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Rollback

Is it possible for me to use SWViewer without rollback? EthanGaming7640 17:35, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

EthanGaming7640, Yes, you can use undo from custom revert panel. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:57, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
Oh, misunderstood you. The requirement for rollback is to limit the abuse of tool because it offers very quick ways to remove edits and then warn. Without rollback anyone even trolls can abuse them. Also rollback isn't that hard userright, if you have it on any project you can use SWViewer there. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:00, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:00, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

[ADDITION, FEATURE]: Enable warning and edit summary differently

Type Addition, feature
Setup unknown
  Please separate warning option and edit summary of rollback, As currently only if I enable warning then only I can use readymade rollback summaries, or the inverted like I want to use readymade rollback summaries then I need to use warning too. Seperating these two things would be more useful. I thought about it when a sysop on hiwiki got furious about the creation of IP talk pages because of used warning templates while reverting.(And they actually deleted such IP talkpages in bulk!!! as they think its useless to keep such IP talkpages with waring tags on it.Special:Diff/5272006) Though earlier I thought the dynamic or whatever IP tagged with warning templates would be useful.

QueerEcofeminist [they/them/their] 15:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

then I need to use warning too

Hmm… You can just disable warns and use readymade rollback.—Iluvatar (talk) 16:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
+ Green color after enabling warning is to show that which quick summary support warn and it doesn't mean that they get enabled only after enabling warnings. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 03:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
@1997kB, exactly this is the change I should have asked for. I realised it when I tried it properly. Thanks QueerEcofeminist [they/them/their] 07:17, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
@QueerEcofeminist So can we close this if your got resolved? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:05, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
yes, we can close this. thanks QueerEcofeminist [they/them/their] 07:07, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:15, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

[SUGGESTION]: Fix grammar

Type Suggestion
Setup unknown
  translatewiki:Wikimedia:Swviewer-warn-fail-title/en should be "Warning failed" rather than "Warned failed".

~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
18:33, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Fixed. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 05:51, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:00, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: SWViever doesn't work, again

Type Bug
Setup unknown
  Hi, I am writing to report that SWViever is not working. It worked until this morning (my last actions with this program date back to 11:00 AM), but now, when I open the program, I see that it doesn't work (red exclamation point on discussions, warning indicating "disconnect from recent stream", queue naturally empty. I hope this can be corrected. Thanks

--Nima Tayebian (talk) 12:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

It’s working now. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:01, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:01, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

[SUGGESTION]: Show edit tags

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Type Suggestion
Setup unknown
  It would be great if we could see the Manual:tags associated with each edit, e.g. to see if it's already been reverted already.

Eviolite (talk) 16:33, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Blocked by: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T218063 ‐‐1997kB (talk) 08:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
phab:T294391.—Iluvatar (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: Autoreporting one before maximum warn count

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
Type Bug
Setup Firefox 97/Linux, though shouldn't be important
  SWViewer is prompting to auto-report, rather than warning, one before the maximum warning count. For example, on enwiki where there are 4 levels of warnings, SWViewer does not warn if the user has already received a level-3 warning and instead prompts to auto-report (when it should do that with a level-4 warning instead.) I believe this comes from Line 551 of swv.js: var maxWarnCount = Number(SEdit.config.warn['countWarn']) - 1;, which subtracts 1 from countWarn for no immediate reason that I could see.

Thanks, Eviolite (talk) 17:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I'm struggling to figure out how the auto-report functionality works at all. It didn't warn and asked to report when the talk page of the user looked like this, even though it was able to add the level-1 warning the first time. I wonder if it is checking for a current month header and also a level-3 warning anywhere in the page, when in reality it should be looking for a level-4 warning under the current month header. If so, this functionality seems unintuitive and should be changed. Eviolite (talk) 13:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, I find this really annoying actually. I would actually suggest disabling the auto report thing entirely until it can be made to work properly, as it currently seems to be more trouble than it is worth. Mako001 (talk) 10:40, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing.—Iluvatar (talk) 19:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: hrwiki improper speedy deletion syntax

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 10:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Type Bug
Setup -
  Hrwiki has recently changed its deletion templates to enable automatic creation of discussion pages when somebody opposes a deletion. We have modified our deletion templates to use {{subst:brisati|reason}}. Please make the appropriate change where necessary. Thank you!

