MediaWiki talk:Createacct-imgcaptcha-help
Edit request March 2024 (1)[edit]
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Could the link to Help:Captcha be changed to Special:Captcha/help please? The former page was optimistically created in 2013 per Meta:Babel/Archives/2013-05#New account creation and login to allow translations, however 11 years later the page is still just a redundant fork with no useful value that I plan to nominate for deletion. * Pppery * it has begun 02:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pppery that other link is already present right above the CAPTCHA box, can we just default this message - unlinking it? — xaosflux Talk 16:50, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to removing the first link, but the link to request an account should probably be kept. * Pppery * it has begun 16:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- The default has that. Checking on the one below, before doing these together. Notably the Special: link already has translations too. — xaosflux Talk 16:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, that would work, but you would need to create MediaWiki:createacct-captcha-help-url with "w:Wikipedia:Request_an_account/ACC_Wizard", or else the link would point to the nonexistent Meta:Request an account * Pppery * it has begun 19:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pppery that seems like yet another problem. We shouldn't be sending everyone that comes to this project to the English Wikipedia's project page on this subject. So the local page, with links to appropriate projects (e.g. those in d:Q11009153 and elsewhere) may be more useful. — xaosflux Talk 15:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- What local page? Meta:Request an account is red. If there were actually a process on Meta for this then I would agree with you, but the English Wikipedia page (which is currently linked to) is better than nothing. * Pppery * it has begun 16:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Right, so it could be created. This project serves people from every language - and the English Wikipedia people don't want to deal with account creation requests from someone that wants to edit meta-wiki in french for example. — xaosflux Talk 14:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm reaching out to the larger projects to get Q11009153 populated — xaosflux Talk 13:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Right, so it could be created. This project serves people from every language - and the English Wikipedia people don't want to deal with account creation requests from someone that wants to edit meta-wiki in french for example. — xaosflux Talk 14:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- What local page? Meta:Request an account is red. If there were actually a process on Meta for this then I would agree with you, but the English Wikipedia page (which is currently linked to) is better than nothing. * Pppery * it has begun 16:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pppery that seems like yet another problem. We shouldn't be sending everyone that comes to this project to the English Wikipedia's project page on this subject. So the local page, with links to appropriate projects (e.g. those in d:Q11009153 and elsewhere) may be more useful. — xaosflux Talk 15:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, that would work, but you would need to create MediaWiki:createacct-captcha-help-url with "w:Wikipedia:Request_an_account/ACC_Wizard", or else the link would point to the nonexistent Meta:Request an account * Pppery * it has begun 19:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- The default has that. Checking on the one below, before doing these together. Notably the Special: link already has translations too. — xaosflux Talk 16:56, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- No objection to removing the first link, but the link to request an account should probably be kept. * Pppery * it has begun 16:53, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Not done defaulted, further improvement is welcome at Meta:Request an account. — xaosflux Talk 12:38, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Edit request March 2024 (2)[edit]
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Could the link to Special:ListAdmins be changed to Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat please? This seems to be the only substantive difference between the local copy at Help:Captcha I am requesting be obsoleted and the existing help page. * Pppery * it has begun 02:04, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pppery: I wonder if changing that to
[[Project:{{int:Group-sysop}}]](and doing so upstream) would be better? I'd like to avoid localizing if possible. — xaosflux Talk 18:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC)- Project:Administrators isn't the correct target on Meta, though. It's talking about the contacting the site admins, and the way to do that on Meta is meta:RFH. FOr upstream where you know nothing about the wiki, Special:ListAdmins really is the best place to link to, but not on Meta. This request more specifically: Please change Please contact the site administrators for assistance if this is unexpectedly preventing you from making legitimate actions. to Please contact the site administrators for assistance if this is unexpectedly preventing you from making legitimate actions.. I'm not understanding the reason for not doing this. * Pppery * it has begun 19:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Pppery in general we prefer not to localize messages if the default is sufficient, we aren't going to translate them - leaving an inconsistent user experience. When it makes sense, we do of course. — xaosflux Talk 19:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Project:Administrators isn't the correct target on Meta, though. It's talking about the contacting the site admins, and the way to do that on Meta is meta:RFH. FOr upstream where you know nothing about the wiki, Special:ListAdmins really is the best place to link to, but not on Meta. This request more specifically: Please change Please contact the site administrators for assistance if this is unexpectedly preventing you from making legitimate actions. to Please contact the site administrators for assistance if this is unexpectedly preventing you from making legitimate actions.. I'm not understanding the reason for not doing this. * Pppery * it has begun 19:15, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done 'how to contact the admins' is already on Project:Administrators; and in general seems like it would be better for any project to link to the group page where project-specific directions can be detailed as we have on this project. phab:T363099 opened for this feature request. — xaosflux Talk 12:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)