Rodovid

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This page is a proposal for a new Wikimedia Foundation Sister Project.
Status Under discussion
Prompt Response
What is the proposed name for the project? Rodovid
Project description
What is the project purpose? What will be its scope? How would it benefit to be part of Wikimedia?
see #Goals
How many wikis?
Will there be many language versions or just on one multilingual wiki?
Yes
How many languages?
Is the project going to be in one language or in many?
22


Technical requirements
If the project requires any new features that the MediaWiki software currently doesn't have, please describe in detail. Are additional MediaWiki extensions needed for the project?
jes
Development wiki
Interested Participants:


· English · Українська · Italiano · Norsk · Nederlands · Indonesian · Suomi · Română · Русский · Deutsch · Español · Français · Português · 日本語 ·


Rodovid


Rodovid is an attempt to create a free familly tree site, using MediaWiki software, which has been customised to make working with genealogical data more convenient (see features below).

History[edit]

Rodovid was originally set up as a project independent of the Wikimedia Foundation, but its main contributors realised that becoming a Wikimedia project would be a great thing for the Rodovid community itself and, we believe, also for the general Wikimedia community.

Goals[edit]

The aim of Rodovid is to provide a place in the genealogical community where data can be shared freely.

Why do we need a family tree wiki?[edit]

There have been several different attempts at creating genealogical wikis, which shows that the demand is definitely out there. Family trees are a thing that anyone can get involved in, you don't need specialised knowledge like you might to write certain articles for Wikipedia or Wikibooks. It will appeal to a wide range of people, from occasional hobbyists, to professional genealogists.

Unfortunately, most previous genealogy wikis have failed or simply become more or less static. Hopefully, if Rodovid was to get the backing of the Wikimedia foundation, it would be able to reach out to more people and become a widely recognised genealogy site, in the same way that Wikipedia has become a globally recognised encyclopedia.

Naming[edit]

The word Rodovid is the English version of the Ukranian word родовід which means Ancestry/Pedigree. If a more English name, possibly with the wiki prefix was wanted, it can possibly be changed.

For discussion of and suggestions for the naming of such a project see Rodovid.org/name.

License[edit]

Currently, Rodovid is under the Creative Commons Attribution License, rather than the GFDL as genealogical data is mainly facts, so most can not be copyrighted anyway. If there is any great reason to change to the GFDL, then this could happen in future.

Internationality[edit]

At the current time, Rodovid.org supports 20 languages:

Deutsch, English, Français, 日本語, Nederlands, Português, Русский, Українська, Italiano, Norsk,

Indonesian, Suomi, Español, עברית, O'zbek, Српски (Srpski), Slovenščina, Română, Polski, and Česky .

See for all languages Number of families and persons on Rodovid
All these languages use the same database, so records added to one will appear in the other (see features below). This is made possible because of the fact that family trees are mostly facts: dates, names etc. This means that all that must be translated is the headings (name, age, place of birth etc.), which can be done by computer.


It is also possible to add a page which contains biographical information about a person. These pages are separate, from the tree pages, so must be translated by hand (as pages on normal wikis such as Wikipedia are).

Testing[edit]

There is also a special stand-alone database designed for testing - Rodovid engine. This is also the area used for comments, reporting bugs and requesting new features.

Features[edit]

Easy to use[edit]

To add a person all you need to is click Add Person to the left and fill in the fields (see records, description for what to put in each). To add relations you just type in their name and search for them. If they're already in the database they will be shown and you need only click on them. Otherwise you can create new records for them.

Automatic Tree Generation[edit]

A graphical tree is automatically generated showing two generations of ancestors and two generations of descendants, with their siblings and spouses as well. You can also view a version of this tree showing all generations. It is possible to create a version optimised for printing]. Finally, you can just click on sex (♂, ♀) mark near any person - you will see ALL their ancestors and descendants.

GEDCOM Import[edit]

Rodovid originally allowed you to import people into the database using GEDCOM files, the internationally recognised standard. Nearly all family tree programs allow saving in this format, which opens up Rodovid to a wide group of people. However since June 2007 GEDCOM import has been disabled.

Gedcom upload[edit]

At this time Rodovid does not allow the upload of gedcom files. In the future this feature may be made available on a limited basis. Gedcom imports are dangerous because of the risk of data corruption due to duplicate individuals and families. Other genealogy-sites who have been crippled by this effect found their services abandoned by dissatisfied users who found it difficult to navigate their sites. There is not a single genealogy system anywhere in the world that allows automatic Gedcom uploads without experiencing duplication problems. We are currently researching better methods to make it possible in the future, but it may take a while. In the meantime at Rodovid.org quality will prevails over quantity. We feel we have a site that offers an unparalleled product. With our team of various linquistic, historic, anthropological, and genealogical experts editing performing quality checks on a daily basis we can offer our patrons a more accurate content that is free of confusing duplicates and other errors!

