way, I think we might want to stress public transport even more than we have
<Mike_H> Alkivar: I did
<Alkivar> did they have any good tips for you?
<uberpenguin> we don't want people to discover atlanta traffic by experiencing it
<Mike_H> They told me to talk to the Atlanta Convention Center and Tourism Bureau
<Mike_H> which I did, two different times
<Mike_H> nobody responded to me
<Alkivar> ok
<Mike_H> I am going to send them another e-mail tonight
<Mike_H> But the ACCTB is a non-profit too
<Alkivar> did you phone? or just email?
<uberpenguin> did you try harassing them on the phone?
<Mike_H> they look for sponsors just like we do
<Mike_H> so I needed to contact sales
<Mike_H> and ask for their sponsor list
<Mike_H> Both.
<Mike_H> I contact Dawn Curry on e-mail
<Mike_H> and Cookie Smoak by phone.
<Mike_H> Cookie is in charge of sales and partnerships at ACCTB
<Mike_H> she would have the list
<Mike_H> but nobody got back to me
<uberpenguin> oh, can we add oakland cemetery to the sights list?
<uberpenguin> there's a half-decent wp article on it
<Mike_H> Yeah, you had suggested it
<Mike_H> add it yourself.
<uberpenguin> k, just making sure there are no objections
<Mike_H> Okay, what else
<Mike_H> sponsors
<Mike_H> we put a good dent in that last week
<Mike_H> now the rest of them need to be contacted this week
<Mike_H> and whoever hasn't responded, we need to check back with them
<Mike_H> Alkivar: you had something to say about nightlief?
<Mike_H> *nightlife?
<uberpenguin> nightleif
<uberpenguin> nocturnal vikings
<Mike_H> :O
<uberpenguin> fear them
<Alkivar> already said something
<Alkivar> europeans will want to know where to get a beer
<Alkivar> we need some sort of a list of bars/taverns
<Mike_H> There are a lot of those in Midtown.
<Mike_H> We need to do a list like that by genre
<Mike_H> pub
<Mike_H> bar
<Mike_H> straight
<Mike_H> gay
<Mike_H> things like that
<Alkivar> yup
<uberpenguin> we should mention the vortex somewhere... best burgers in town, IMHO
<Alkivar> yep dining/eating establishments
<Alkivar> are there any danceclubs ?
<dungodung> Mike_H: sorry for not being able to participate... I was busy with other things. oh well, good night everyone
<Alkivar> country line dancing bars dont count :P
<Mike_H> Alkivar: Yeah, there are
<Mike_H> but if it's on the weekend
<Mike_H> they're bound to be horribly busy
<Mike_H> like, hourlong waits to get in busy
<Alkivar> which is the point to going
<Alkivar> heh
<uberpenguin> what?! there are country line dancing bars in midtown and nobody has told me?!?
<uberpenguin> I feel very upset
<superm401> Heh.
<Mike_H> We have one here :(
<uberpenguin> in atlanta, you wait for everything
<Mike_H> It's called "Dallas Bull"
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<Alkivar> look damnit ... theres only a line if you dont know how to get through the door
<Alkivar> 100$ gets you in anywhere on earth
<Alkivar> especially if your dressed right
<superm401> $100/night adds up pretty quick.
<superm401> :)
<Mike_H> indeed
<Alkivar> it only takes once ;)
<Alkivar> you can hit the same club after that assuming the same guy is on the door
<uberpenguin> I think we should pimp the aquarium harder... 'biggest aquarium in the world' has to be worth something
<Mike_H> and if these people are going to be staying in dorms
<Mike_H> they won't have Franklins to hand to bouncers
<Mike_H> ;)
<Mike_H> Is it really the biggest one in the world?
<Alkivar> mike you'd be surprised
<Alkivar> i'd spend the money on drinks rather than housing
<Alkivar> heh
<Mike_H> I would too
<Alkivar> i know i aint the only one
<Mike_H> just saying
<Mike_H> not everyone will be like that :)
<superm401> Mike, for some value of world.
