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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello PiRSquared17, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing! Huib talk 18:28, 10 May 2010 (UTC)


Special:Contribs/2602:304:AF53:3E99:70AB:F702:6722:4F0A. I'm not knowledgeable about this type of stuff. Could you check whether anything got damaged in these edits or whether they should be like that? (Sorry, but I don't know whom to contact about this type of stuff. :p) --Glaisher [talk] 17:42, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

@Glaisher: I really don't know what is better. You might want to ask User:Verdy p. PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:48, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
I've fixed the template as it had incorrect wikisyntax (mixup of opening/closing noinclude tags, incorrect parameter names, broken links), and invalid or very verbose/inefficient/non portable CSS/HTML (alignment problems, RTL layout broken for Arabic/Hebrew, incorrect language tagging...), it also used an outdated and unmaintained method for just a few fallbacks. verdy_p (talk) 22:57, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, Verdy p and Pi. --Glaisher [talk] 08:32, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


Como o Verdy disse que eu traduzi errado nas Categorias, não vou mais traduzir nenhuma Categoria. Não sei mais o correto a fazer nelas. No meu perfil de usuário da Meta a palavra Categoria não funciona, o que está funcionando lá é o Category. Ana Mercedes Gauna (talk) 21:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

You have not understood at all what I said you!
You have translated things in the correct items. But you wanted to include English words in the proposed Portuguese translation or removed existing Portuguese words to replace them by English where it is absolutely not required (and often undesirable).
This is not needed at all. "Categoria(s)" is the correct Portuguese word for translating the English word "Category(ies)" and you did not need to change it back to English EVEN IF it is used in the namespace part of the pagename (you are NOT creating new pagenames, you create ONLY a Portuguese title, visible at top in the wiki page).
When you translate anything from English to Portuguese, translate **all** the English text, as long as it makes sense in Portuguese.
Also you absolutely need to read the doc: don't translate template names between "Template:" and "

Translations on outreach[edit]

I was considering unmarking a page for translation (specifically this page which was turned into a redirect a few days ago) when I realized, I needed translation admin rights for that to happen. I think we should unmark redirects for translation as there's not much to translate, but if you want to be safe you can ask ragesoss first. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 10:37, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Removed from translation. PiRSquared17 (talk) 12:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Just a heads up, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program page also got turned into a redirect for now but it's still marked for translation. An idea I have in mind: why not just have translation automatically removed when a page is converted into a redirect and then automatically restored when it becomes otherwise? TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 11:20, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for support[edit]

Hello PiRSquared17! Your support was much appreciated, thank you. I also want to place a RfTA in MediaWiki and Incubator but can't find the appropriate pages for it. Could you point me in the right direction, please? --WikiBronze [T] 21:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

mw:Project:Requests for incubator:I:RFA, but please read the 'Translators & translation administrators' section on that page. --Glaisher [talk] 05:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the links Glaisher! I have read the 'Translators & translation administrators' section. --WikiBronze [T] 13:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for missing this. PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem! Thanks anyway :) --WikiBronze [T] 17:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-14[edit]

April Fools[edit]

Good god...--AldNonUcallin?☎ 04:04, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

What he said! Quiddity (talk) 05:48, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
¿sıɥʇ sɐ ɥɔns sʇıpǝ ǝʌısnqɐ ɹoɟ ǝɯ ʞuɐɥʇ oʇ ǝʌɐɥ noʎ op ʎɥʍ--Glaisher [talk] 15:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
˙unɟ ʎlǝʌᴉsnqɐ sᴉ ƃuᴉʞuɐɥʇ ǝsnɐɔǝq PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:23, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-15[edit]

Open proxy[edit]

[19] The IP is a "network sharing device," i.e, is accessed by mobile phones or other wireless network devices. Perhaps the custom is to include this in "open proxy," but it's not the same as what I've known as open proxies, where a user, say, in Switzerland, could appear to be editing from an open proxy in China. But I suppose that any Chinese user could set up, with their mobile equipment, such a proxy service, so maybe some do. They would receive the message, through their domain, and resend it over the mobile network for a small monthly fee. The IP would be China Mobile. The user agent could be spoofed. Or it could be done here, I could do it, with AT&T. Of course, that would be a violation of my phone TOS and I could lose my phone service.... I think I'll choose some other way to make money.... --Abd (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