Interlinked Databases[edit]

Most genealogical data are simply names, numbers and places, so if you add a person in one language, they will appear in all the other languages (with the words 'name', 'birth' etc. translated). So [1] which was created in Ukranian is also viewable in English [2].

Special Pages[edit]

There are several special pages, created for usefulness in Genealogy:

Examples[edit]

There are several different examples of the way family trees can be created:

Proposed by[edit]

Alternative names[edit]

  • Rodovid
  • Wikifamily (already a wikimedia domain)
  • Wikinealogy
  • Wikipeople
  • Wikitree

Related projects/proposals[edit]

There are/have been several other family tree wikis/proposals.

Proposals for Wikimedia Family tree wikis[edit]

There have been several other Wikimedia proposals for family tree wikis. Unfortunately, none of these have gone any further than the proposal stage and most of the working demos have been abandoned.

Wikitree[edit]

One of the formerly highest-traffic genealogy wikis is Wikitree. Unfortunately, the site started off with a non commercial license, so discussions with the Wikimedia foundation didn't come to fruition. Also, the site has few of the features of Rodovid.

To prevent there being two competing projects discussions are currently underway between the two projects about a possible merger.

Since this initial proposal Wikitree editor activity has dwindled to almost nothing and its traffic has declined commensurately.

On Wikicities[edit]

There is a genealogy wiki on wikicities, and there is also a Norweigian genealogy wikicity. A comment has been added to the community portals of both wikicties. These two wikis will almost definitely not be in direct competition with Rodovid, as neither are specialised for work with genealogical data and were originally designed for sufi chains.

WeRelate.org[edit]

There are also discussions with another genealogy site, WeRelate, about the possibility of merging the two projects.

Wikidata[edit]

Wikidata can handle kinship relations, and GeneaWiki helps viewing these data in graphic form.

Domain names[edit]

  • wikifamily.org

Mailing list links[edit]

Demos[edit]

Support[edit]

  1. Baya
  2. [Ulli Heist[3]] - the RdLanguageDe.php needs a fully translation, I will do it
  3. User:master_flosse
  4. Bjwebb
  5. APPER
  6. Morais69br
  7. Dallan
  8. Trevor macinnis
  9. Balû
  10. Lhademmor
  11. Dunc|
  12. Roberth
  13. Wikiacc (talk) en.w en.w
  14. Almoustine
  15. Red Baron
  16. Backscheider
  17. Holden
  18. Pcu123456789
  19. Andre Engels
  20. mayhew18
  21. Richard Melo da Silva
  22. Chaerani
  23. Ek7
  24. Yann
  25. Yakudza
  26. PSMax8956
  27. Chamberlian
  28. Rakuten06
  29. Dunning
  30. CrnaGora (en)
  31. VPliousnine
  32. Manfroze
  33. TDN169
  34. Argento
  35. Thanatosimii
  36. Elcairo
  37. Wknight94
  38. Dovi
  39. Bmunden
  40. Maxipuchi
  41. Johan R (sweden)
  42. Greeves
  43. NDCompuGeek
  44. thesublime514
  45. SPQRobin
  46. AlexEagar
  47. R0MAN0
  48. putnik
  49. Ionas68224
  50. Andre Mesquita
  51. TFMgames
  52. Dvorsky
  53. Arman Aziz
  54. ElbonianFL
  55. Felipe Aira As long as we'll have a Tagalog edition.
  56. Karpeth
  57. Ahonc
  58. User:Abyssal_leviathin
  59. alexscho
  60. Arctic Gnome
  61. Art-top (ru)
  62. Dionys
  63. Deevrod
  64. Desalvionjr
  65. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!)
  66. GranD
  67. ZoolooS [4]
  68. Irbisgreif
  69. AndrewRT
  70. MTC
  71. Adrian Comollo 1)
  72. Daniel de Souza Telles
  73. John Vandenberg
  74. Butko
  75. Tpt 14
  76. Yair rand assuming privacy laws don't make the entire thing impossible
  77. Christophe Tesson Rodovid.fr admin.
  78. OldLion
  79. Alain Théol
  80. Jean-Sébastien Chorin
  81. Markus3
  82. astur
  83. --41.230.100.230 21:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
  84. Alexandre Rozanov
  85. stobs
  86. Brzak
  87. Eloy
  88. Ronan Le Bras
  89. Sander van der Molen
  90. Fred Bergman (Bergsmit)
  91. Serge Rode
  92. Akrabbim
  93. CharlesF
  94. Sapcal22
  95. Leo Bijl
  96. AerobicFox
  97. SJ · talk | translate
  98. Л.П. Джепко (aka Leonid Dzhepko)
  99. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
  100. Vibhijain
  101. --Ceradon 18:46, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
  102. --Pabos95 01:36, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
  103. Skippy le Grand Gourou (talk)
  104. Ypnypn
  105. Ricordisamoa
  106. --Kip (talk) 13:33, 27 March 2013 (UTC)