Ivi104 14:10, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Ivi104, you can do it in config. Also you can translate summary for undo/rollback, etc.—Iluvatar (talk) 08:42, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
delete => subst:btisati — done.—Iluvatar (talk) 10:05, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

[OTHER]: Thanks for this awesome tool

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 09:21, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Type Other
Setup unknown
  Just wanted to say this is an awesome tool! Years back User:Petrb & I talked about turning Huggle into a web app, and it looks SWViewer is just what we wanted to aim for!

·addshore· talk to me! 21:49, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! :).—Iluvatar (talk) 09:21, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

[FEATURE]: Enable substitution of {{delete}} on some wikis

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Some {{delete}} templates require substitution (for instance, w:hr:Template:Brisati). SWV need a feature that allows specifying templates on what wiki should be subst'ed and recommend that to other users as well.

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 23:14, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh, you can do it in config.—Iluvatar (talk) 08:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC) (delete is redirect to Brisati),—Iluvatar (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: Speedy deletion failed if target page is empty

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 09:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Type Bug
Setup irrelevant
  If target page is empty, an error message will be shown when tagging it (Speedy deletion failed! Dev code: 004.0).

Stang 14:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks.—Iluvatar (talk) 09:20, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: Problems with the recent stream

Type Bug
Setup unknown
  Dear administrators of SWViever. I have been working with SWViewer rather frequently lately. I like it a lot. However, I notice that there are continuous problems with the recent changes, (recent stream) almost daily it needs to be reset by "an administrator" after a call. I think through that it is because it runs on Toolforge and that is not always stable, I understood. Can something be done about that? By the way: English is not my first language, in case I have put down something strange I hope you will still understand It. yours sincerely

Drummingman Talk 15:10, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Connection with recent stream is more of an issue of recent stream rather than SWViewer. We have tried best on our end to stablize the connection but it not in our hand when recent stream itself have issue and thats when the problem you mentioned happen. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: SWViewer does not work

Type Bug
Setup Windows 10, Brave Browser
  SWViewer does not currently work, at least for me. Yesterday was working.

--NGC 54 (talkcontribs) 08:31, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Now it is working. --NGC 54 (talkcontribs) 14:47, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

[FEATURE]: Warning to IP

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Some wikis seem to prefer not to warn IPs. (ref)

What about features in config.json or personal settings that prevent Patroller from warning IPs on that wiki? --Syunsyunminmin 🗨️Talk 10:02, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

@Syunsyunminmin You can stop automatic warning. There is a button to do disable that in Custom revert panel. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 11:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
BTW there's no rule like that on Hindi Wiki. I myself is a hiwiki contributor and I frequently warn IPs which is a good thing to do before blocking them. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 11:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
The button is here: Warn user. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 11:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
There is no such rule in Hindi Wiki... But when I warn, I will avoid doing so. thank you.-- Syunsyunminmin 🗨️Talk 12:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Syunsyunminmin 🗨️Talk 12:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

[FEATURE]: Script/Language filter

Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Give the ability to filter by the language or the script the Wikis are using. Even though sometimes is easy to see blatant vandalism in unknown scripts or languages, most of the time you'll have no idea what has happened if the change is in a script you cannot understand at all. If language filter may seem too restrictive, I believe a script filter would be overall beneficial.