<uberpenguin> Mike_H, currently
<Alkivar> mike currently the US dollar is weaker than its ever been
<Alkivar> brits are getting more than 2:1 exchange
<Mike_H> and as far as contacting Wikipedians for volunteers is going, I've contacted every active Wikipedian in the states of Georgia and North Carolina.
<Alkivar> trust me... its gonna be like that
<Alkivar> heh
<Mike_H> A dedicated Southeast team will really help.
<Mike_H> Plus, then the bid team won't have to do 100% of everything :)
<Mike_H> So, anything else that needs to be discussed?
<Mike_H> anyone?
<Alkivar> pictures... get more pictures
<Alkivar> other than that... no
<Mike_H> Already noted
<superm401> Get more pictures and more sponsorship.  That about sums it up.
<Mike_H> okay
<uberpenguin> any specific pictures requested other than the ones superm401 mentioned?
<superm401> There is actually a student center picture at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Georgia_Tech_Student_Center_and_Campanile.jpg
<superm401> So you can take that off the list.
<Mike_H> We need insides of the Student Center
<Mike_H> what the venue will actually look like if we were there
<superm401> Interiors would be good.  Is there a possibility we would use Ferst too?
<Alkivar> interior shots matter much more than exteriors
<uberpenguin> the interior was just renovated
<uberpenguin> good time to take pictures
<Mike_H> superm401: We may use that for a final ceremony, or for hacking
<Mike_H> we have not decided for certain yet
<uberpenguin> looks a lot more impressive, though it now sadly lacks those oh-so-awesome sofas
<Mike_H> We had to cut hacking down to one day
<Mike_H> we may very well bring it back to two if we can find a better venue
<Mike_H> for hacking, that is
<Mike_H> the venue for the actual event is solid.
<superm401> Okay.  But interior of ballroom and any other likely Student Center rooms would be good.
<uberpenguin> okay
<Mike_H> Jessica may be coming in
<uberpenguin> yeah, that's a pretty good picture of the student center there
<uberpenguin> some chromatic aberration, though :P
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<superm401> If you say so, uberpenguin. :)
<Niayre> hey all. Sorry I'm very late.
<uberpenguin> if you can think of any others just stop by my office tomorrow and tell me
<superm401> Thanks for all the pictures.  I'm going to head out now.
<Mike_H> Jessica, the summation right now is that we should finish sponsorship contacts this week and get more pictures of Georgia Tech, preferably of the venue and inside the halls
<uberpenguin> I'm in Bunger-Henry 211
<superm401> Bye.
<uberpenguin> later
<superm401> later
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<Niayre> ok -- that sounds good.
<Mike_H> and a map
<Mike_H> if we can find one that's PD
<Mike_H> of Georgia Tech's campus
<uberpenguin> if I can find the time... big IF, I'll try to take shots documenting the whole route from marta midtown to the student center
<uberpenguin> that might be tricky
<uberpenguin> the only ones that rapidly come to mind date back to the... hm... 1920s or so :P
<uberpenguin> can we external-link to a campus map until a better solution can be found?
<Niayre> http://gtalumni.org/map/
<Mike_H> At this point I don't know if we have time to make our own map
<Niayre> brb
<uberpenguin> hmm
<uberpenguin> well, there are shortcut methods if necessary
<uberpenguin> you can base it off public domain USGS satellite photos
<uberpenguin> though those will be a bit out of date
<Mike_H> yeah, a bit
<uberpenguin> 2002, to be exact :P
<uberpenguin> http://www.terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=9&Z=16&X=7409&Y=37402&W=3&qs=atlantic+drive%7catlanta%7cga%7c&Addr=Atlantic+Dr+NW%2c+Atlanta%2c+GA+30318&ALon=-84.3966929&ALat=33.7749439
<Mike_H> Is 2002 good?
