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Haitian Creole Wiktionary[edit]

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Hi there, a newbie has started to write definition of several words on the Haitian Wikipedia. I do not want to stop him and let him continue on the Haitian Wiktionary. Can it be enbaled, pls? Thx. --Teksmeksh 00:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Haitian Creole is now widely spoken, it is used by about 14 million people worldwide with most of the speakers coming from Haiti, the US, The Dominican Republic, Canada, and France, it can easily be understood by various ethnic groups in the Caribbean islands who share a similar Creole , but is not Haitian Creole.In addittion various state government in the US, Canada used haitian Creole in their programs and brochures of services to reflect the growing use of this language.The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.3.247.2 (talk • contribs) --Johannes Rohr 08:23, 15 May 2007 (UTC).
  • Haitian Creole need Wiktionary for placing words. Bonne idée! Olaf Voljavo 17:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Haitian creole is an evolutive language and its foundations are yet within the constitution (Constitution 1987); such a dictionary could help to contribute to the spread of the culture of Haiti and encourage to translations; books are numerous on vocabulary and grammary methods of the haitian creole but none of them has a numeric version of these papres(internet interface).
    • There are many websites that are trying to build their own dictionary, a collaborative and opensource projects have demonstrated their forces and efficiency opposite to individual or commercial puproses.
    • this haitian dictionary could be the great interface for all kind of creole in the caribean, isles, west-indies : we could have, like in Index entry (Language Index ) a correspondance between them in a same interface.
    • a dictionary is a basis to bring encouragement and efficient contribution to the construction of numerical documents (looking for a definition, a term, a vocabulary, a grammary point, a linguistic one ..etc)
    • it has got an educational purpose for the children or other youth's who are starting computer science, it could be an open-door
    • many projects have a translation field, we can find the haitian creole language (such as Launchpad website, with the translations projects for ubuntu)
    Masterches 01:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • No reason to be against that! --TwoWings 12:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Large enough audience. Mønobi 17:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
  • I wholeheartedly agree! Haitian creole is the 4th largest language spoken in the Americas, after Spanish, English and Portugese, but before French! Approximately 14 million people speak this language fluently, and it is their first language at home, regardless of country of residence. The Haitian language is unique in its own right, and deserves its own chapters in all the Wikipedia subdivisions. Freedom of knowledge demands it. -- yurinator180 96.234.102.197 02:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  • none

General discussion[edit]

  • Can you give me easiest explanations on how to activate the Wiktionary, pls? Thx. I am a little bit lost with all that procedure.

--Teksmeksh 04:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

  • The language proposal is rather long and involved. The easiest explanation is to read the Meta:Language proposal policy. You (or the newbie editor) may also consider creating an account on the Incubator and start creating Wiktionary pages with the prefix "Wn/hat." (More experienced metapedians, if I am mistaken, please correct me.) --Iamunknown 20:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
    Yes, that's (almost) correct. Go to incubator:Wikt/hat and start editing. --Johannes Rohr 21:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
    For your information, User:Masterches has started to work on the Incubator and seems motivated ; he has actually started to build a Haitian Creole dictionary on his personal website. Looks good ! le Korrigan bla 16:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
    i've started the building of the haitian wiktionary inside the incubator. What does it remain to have a final decision ? How could i hope that all this work won't be lost ? Cordially, --MasterChes130.79.208.185 13:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
    You will not lose the work done that is done on the Incubator. That is not an issue. What is an issue is that for one project at least the "mostused" system messages have to be localised. With two requests for Haitian Creole, the whole of the system messages need to be translated.. and I would prefer to have localisation for the extensions the WMF uses. Thanks, GerardM 00:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Many messages are already translated on the Haitian Creole Wikipedia, but I haven't put them into a patch yet (see w:ht:Special:Allmessages). I don't know if I will have time to do it though... do you know anybody willing to do it ? le Korrigan bla 09:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
    betawiki: has all processes in place to faciltate this. Please check it out. After import, we need a review before we commit, so at least one ht-3 user should be involved. Cheers! Siebrand 11:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
    Yeah, I know about it, it is more a matter of time available. For a ht-3+ user, Masterches can be contacted. Thanks, le Korrigan bla 12:22, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Hi everybody, hi Korrigan :-) ! I'm here for the contributions needed and for other questions, i'm an ht-N, native speaker user ;-), i'm going on completing the w:ht:Special:Allmessages messages. I'll check the betawiki process (i've yet created a haitian creole translation team). --Masterches 00:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
    link to the wmf page and confiurations :WMF and Messages --Masterches 01:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
WMF (most used-mostused) messages are almost done. Hope that will make things going ahead.--Masterches 15:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
  • WMF most-used section (mostused) has been entirely translated. Thank you for your attention --Masterches 14:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
  • i used a model to simplify entries in the wiktionary. Do these models be correctly translated ? {{wt/ht/definisyon |term= |fr= |en=}} into {{definisyon |term...}} and internal links like [[wt/ht/malis|malis]] into [[malis|malis]], the second argument will be obsolete but nothing bad :-). Thnak you for your attention. --Masterches 15:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Localisation update[edit]

One of the criteria for final approval of a second project in a language is the full localisation in this language. At the moment 100.00% of the most used message are done, and 29.64% of all the Mediawiki messages, for the extensions used within the WMF 0.52% has been done. GerardM 11:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

ok, we will try to do the necessary.i hope all barries will lie down after this step for the rest o fother projects ...--Masterches 22:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Could some of translation be done in the time ? We will be able to start the projects meanwhile keeping translating i think.--Masterches 11:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC) There are messages that refer to 2006, 2005, fixed dates (12 july) ...etc, could we translate them for archiving purpose after ?

  • Currently 36.70% of the MediaWiki messages and 16.33% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 12:47, 13 November 2008 (UTC)