! --Glaisher [talk] 15:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

@Glaisher: Abuse. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:40, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
May I ask what/who PiRSquared17 abused? Vogone talk 16:04, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Everything. John F. Lewis (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Abused everything. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
@Vogone: Abuse. --Glaisher [talk] 16:41, 10 April 2014 (UTC) Special:Log/thanks
Funny... thank you for spamming me with the thanks log... :D.--AldNonUcallin?☎ 16:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm going to try thanking people for edits I respected (maybe even disagree with, but who make significant positive contributions) and see if it increase their morale. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:58, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Pssst pssst for some people it's an annoyance keep it at moderate level. ;) --AldNonUcallin?☎ 17:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
How about once per user per week? PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I am in school and currently, my teacher is teaching us, thanks for thanking me, but thats normal for me ;-) --Goldenburg111 17:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Once per week? Outrageous! you should do 1-twice a day.--AldNonUcallin?☎ 17:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Wikimedia Blog/Drafts/Heartbleed[edit]

Tech News: 2014-16[edit]


As one of the people who bailed out of Laura's efforts on TWG, I feel it is appropriate - should you not have seen notice elsewhere - to highlight that I'm trying to restart discussion in a more-open manner.

--Brian McNeil / talk 14:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


Howdy. I've left a request on your en.wp talk page for another DB query. Best, — Scott talk 14:36, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi! I saw your request but I've been a bit busy in real life. I'll reply right away. Sorry for the delay. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News #17[edit]

Thanks so much for your help with Tech News #17. It looks like a great issue to me, so many interesting this to report! odder (talk) 22:40, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for giving me autopatrol user right Face-smile.svg. I hope I will do right use of it. Tauhid (talk) 05:12, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Face-smile.svg PiRSquared17 (talk) 05:13, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for advice[edit]

[42] Vituzzu is globally inactive for over 9 days now. How long do you think I should wait before going to Steward requests/Global? Any other advice? --Abd (talk) 00:40, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

You can do so whenever you want. Maybe tomorrow or the day after? Advice: make sure to explain why you disagree with the locks, but provide a summary maybe. PiRSquared17 (talk) 00:50, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Well, did I explain that adequately? (I'm not disagreeing with the first lock, per se, I'm suggesting that the job was done and it can be lifted, to allow Augusto De Luca to participate if that's what he still wants. The other locks, yes, they are far outside of what global lock policy, such as it is, allows, and the locks may be causing ongoing damage, as those who know reliable sources for Augusto De Luca articles may be unable to contribute, and as those who know or could obtain the details of licensing of images, similarly. The claim of "spam only accounts" was blatantly false for those additional accounts. Vituzzu meant "promotion," and promotion, per se, is not against policy and does not legitimate locking. (Fans promote their favorite topics, employees promote their companies, and the latter are generally guided by COI policy. They are not prohibited from promotion that discloses conflict of interest, as the Augusto De Luca pages did, obviously.) If "promotional behavior" results in local bans, and there is then a global ban discussion, yes, then locks can come into play. As you likely know, that has never happened for promotion. --Abd (talk) 03:23, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-17[edit]


The global lock for Augusto De Luca is at least arguable. For the other users, I don't see how stewards could support it and still care at all about policy and restraint. At the suggestion of Billinghurst, I am starting to draft an RfC, maybe two, but I have little hope that it could change things. This is how the wikis go, it's based on the w:Iron law of oligarchy. Once a power elite is formed, it almost never allows its power to be reduced in favor of a more even distribution. It has many "good reasons" for this, it is very normal human behavior, even though it is quite tempting to ascribe it to "bad people." No, the structure, coupled with survival instincts, guides and molds the behavior that we see.

We can have an RfC, and might even develop some policy, but what must be noticed that policy can and will be disregarded. More often, consensus is blocked by those who might be restrained by a policy. Thus the wikis become highly conservative. That is, they preserve existing power.

At the same time, such centralized power is highly inefficient, long-term. It cannot compete in the modern world. It cannot develop the true power of collective consensus, because it gradually separates itself from such. Wikipedia enshrined "consensus," but disregarded all the work of the twentieth century on genuine consensus formation. That is probably because it is not generally known how to develop consensus "quickly." I.e, it's not "wiki." Organizations that operate on true consensus are famous for the long and patient conversations that are necessary.

An appearance of consensus can arise, though, if dissent is blocked, or is so frustrated that it simply goes away.

I saw, again and again, the antispammers complain about lack of volunteers to deal with the antispam business. So, on Wikipedia, I started clerking the whitelist request page. Whitelisting is what made blacklisting tolerable. I.e, if you need a link to a useful web site, and if delisting is requested, you are told that you can always get a page whitelisted. Sounds reasonable. The actual fact was that requestw would sit on the whitelist page for months, with no action. I did propose that the whitelisting process be separated from the blacklisting, with ordinary users clerking requests and presenting them. If a user is a user in good standing, my opinion was, they should be able to request a specific page whitelisting, quickly. It probably should be automated. Why there was no action for months was that the blacklist administrators, the only ones who looked at those pages, usually, thought it was their job to assess whether or not a link was "reliable source." So they were really making, as administrators, content decisions. One would think that this would be up to the article editors, not the blacklist administrators!