<Niayre> ok - back
<uberpenguin> no
<uberpenguin> tech square didn't even exist
<uberpenguin> much less the klaus building
<Mike_H> oh, yeah, we shouldn't use that then
<uberpenguin> the street data is okay, so someone clever with photoshop/gimp/whatever could do some tracing and maybe whip something together quickly
<uberpenguin> http://www.terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=4&S=9&Z=16&X=7417&Y=37404&W=3&qs=atlantic+drive%7catlanta%7cga%7c&Addr=Atlantic+Dr+NW%2c+Atlanta%2c+GA+30318&ALon=-84.3966929&ALat=33.7749439
<uberpenguin> that's centered over tech square
<Mike_H> hm
<uberpenguin> I guess the best we can do for now is just link to this guy > http://gtalumni.org/campusmap/campus-map.pdf
<Mike_H> right
<Mike_H> this would probably be a good job for the volunteers we've recruited
<Mike_H> :D
<uberpenguin> sure
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<uberpenguin> I would do it myself if I weren't burned out on drawing maps from some work I did awhile back
<uberpenguin> plus I suck at it anyway
<Mike_H> I know I do
<uberpenguin> plus I have too much work right now :/
<Mike_H> most of our bid people do too
<Mike_H> not only with this
<Mike_H> but their own work and their own lives
<Mike_H> Jessica has been fabulous
<Mike_H> just wanted to say that again :)
<Niayre> sorry, i was collecting safety forms from the actors and got distracted
<Niayre> i think we have a fairly good group for this
<Niayre> some good experience with wikimania and some good experience on campus
<Mike_H> large, diverse
<Mike_H> it's everything one can ask for
<uberpenguin> yeah, well... between RF, EM, QM, and my bunny suit, I'm pretty bushed ATM
<uberpenguin> fortunately I'll be freer around the time of the event
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<Mike_H> You've been good help too.
<uberpenguin> we'll see
<WM-Thunderhead> Ah, the meeting time changed?
<uberpenguin> if I can manage to convince matt to help out with wifi, THEN I'll be a good help
<Mike_H> I edited it on the page four days ago
<Mike_H> to 7 p.m.
<uberpenguin> this is all contingent on whether he still hates me or not :P
* WM-Thunderhead was out-of-town
<WM-Thunderhead> My apologies.
<Mike_H> It's okay
<Mike_H> I didn't do a good job of publicizing it
<WM-Thunderhead> Anything important?
<Mike_H> The summary is basically
<Mike_H> we need to get more pictures of Georgia Tech, especially of the venue and inside the halls
<Mike_H> and finish up on sponsorships this week, finish contacting the remainder and following up with the ones we did contact
<Mike_H> and trying to get a PD/GFDL Georgia Tech campus map.
<WM-Thunderhead> I'm sure Georgia Tech would help to draft one for us
<Mike_H> Alkivar also mentioned making a list of pubs/bars/clubs in the area for nightlife
<uberpenguin> under such free licensing conditions, though?
<Mike_H> oh, and to put a link to restaurants on the main bid page
<Mike_H> (that one is for my own reference)
<uberpenguin> yes, please
<Mike_H> Was there anything you wanted to bring up, Thunderhead?
<WM-Thunderhead> Hmm, not really
<Mike_H> Okay, is it okay to close now?
<WM-Thunderhead> hm, on the badges, is "Wikimania Team" okay, or do you want something else?
<WM-Thunderhead> Other than that (personal preference question) nothing else
<uberpenguin> badges!
<uberpenguin> badgers!
<Mike_H> Wikimania Team will do for the bid team and the volunteers, yes
<WM-Thunderhead> Alright.
<Mike_H> actually, is there any way to get "Head Organizer" for the bid team?
<Mike_H> and "Wikimania Team" for the volunteers?
<Niayre> that might be useful for the volunteers to know who they can address questions to
<Mike_H> I agree.
<WM-Thunderhead> Yes, but something better than 'Head Organizer',
<WM-Thunderhead> How about "Event Administrator"
<WM-Thunderhead> Lemme see if it'll fit...
<Mike_H> Event Administrator?