Klein Muçi (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@Klein Muçi, done. Language filter. Iluvatar (talk) 08:24, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
@Iluvatar, thank you! How do I access it exactly? - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:04, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi, create/edit preset => Language set. [1] Iluvatar (talk) 10:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! :)) - Klein Muçi (talk) 10:17, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
@Iluvatar, maybe these should be proposed on a new thread but I'm going on here just because we already have context provided.
Currently when you add a new language to the filter you created or any other entry on the existing filters, you have no way of knowing if you added it correctly or not. The filters accept every value you provide for them, no matter if they work or not. I tried that out by adding random characters and they still accepted them. It would be good if you were told when the value you provided wasn't correct or made no sense (was unknown) from the SWViewer part.
Secondly, the presets part has always been a bit too underground, at least for me. I keep pressing either the button for queue settings or the other button for the general settings. The little up and down arrow beside the preset name, while elegant in looking, isn't that intuitive in usage. I'd advise for some changes in regard to that:
  1. Make a general interface change to make it more understandable that you have other options in the preset name (like editing the default one or creating new ones).
  2. When you double click on the preset's name, it opens it up for edit. Maybe when you right click on it, it can open it up for a quick rename.
  3. [Important] Add a scroll bar when working with presets popups. 50% of its options don't appear for me in my laptop and if I accidently click outside of them, it closes the popup. Only option to scroll down is with the keyboard. Klein Muçi (talk) 11:32, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
About the second part, I happens to disagree. There is always going to be a learning curve when using a new software. But what it offers is that we have a less populated interface which also fits nicely when people use SWViewer on small screen devices, for eg mobile. And double click is unnecessary when we have a button to edit the used preset (the Queue setting button works individually for each preset). There’s no scroll bar because preset isn’t too long, but mouse scroll or double finger touchpad scroll works with it. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi ^ ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:29, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
@1997kB, thank you for providing opinions and for the tag!
I don't want to populate the interface either. I'm just thinking of a adding or changing certain minor elements. For example, if we want to keep the up and down arrow style, we can put an underline below the name preset to make it more understandable that it's something you've chosen and that you can change it (choose something else) if you so want. Or, a more heavy-addition, (which can go into the "populate the interface" territory): We can add the word "Preset:" in front of the preset, which only shows if you've already clicked the up arrow to "close" the stream.
As for the other 2 details... I believe double-clicking and right-clicking can be considered subjective ideas (even though I believe having multiple ways to accomplish something could be beneficial) but I would consider the scrollbar a cry for help. I don't have a mouse for my laptop and I've never, so far, used double-finger touchpad scrolls. I went to try it now that you mentioned it and after 5 failed tries, I gave up. I think I might have disabled that option ever since I've gotten the laptop. For the moment, I can only scroll down either by the keyboard or by selecting down all options in the popup and unselecting once the page has reached its bottom (a primal way to do it). I highly doubt adding scrollbars would cause any harm, interface wise or not. Klein Muçi (talk) 10:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi, about the first part. Done. 1 Iluvatar (talk) 16:31, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
@Iluvatar, thank you! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

[TEST REQUEST]: Request for testing SWViewer in Edge

Type Test request
Setup Microsoft Edge
  Could anyone test SWviewer and see if it works properly on Microsoft Edge?

105.105.60.55 14:44, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

It does. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:29, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: SWViewer transmits no user agent

Type Bug
Setup WMCS
  The hosted version of SWViewer on WMCS (formerly labs) sends no user agent information

Guerillero Parlez Moi 10:40, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Fixed. Iluvatar (talk) 15:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 02:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: Warnings not working

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 20:41, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Type Bug
Setup Google Chrome browser
  Hello! I noticed that if I click the button to disable the warnings and then re-enable them, either the vandalism or disruptive editing warnings won't work, and sometimes it's both. Logging out of SWViewer and then back in seems to fix the issue until you disable and re-enable the warnings again.

Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Fixed.--Iluvatar (talk) 12:42, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

[FEATURE]: Thanking

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 20:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Type Feature
Setup unknown
  Could the ability to thank editors be added (from the diff), to spread the WikiLove?