I was required to stop clerking that page because it was considered to violate my MYOB ban, imposed by ArbCom, which prohibited me from intervening in disputes. But I wasn't intervening in disputes, I was assisting users in presenting their requests, doing the research, checking facts, etc., simply making recommendations. There was no complaint about my actual actions. The real problem: I was confronting the myths on which Wikipedia operates.

In the Augusto De Luca case, identifying the massive account creation and stopping it, a few minutes work. Deciding to go cross-wiki and delete harmless user pages, many hours.

Setting up a procedure for temporary locks to stop problems, to allow a user to be warned, easy. It takes less than a minute if the link is set up to lift a lock. All it would take is a page for that. But the antispammers don't want real solutions, that would make their job easier.

As part of the RfC, I will probably look at the case. The damage from that is still lingering. I don't know how many blacklistings or locks are problematic, it might be a very small percentage, but the administrators who run that seem to have a basic principle: we never make mistakes. If one sets up a decent appeal process, it gets easier to make decisions, not harder, because the whole thing becomes wiki, i.e, mistakes can be easily fixed. But if you never make mistakes, hey, who needs an appeal process?

I'm not seeing any hope. Maybe I'm just getting old. --Abd (talk) 01:36, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

You asked[edit]


Because water is wet and sky is blue. I'm not seeking the fellow out. He just filed an emergency request on Wikiversity, just as quickly rejected, he violated an interaction ban declared there, to warn me about what he "informed" the global community about here. As with here, previously in another situation, he said, on WV, "block me if you must, but Abd blah blah." So PRS, ask him. I assume he knows best what his motivations are. In the past, I've seen editors who made me their target. It's less true of this one than some in the past. They really didn't mind if they got blocked or banned, as long as I got sanctioned. I wrote that this was "weird." It certainly is. Vituzzu removed my comment from the report page, because it wasn't a report. But it is a vandalism report page. Vituzzu's "report" -- with no real information -- did not belong there, and neither did this piece of "information" about me, unless removing a speedy deletion tag, based on informed opinion, is "vandalism."
If you ask me, and looking at those pages without the very ugly speedy deletion tags, they were vandalism, taking a thing of beauty, and defacing it. Yeah, they have the right to do that. But I also have the right to remove the tag, every user does.
The antispammers believe that they have consensus. They do in general, but not specifically, and I've found situations before -- and confronted them -- where their actions obviously did not have consensus, not the real consensus of the community, they only seem to enjoy consensus when "specialists" communicate in spaces that nobody else reads, dedicating to "fighting spam". They believe that they are in a massive battle to save Wikipedia -- see the image on w:WP:Wikiproject spam, and they really do think this way -- and, in war, everything dedicated to "winning" is legitimized. Too bad about collateral damage, it's a shame, but we must do this.
And that situation continues because very few people are aware of it. And the real shame of it is that fighting spam could be done much more efficiently, with far less collateral damage. Augusto De Luca was not skillful, another sign of his not being a "spammer." If someone wanted to damage the project with massive vandalism or spam it could be done trivially, and would be too difficult to detect, at this point, i.e., to stop in time, and then there would be thousands of pages WMF-wide to deal with. They don't have the tools or the consensus to handle this, it may probably have to happen before anything is done. What Augusto De Luca did could be undone in less time than it took him to do it. I know, studying what he did, how to do it in much less time than he took.
Those Augusto pages were harmless, which is one reason why it took so long to identify and stop him (creation of a half-dozen spam user pages is detected and interdicted rapidly, because you have thousands of administrators and others watching for it.); in fact, they did not stop him, he was done. All they stopped him from doing was the next step, perhaps setting up email notification or making some comments here and there. It's pretty obvious that some of his registrations/user pages were useless. But many were not, potentially.
They are fighting ghosts, creations of their own imagination, and they wasted hours on this one. Meanwhile, the real paid editors have free reign. They do not arouse the attention of the antispammers, it's rare, and it's pretty obvious: the best have never been detected. --Abd (talk) 00:42, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-18[edit]

Table background colors[edit]


pt:Anexo:Lista de cores unsigned comment by Amgauna (talk)

Yes? What about those? PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:24, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