<Mike_H> Administrator doesn't sound right in that context
<uberpenguin> SUPREME OVERLORD OF THE NERD PROCEEDINGS
<Mike_H> :O
<WM-Thunderhead> Too long!!! But otherwise, perfect!
<uberpenguin> I have a penchant for verbosity in diction
<uberpenguin> don't knock it
<WM-Thunderhead> Do we want actual staff of the campus to have a seperate tag?
<Mike_H> Yes.
<uberpenguin> Sleep-deprived cranky wasp-gnome
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<WM-Thunderhead> "Venue Staff"
<Mike_H> Yes.
<Mike_H> I like that.
<WM-Thunderhead> Okay, "Volunteer", "Venue Staff", "Visitor", "Speaker", "Press except FOX", "Sponsor", "Troll", "Organizer"
<WM-Thunderhead> ?
<Mike_H> Press Except FOX, evil ;)
<WM-Thunderhead> Okay, okay, just "Press" ;)
<uberpenguin> ha
<uberpenguin> what are these badgers that you speak of, anyway?
* WM-Thunderhead will show you in a minuite
<WM-Thunderhead> Mike_H what color for Venue Staff?
<Mike_H> Dark Blue?
<Mike_H> wait
<Mike_H> no
<Mike_H> Gold
<WM-Thunderhead> Done
<uberpenguin> pinku
<WM-Thunderhead> Lemme upload a pic
<WM-Thunderhead> http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8543/wikimaniakm7.png
<WM-Thunderhead> Best Gold i had
<Mike_H> I like it
<WM-Thunderhead> uberpenguin, i've also devised a sort of online-registration way
* WM-Thunderhead needs to think of what to license these pics under
<uberpenguin> MIT
<uberpenguin> for kicks
<WM-Thunderhead> MIT has a license?
<uberpenguin> well, a software license
<WM-Thunderhead> Ah
<WM-Thunderhead> Knew that, was wondering if there was a MIT Image License
<WM-Thunderhead> yet
* WM-Thunderhead writes his own license
* uberpenguin wonders if it would be too morbid to put a picture of Margaret Mitchell Marsh's grave on the page under 'attractions' :P
<uberpenguin> I wish I had a more general picture of oakland..
<Mike_H> uberpenguin: don't do that
<Mike_H> put a picture of her house instead
<Mike_H> we mention her house under attractions
<uberpenguin> I was kidding :)
<Mike_H> :o
<uberpenguin> slightly less morbid : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/OaklandCemetery-LionoftheConfederacy.jpg
<uberpenguin> perhaps familiar to the swiss...
<uberpenguin> who knows
<Mike_H> Lion of the Confederacy?
<uberpenguin> yesh
<uberpenguin> it's a copy of the lion of lucerne :P
<Mike_H> ah
<uberpenguin> http://myswitzerland.igougo.com/photos/journal_photos/DCAM0380.JPG
<WM-Thunderhead> So "Organizer" is anyone that's been working on the bid, attending meetings, etc. Upwards of 25 members of the Organizing Team?
<Mike_H> I was thinking "Organizer" would be just the six bid people
<Mike_H> and "Volunteer Team" would be the people on the list
<WM-Thunderhead> Mkay
<WM-Thunderhead> I assume we print these and other forms at the conference?
<Mike_H> yes
<Mike_H> or it may be done beforehand
<WM-Thunderhead> With the exception of press registration, which we want to be ... publically available
<Mike_H> yes
<WM-Thunderhead> We'll need someone to check credentials for the press registration. Press get in free and all-access, so we need to be ... not overly secure, but watchful regarding that
<uberpenguin> hand screen it
<WM-Thunderhead> absolutley.
<Mike_H> Which we and the Foundation can do together
<Mike_H> obviously
<WM-Thunderhead> "Mr. O'Reilly, We could not approve your press registration because you didn't send us enough information. If you would like to appeal this decision, please contact us using the details provided on your original request form."
<Mike_H> Okay, we can continue talking about this, but the meeting will end now.
<Mike_H> ==Meeting and logging are over.==