Talk:Wikimedia Fundraising page

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japanese translation[edit]

Hello. I wonder if I or others can volunteer to make a Japanese version of the same page. I am not sure what the policy is regarding preservation of revision history, but it seems that copying a revision history becomes possible for administrators when we have mediawiki ver.1.3.

So, maybe when that happens, could someone copy this page and let me know? Thanks, Tomos 02:36, 19 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

No need to copy - just translate and leave a note in the first edit summary that that version is translated from Wikimedia Fundraising page. --mav 10:26, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've finished the first draft. I will call for others' help now. So would you keep the page unprotected? Also, it is better if we could review how it looks on the web. And here I have some questions:
  1. "Collection cost" is same as the kind of transaction fee that banks charge to the Foundation? Or is there anything else implied by this term?
  2. What does "Paypal verified" mean?
  3. The provisional budget says we need about 10,000 to 15,000, it seems. The fund raising page says 20,000 - 40,000. Is this because Jimbo will pay for the traffic?

Tomos 22:16, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Neat! I won't protect that page until it goes live on the foundation website. FYI - stuff like {{WikimediaFundraisingPage}} or any other wiki code will not work on the foundation website. Oh and I don't think it is a good idea to have any part of the page title in English - IMO it should all be in Japanese. A developer will have to set up the page export.

  1. Alex wrote that part but I'm fairly certain that 'collection cost' would be bank fees and the time needed to process non-U.S. checks.
  2. PayPal Verified simply means that we have provide proof that we have a bank account. So it is a type of screening by proxy that PayPal does.
  3. The provisional hardware budget is almost certainly too optimistic. I'm going to work on formulating a better estimate.

--mav 01:18, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers. I made an announcement at ja.wikipedia asking for help, removed the template tag, made some minor corrections, brought up the issue of japanese title at its talk page. Regarding the page title, will it work if I (or someone) will just move the page to a page with japanese title? Or should we embed the title info. somewhere inside the page?
And I will keep an eye on how the budget page changes, and make changes accordingly to the japanese fundraising page. Tomos 04:18, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
NP :) Yep - just move the page with a title that makes sense (something like a translation of the English page title). --mav


SWIFT account[edit]

The page should show the foundation's account number and the bank's SWIFT code, so that people can wire money directly to the bank account. See www.swift.com for general information, but I'm sure the bank will know about it. Zocky 13:49, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Credit card processing[edit]

Now that we're planning to process tens of thousands of dollars in donations again, we should handle our own CC billing. With the demonstration of volume provided by the last fundraising drive, we should be able to negotiate something better than 2.5% + $0.30/transaction. +sj+ 15:21, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

EU bank account[edit]

It might also be a good idea to open a bank account in an EU country, for the deposit of EU donations without international fees. +sj+


Older commentary[edit]

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Wow! This is cool. --Maveric149

OK. The text here is getting way too long! For God's sake we want people to donate, not get bored silly reading gobs of text. On standard res screens you can no longer see the donation links. This has to change ASAP. --Maveric149

Page is much better now. The "why donate" part now needs some trimming... --mav

The bit about international money orders is repeated in such a way that it reads a bit oddly. I'm not sure in which spot it fits best, and maybe it should be repeated; but if so, then it would read better if the second time at least said something like "As we mentioned above," in it. I can't make this change myself, since the page is protected. (Perhaps I should become an administrator on [[meta:]]. Where does one ask for this privelege?) -- Toby Bartels 02:21, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Please do become a meta Admin and edit the page to improve it. Just ask Brion. --Maveric149 02:25, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)
In the interim (until you become a meta admin) I made a few changes; it is a little choppy. I think the thing about money orders should be repeated, it cannot be stressed too much for those sending money from outside the US. If someone sends a check for $25 drawn on a foreign bank the contribution may be useless as the collection fees (the cost the bank imposes for sending the check 'out for collection" a procedure that is different than regular domestic check processing). I don't know if people know how much bank notes are limited by national boundaries and how much these fees can be. I think the last foreign cheque I received the bank charged me $75 to collect it (no kidding) and it took two months to get the money (it would have been cheaper and quicker to send it via telex overnight wire transfer which might also be an option for large contributions sent from another country).
Actually a lot of banks in the US are now allowing interbank fund transfers for a small fee. This might be something that we eventually mention (need the bank account number for that), though there is usually a fee with those transfers, but less than a wire transfer fee. Alex756

The word 'for' is duplicated in the section headed 'Deductibility of donations'. "except for for U.S. residents...". I've just realised how annoying protected pages are. :) Angela 14:18, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Please become a meta Admin! We need more. Yes, it is annoying but this is page has forms on it; if we allowed anybody to edit it then somebody could easily change the donating email address to their own, or worse they could redirect people to their own "secure" website that looked exactly like the PayPal one at a similar domain name and then they can get people's credit card and bank account access information. So protecting this page is even more important than protecting the en.wikis Main Page. Typo fixed. Thanks! --Maveric149 20:33, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I completely understand why it is protected so I wasn't arguing against that, just saying I remember what it was like to not be a sysop! :) (and I did ask Brion on his to-do list if I could be sysop here). Angela 21:07, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I was pretty sure you understood. That message was for the other people who are probably reading what we write. --mav

Just did a google search for Wikipedia, only returned 2.950.000 hits. And searching for Wikipedia -site:wikipedia.org (that is, excluding wikipedia.org pages from the search) only gives 585.000... Cyp 21:24, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Check again after setting your Google preferences to search all languages (not just English or whatever you have set). I got 4,390,000 for just <Wikipedia> and 980,000 for <Wikipedia -site:wikipedia.org> . But the second search seems to be more fair, so how 'bout we say "about a million outside references to Wikipedia" or something like that? --Maveric149 23:09, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
It seems to be set to search all languages (as default), and google.dk and google.jp return about the same number of results (which isn't exactly the same as before). But setting it to exclude all results containing "fnord meow squeak" increases the number of sites found by quite a bit... Saying about a million outside references is fine with me, at least, especially considering that it doesn't seem to precisely defined by google... Cyp 02:43, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I went ahead and removed it. <Wikipedia -site:wikipedia.org> is just too hard to explain to non-Google geeks in an elegant way. --Maveric149 06:19, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I have changed the text about the automatic exempt status for small organizations. There is no way now that Wikimedia will benefit from this, a good reason to get the paperwork going to the IRS for exempt status soon. Alex756 06:52, 11 Jan 2004 (UTC)

MoneyBookers[edit]

The current page is listing only the Paypal donation option. You can also give whit MoneyBookers.

The main difference is that MoneyBookers is much cheaper. I have send a posting to list about this but no action has been taken.

I now suggest to change the text to include MoneyBookers and make MoneyBookers the preferred donation channel.

I have made a first draft on this page User:Walter/Kladblok. Feel free to edit it. Walter 17:06, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The "Donated without giving money" box should be small and on the right side but can not fix directy. Walter 16:29, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Added. --mav
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