São duas tabelas de cores. O código hexadecimal nelas funciona no Mediawiki para programar as cores. Eu colori o meu perfil. :-) Ana Gauna (talk) 02:33, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Wikimedia Highlights, March 2014[edit]

Rosetta barnstar[edit]

Rosetta Barnstar.png The Meta-Wiki Rosetta barnstar 2013
For being among the top 40 Meta-Wiki translators in 2013, with over 500 translation units edits! If I knew all the Wikimedia languages I'd also compliment you for how spot-on your translations are, but I must leave that to your language colleagues. :) Cheers, Nemo 21:47, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


Aren't you PiR from simple Wiktionary? -- 20:34, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Yes, but I am not as active on Simple English wikis as I used to be. This is my userpage there. Why do you ask? PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Well, I heard about goldenburg, he is also at wikia, he talks to me a lot, and he wanted me to meet you, you look nice. Oh, I am possibly inviting another friend here, she is sweet :) -- 01:54, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikimedia then. :-) I do know Goldenburg111 (on-wiki and on IRC), he is very nice. You seem nice as well. Feel free to invite others here. Have you considered contributing to Wikipedia or other Wikimedia projects in addition to Wikia? PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:49, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Ah, yes :) I can't wait for him too come. Sadly, the "Sweet friend" does not seem interested in contributing, but rather talking, I would like her to meet you too PR. --Goldenburg111 14:30, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Public relations? Vogone (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
We are welcoming a new user here, anything wrong about that? --Goldenburg111 18:23, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
No, I was merely wondering whether you were referring to Public relations ("I would like her to meet you too PR"). Vogone (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-19[edit]

Replying to your note on my talk page[edit]

Hi PiRSquared17 and thanks for your note. I'd be happy to do an exit interview for/with community members. If you or others want to compile questions please feel free, and you can drop them on my talkpage (or wherever you like) once you're ready. I'm still in my position until 1 June, so there's no huge rush. (And if the questions take longer to compile that's okay too: I can answer them whenever they're ready. Thanks Sue Gardner (talk) 00:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: My script[edit]

Hi PiRSquared! I'm so sorry if I disappointed or made you angry in any ways :-(. I had used your script almost one month ago (or little more) before you deleted it. I just followed the instructions I had found here. However, if there is something I can do to fix my mistakes, just explain it to me. --Nastoshka (talk) 06:01, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


Dear PiRSquared17, the user 9oo it's a sockpuppetry of NebrazkaBIEBER [102], please review the CA of the user. Kind regards ♫♫ Leitoxx ♪♪ 01:26, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

That user is indeed a cross-wiki sockmaster (cuwiki), with several accounts blocked on eswiki, eswikinews and Commons. LlamaAl (talk) 01:37, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
I already saw before I replied, but I would give them the benefit of the doubt (AGF). You say some of their accounts are blocked on Commons, but "9oo" isn't. Have they ever vandalized, trolled, or otherwise disrupted Meta? Have any of their accounts been globally locked? I can't see cuwiki, so maybe I'm missing something. PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Hola, soy titere de NebrazkaBIEBER, pero e cambiado y ahora quiero ayudar, ademas que los "crimenes" que cometi fueron en Wikipedia, no en los proyectos hermanos, asi es que no hay razones para que me bloqueen aqui.

PD: Ya me canse de hacer vandalidades me gustaria ayudar en los Proyectos hermanos... y eso adios This Is It MJ (talk) 17:55, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

@PiRSquared::This user have more of 15 stockpuppetry and present 3 lock. ♫♫ Leitoxx ♪♪ 01:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
@9oo:, pues, no has mostrado ningún cambio. Sigues igual con tu conducta. Creas y creas cuentas para inscribir y promocionar Wkiproyectos. ♫♫ Leitoxx ♪♪ 01:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Toolserver replace with[edit]

[103] Can you help me to fix error in my JavaScript in sh wiki? --Kolega2357 (talk) 11:27, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-20[edit]


Hi PiRSquared17! Please see about d:Template:Q'. Can you help please? Thanks in advance! gangLeri ‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 15:20, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Replied on project chat. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:52, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
There are some new issues at d:user talk:PiRSquared17/Q'. Regards gangLeri ‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 10:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-21[edit]

User:Abd/Antispam practices/Santarelli/IP addresses[edit]