Qwerfjkl (talk) 21:09, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Done 1. Mediawiki API, not WikiLove. WikiLove isn't common extension for all wikis.—Iluvatar (talk) 20:39, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

[FEATURE]: See past pages

This section was archived on a request by: Iluvatar (talk) 20:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Type Feature
Setup unknown
  If we switch from a page to another one from the stream that page/edit is gone forever. It would be nice to be able to restore it into the edit screen somehow.

Klein Muçi (talk) 09:08, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Another side effect of the warning is that you can't return to older edits if there's a deleted one between them and the current one. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 09:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Fixed.--Iluvatar (talk) 17:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
@Klein Muçi. Hello, what do you mean? There is a history (5 pages), "Back" button.--Iluvatar (talk) 17:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Error

Hello, I am Md.Farhan Mahmud. I have rollback rights to bnwikibooks but SWViewer does not work. ≈ Farhan  «Talk» 11:25, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

1997kB! ≈ Farhan  «Talk» 11:33, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@Md.Farhan Mahmud What error do you see? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 15:06, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@1997kB, When I login, it shows -"Sorry, to use this application local or global rollback is required. If you have rollback right and see that error, then report about it on talk page. Thanks!" ≈ Farhan  «Talk» 15:10, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@Md.Farhan Mahmud Can you try now? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 15:16, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@1997kB; No, it(sorry,"to use this application local or globalrollback.....) shows again. ≈ Farhan  «Talk» 04:08, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

@Md.Farhan Mahmud Should work now. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:11, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

@1997kB, Yeah! It works now. Thanks. ≈ Farhan  «Talk» 12:20, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 12:24, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

[BUG]: SWViewer don't work on Nintendo Switch

Type Bug
Setup NetFront (Webkit based on Safari 9.0) on Nintendo Switch firmware 15.0.0
  I am trying to connect to SWViewer, but didn't connect. The error is 'System connection lost'.

Xeverything11 (talk) 18:28, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Xeverything11 I don't think we have support for that browser. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:10, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: ‐‐1997kB (talk) 06:41, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Translation errors

Hey, some of the Scowiki edit summaries are incorrect/Scotched. The Scots for "page" for example, is "page" rather than "paige", "Nae uiseful content" should be "Nae uissfu content", "Oot o projecht scope" should be "Oot o project scope" and "Baffle" should be "Haivers". I've asked a few other Scots editors to check in in case there's something I missed CiphriusKane (talk) 01:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey, please fix it on:
Summaries, warnings, etc: SWViewer/config.json.
WebApp interface: Translating:SWViewer. Iluvatar (talk) 18:44, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 18:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

[ADDITION + FEATURE]: About warnings on eswiki and enwikiquote

Type Addition + Feature
Setup unknown
 
  • Addition: First of all, on enwikiquote there are some vandal warnings yet to be added: For Spam, Level 1 and Level 2 (Last). Promotional/Advertising Spam: Only warring. Vandalism: 1 (more like for test edits in general), Level 2 (vandalism in general), Level 3, Level 4, there's also another warning, but it should be used only by admins, Lvl 5. Please add them, they're necessary. Also: vandals who passed the 4th or only warning, should be reported on q:Wikiquote:Vandalism in progress, with the following syntax, for IP addresses: * {{IPvandal|INSERT IP ADDRESS}}<br> Vandalism after the last or only warning. ~~~~ and * {{Vandal|INSERT USER}}<br>Vandalism after the last or only warning. ~~~~ for accounts. The header or thread text should read: New report {{CURRENTYEAR}}-{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTTIME}}
  • Feature: On the other hand, I noticed that there's a problem with the speed deletion warnings in Spanish Wikipedia. SWViewer is using speedy deletions warnings from Huggle, which are now outdated and we now use the following syntax: {{subst:Aviso destruir|PAGE NAME HERE|REASON HERE}} ~~~~. The other speedy deletion criteria can be found in es:WP:CBR.

-Alabama- (talk) 19:23, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

@-Alabama- All of these can be changed by anyone. You just need to edit SWViewer/config.json. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:14, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 09:26, 21 April 2024 (UTC)