Hi, this page was deleted by Vituzzu. As it happens, I did not make a copy of it off-wiki. As he has requested suppression, would you mind making a copy of the deleted page? I have requested that he email me the deleted wikitext, which should not be a problem because I was the only author, but he hasn't been responsive in the past, and someone with oversight might suppress it at any time. I know you don't have email enabled, but it was a nuisance to compile that data, I think (I don't remember how much was there). If you have a copy, it could save me and the oversighters some trouble. --Abd (talk) 11:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but even if I did have a copy of this, I don't think I would give it to you. For almost any other deletion reason I would do it, but violations of privacy need to be taken seriously. PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:43, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Wait, this is all data that I collected, from public logs, I merely neglected to keep that particular page data off-wiki. There could be no privacy violation from supplying me with data that I collected.
This was the least important page in the study, I think.
I can easily collect it again, unless, of course, the stewards suppress record of their own actions. However, all hell broke loose today, and I don't expect you to stick your neck out. It looks, now, like the entire study has been deleted, and possibly suppressed. I do have the rest of the material. I am ceasing on-wiki activity with regard to all this, for obvious reasons. --Abd (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
I do realize that you compiled this yourself and could do it again, but I really don't want to get involved in this drama. If there are allegations of privacy violations, I take them seriously. I recommend that you contact an OS if you would like the wikitext. I don't feel comfortable providing text (assuming I have it) that is now even hidden to myself. (P.S. thanks for calling me "generally sane") PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, as I noted above, suppression had been requested. In any case, I am now being saved a lot of work. When I thank the involved stewards, I'm serious. Either my work is useless or it is not. If it is useless, it being shut down saves me a great deal of time. If it is not useless, some actions far more direct and to the point now exist for examination, that I could not have myself created. I just won't be the one to examine them, not here, not any time soon.
That particular page is almost irrelevant now. I may still ask for text, I'm not yet sure if I have everything. But it is not urgent at all. I won't be pursuing this here, unless it is very, very carefully. I have no plan to do anything here immediately. Basic understanding: if there is no community support, questioning the status quo is useless, even studying it is useless. The shame here is that the pages attacked nobody. It could be argued that the *data* showed problems, but very little there was even about that. Almost all actions documented seemed reasonable legitimate, with -- for the most part -- the only problems noted being, quite likely, cases where policy should be improved, not a steward blamed. --Abd (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

User Rights on Beta Wikipedia[edit]

Hello Pi,

I was wondering whether Importer rights can be accessed via bureaucrat rights. (Comment: Wow, your talk page is very lengthy.) --JustBerry (talk) 18:18, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Apparently, as an admin, you can import from Meta and a few other wikis. If you need to import from one of the wikis not in the import list, you would need the "importupload" right, which I can give you. What exactly do you need it for? See Special:ListGroupRights on beta for more information. (By the way, I don't have access to deployment-prep so I can't change configuration settings directly. However, I can get others to if you want.) PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:31, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
P.S. @JustBerry: is this page less length now?
@PiRSquared17: Yes, it is less length now. As per the user rights, I wanted to import a few templates from enwp - what other wikis can I import from as an admin? Where/how? --JustBerry (talk) 18:51, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@JustBerry: I meant to write "lengthy", haha. I will grant you importupload rights so you can import from the (production) enwiki. To do so, go to w:Special:Export on production and download the XML for a page. Then go to "Special:Import" on Beta, and upload the XML. Really, you can just copy and paste with a note in the edit summary, which is probably easier. Special:Import allows keeping the history at least. Re: other wikis, go to Special:Import on Beta, and select the wiki you want from the drop-down menu. For example, if you select "meta" and type in a page name, you will import that page. You don't need to import the whole history. Basically, read help:import or the equivalent on or en.wikipedia. PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: Okay, sounds great. I'm surprised that enwp isn't supported in Special:Import on Beta Wikipedia. Any idea why? --JustBerry (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@JustBerry: probably because that wiki is itself "enwiki" and the configuration was copied from production. I suppose it could be added. For now, just use XML export/import or copy/paste. PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:05, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: Where can we request that to be added? --JustBerry (talk) 20:40, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: Also, Selenium user appears to be having a lot of activity in Recent Changes. Charmlet had also made a similar comment about a year ago. What are the user's actions being used for? Any ideas? --JustBerry (talk) 18:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Selenium is an automated browser used for testing web applications. Since Beta is updated whenever code is changed on the "master" branch, these tests ensure that the latest version of the code works. I think the code is here (and also on You can probably ask w:User:Zeljko.filipin if you have any questions. PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:19, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: Okay, great. Also, I was wondering if you had any particularly interesting coding projects you are working on currently that I may be able to join in. In addition, I am thinking of creating a user rights permission application page. Do you think this might be a good idea? I think Beta Wikipedia needs to be organized better for newer users, what do you think? --JustBerry (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
I'm working on a few side-projects right now, mostly minor bug fixes and new features. (Examples: "Show block notice on contribs for range-blocked IP", "Add reference list to section preview if missing") If you want to help develop MediaWiki or extensions, I recommend you read "How to become a MediaWiki hacker" (this sense of the word "hacker"). You can join us on IRC in #wikimedia-dev, #wikimedia-tech, #mediawiki, etc. If we're going to add permission applications pages to the Beta English Wikipedia, we should also create the relevant pages on "". Anyway, there is little reason to ever decline a request for adminship on Beta, since there's not much you can break. PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:05, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: Well, I was just trying to be a little bureaucratic (horrible joke - why it's funny: I'm a bureaucrat on Beta now). Okay, let me see if I can join IRC a bit later. --JustBerry (talk) 20:40, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: What's your username on IRC? unsigned comment by JustBerry (talk) 20:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: WikiLang[edit]

Hello. Thanks for writing the conversion system on Old English Wikipedia, it's awesome. I've read briefly the proposal. As a language enthusiast, I believe that it could be a great project on minority languages. However, I have some doubts about the necessity of its existence. Below I list out some purposes of WikiLang as stated in the proposal to express my doubts:

  1. Language documentation: I still think that this can be done on various language versions of Wikibooks. The proposal says "When complete dictionaries or courses are developed they will be moved to the appropriate sister projects", so is Wikilang barely an incubator of language matters on other existing projects? And without this project, people can still write in the language of their choice. No one stops them from writing about a native language of Central America on the Spanish Wikibooks. Also, It seems to me that a new project is not needed to provide a central location, as we can add inter-wiki links on the relevant pages of different projects.
  2. Language revitalisation: Again, we can do it directly on Wikibooks, Wiktionary or Wikiversity. If the information I have about a language is so scarce that I can't write about it on the existing projects, I don't see the meaning of writing it on WikiLang.
  3. Sprachausbau: I don't believe that we have the ability to reverse language shift, build a lexicon for a minority language, find a standard variety, etc. They are just too complicated for us to do. Doing so requires a lot of knowledge on linguistics and the language we would be working on. And there would be endless discussions and controversies as many non-experts would participate. Even consensuses are reached, the credibility is doubted. It's better to leave the job to the linguists.
  4. Living dictionaries: If a language is so small that there is not a single dictionary, I don't suppose that we can gather people for a living dictionary. Even if we could, I don't trust the answers they provide as I cannot verify them with reliable references. A bored person can create a lexicon all by himself and claim that it is of a certain moribund language. How could I know that he's lying?
  5. Little projects: Actually, I can't think of an example of a product that doesn't fit any existing projects. Please suggest me one.

The aim of this proposed project is great. However, because of the above doubts, I cannot support it at this moment. Please reply me to solve my questions. If this project can really help raise people's awareness about minority languages, or even save or revitalize one, I would strongly support and participate in this project. Thank you!

P.S. My English is not perfect. If it causes any misunderstanding, please let me know. Professorjohnas (talk) 07:54, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-22[edit]

08:29, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Wikimedia Highlights, April 2014[edit]

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Thank you for the CentralNotice banner![edit]

Hi πr², thank you so much for the quick response! Regards, María Cruz (WMAR) (talk) 17:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-23[edit]

08:07, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for MassMessage Permissions[edit]

Hi there. I would like to be granted the MassMessage permission here on meta. I see through Special:ListUsers that many other autopatrollers like myself have this right. Please send me your opinion on this request. Thanks. Akifumii (talk) 15:06, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

@Akifumii: What message would you like to send? If this is a one-time message, I could just send it for you. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I am considering the Online Ambassador program on the English Wikipedia and sending MassMessages to other mentors and students from Meta may be useful. Akifumii (talk) 17:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

@Akifumii: you can send mass messages from enwiki too. Unless you know how to use it and have an actual need to send messages to multiple wikis on a semi-regular basis, I would prefer not to grant this. However, other admins may disagree and agree to grant the right. If you are sure you will need it and that you know how to use MassMessage, then I might be convinced to grant it. Your account seems a little new to trust with this also. PiRSquared17 (talk) 19:22, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I may request in the future. Akifumii (talk) 21:13, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Fundraising/Translation/Thank you email 20140606[edit]

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Tech News: 2014-24[edit]

07:39, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Grants:APG/Funds Dissemination Committee/Advisory Group/Recommendations/2014[edit]

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On WikiLang[edit]

Hello. I started a discussion about the feasibility of the project on Talk:WikiLang. Please come and express your opinion. :) Professorjohnas (talk) 12:00, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

I indeed got your message. I'm sorry I haven't had time to reply, I've been a bit busy lately. (You may be interested to know I have been working on transliteration for Hakka.) PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I missed your chat[edit]

Hi, sorry I missed you there, I was out for dinner. Now I'm back if you're still on IRC. Bennylin 13:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm still here. Are you online? PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:27, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Please test the new feature Special:PageMigration[edit]

As a Google Summer of Code Intern, I have been working on the Mass Migration tools project for Wikimedia. We are now ready with a minimal working product. The tool helps translators and translation administrators import the old translations into the Translate Extension.

An instance of the same has been set up on labs. You can find some useful instructions on the main page.

Please test the tool and report bugs/suggestions using the link provided on the main page itself. You can have a look at the tracking bug to check already reported bugs.

Looking forward to hearing from you! Cheers. BPositive (talk) 14:33, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-25[edit]

07:13, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Would you take a look at a request from a user?[edit]

[212]. I saw this request in the RfC because it's on my watchlist from that attempted close. I moved it to Talk and looked into it. It appears that a revision deletion on the page has a suppressed log, which is odd for something like this, since the revision editor is visible. I'm asking you rather than on sysop requests, assuming you can act here. If not, will you pass this on as a courtesy to the requesting user? He's blocked on, and the editor who placed the link in question is not (nor is the user whose revision was deleted), but at least the request should be considered.

Tech News: 2014-26[edit]

07:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Latest Character batch upload request[edit]

Hi PiRSquared17,

I have replied on your Mediawiki talk page. --Hak-ngìn (talk) 01:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-27[edit]

06:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

It worked anyway[edit]

--Glaisher (talk) 17:33, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Wikimedia Highlights, May 2014[edit]

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IP edit deletion request[edit]


I made an edit on without knowing I had logged out. Please help delete that IP edit to conceal my IP address from public view (I am referring to this edit). Thanks. --S205645 (talk) 07:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done PiRSquared17 (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-28[edit]

07:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Transliteration tool request for Mindong Wikipedia[edit]

Hi PiRSquared17,

The Mindong Wikipedia also needs to have a transliteration tool to convert articles from chinese characters to Romanized Foochowese similar to that for Hakka. I have translated 6,104 of the most commonly used chinese characters into Romanized Foochowese here and a short description has been added here.

Would you be so kind as to help create a transliteration tool as you had done for Hakka Wikipedia? Thanks. --S205645 (talk) 12:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Sure, after I'm done with Hakka. PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-29[edit]

07:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Pages translation - Brazilian Group[edit]

Hello my friend,

Can you help me enabling the localization of the both pages

I changed the original texts to english and I have the texts in Brazilian portuguese to add after that function enabled.

Best regards

Rodrigo Padula (talk) 19:58, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-30[edit]

07:41, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Unblock me in tetum wikipedia[edit]

I did not break rules but I was INFINITY blocked (already 5 months blocked) CYl7EPTEMA777 (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to remove a local sysop's block, but I will ask the blocking admin to consider unblocking you. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-31[edit]

08:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Purge option in menu[edit]

Hi. Several sl: wikis lack the option "Purge" ("Osveži" in slovene) in the upper menu. Where can that be fixed? --Janezdrilc (talk) 21:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

@Janezdrilc: That is a gadget, not part of MediaWiki software so by default, it is not installed in all wikis. From what I can see, it has been installed at Wikipedia, Wikisource, Wikibooks of sl language wikis. You'll have to ask local administrators at other wikis to install it. Code can be found here: sl:MediaWiki:Gadget-purgetab.js. --Glaisher (talk) 16:07, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hm, on q:sl, where I'am an admin I copied the code but no tab is shown there anyway. --Janezdrilc (talk) 22:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

@Janezdrilc: It does work for me.. Did you enable the gadget at q:sl:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets? If it doesn't work after that, please clear your browser's cache. Also please remove the gadgets which are not installed locally from q:sl:MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. --Glaisher (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Now it works! Thank you very much. Bye, --Janezdrilc (talk) 22:15, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

By the way, do you thing that the purge option would be very usefull for registered users also or it would be too much burden for servers? --Janezdrilc (talk) 16:11, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-32[edit]

07:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-33[edit]

07:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Gender gap - Meta[edit]

Hi PiRSquared17! I wanted to change the wording of the second paragraph on the Gender gap - Meta page. While conversations around diversity in general can be sensitive, I thought we might frame the discussion of sensitivity so that it doesn't read as a kind of warning. What do you think? --Mssemantics (talk) 15:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

@Mssemantics: Go ahead. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Template:Localized link update[edit]

Hi! See last update of {{ll}} (documented). See example in Help:Protection - link to Help:View source is automatically localized in language of current page (if this translation is exist). See also mw:User_talk:Kaganer#Template:Ll. --Kaganer (talk) 10:28, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

@Kaganer: Very nice! Thank you for this, --Glaisher (talk) 15:32, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


Hiya PiR, just wanted to say hi. I don't see you around as much, you don't seem as active. I hope you're well. Are you still on IRC these days? I feel alone now that you're not stalking my edits. :P Take care. Theo10011 (talk) 11:31, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Theo. I haven't been around much lately, but I will probably resume my activity soon. I was on IRC a few days ago, but I'm not there regularly. Apparently Sue still hasn't answered the exit interview questions. PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-34[edit]

07:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Mailing lists/List info[edit]

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Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decitions[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on

I'm notifying you because you participated in one of several relevant discussions. -Pete F (talk) 22:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-35[edit]

09:21, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Superprotect letter update[edit]

Hi PiRSquared17,

Along with more hundreds of others, you recently signed Letter to Wikimedia Foundation: Superprotect and Media Viewer, which I wrote.

Today, we have 562 signatures here on Meta, and another 61 on, for a total of 623 signatures. Volunteers have fully translated it into 16 languages, and begun other translations. This far exceeds my most optimistic hopes about how many might sign the letter -- I would have been pleased to gain 200 siguatures -- but new signatures continue to come.

I believe this is a significant moment for Wikimedia and Wikipedia. Very rarely have I seen large numbers of people from multiple language and project communities speak with a unified voice. As I understand it, we are unified in a desire for the Wikimedia Foundation to respect -- in actions, in addition to words -- the will of the community who has built the Wikimedia projects for the benefit of all humanity. I strongly believe it is possible to innovate and improve our software tools, together with the Wikimedia Foundation. But substantial changes are necessary in order for us to work together smoothly and productively. I believe this letter identifies important actions that will strongly support those changes.

Have you been discussing these issues in your local community? If so, I think we would all appreciate an update (on the letter's talk page) about how those discussions have gone, and what people are saying. If not, please be bold and start a discussoin on your Village Pump, or in any other venue your project uses -- and then leave a summary of what kind of response you get on the letter's talk page.

Finally, what do you think is the right time, and the right way, to deliver this letter? We could set a date, or establish a threshold of signatures. I have some ideas, but am open to suggestions.

Thank you for your engagement on this issue, and please stay in touch. -Pete F (talk) 18:13, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Global Twinkle[edit]


The global twinkle is causing problems over at Wikidata. Some users who have it installed in their global.js had to blank the page in order to edit labels and sitelinks on Wikidata. What is going on? Can you help with this? When will it be safe to install again? Thanks. --Umafiy (talk) 23:09, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

I could make it so it just doesn't load. I could also probably make it work on Wikidata given a day and a good read of the API docs. I've been aware of this problem for months/years but never really got around to it. PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:19, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
I installed it back and really no change. FuzzyDice (talk) 02:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

PiRSquared17 How to change edit summary in Twinkle when reverting changes? --Kolega2357 (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

@Kolega2357: when you click the [rollback] button, you should be able to enter a summary. Note that this works for [AGF], but not [vandalism]. PiRSquared17 (talk) 22:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-36[edit]

07:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Single User Login finalisation announcement/RenameUser announcement[edit]

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Where have you been bro :( --Goldenburg111 20:24, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I've been a little busy lately. PiRSquared17 (talk) 22:44, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Have you retired from IRC??? --Kolega2357 (talk) 21:38, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Same here, right now at school. But I still manage to get on time ;) I think it is best for you to do what you have been doing for now. Hopefully you can come back. --Goldenburg111 14:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-37[edit]

09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Minor Issues With New Global Twinkle[edit]


A user has been having trouble with the new global twinkle. (Don't worry nothing that big!) This is what the user said: "I see one problem with it, all of the buttons and links are duplicated (on reverts and in the "TW" tab." Can this be fixed? Eurodyne (talk) 23:03, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Does the user have Twinkle installed already? PiRSquared17 (talk) 14:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Deployment now possible[edit]

Hi PiRSquared17,

I have left a message on your Mediawiki usertalk page. Thanks in advance. --Hak-ngìn (talk) 07:16, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikilang - Letter[edit]

Hello, I know it has been quite a while since I or anyone has been active on Wikilang. But I want to do the next step and contact institutions, organisations and persons and I am not quite sure what to write into the letter and whether the English is fine. Could you please look over it if you have some time? It is on the discussion page of Wikilang. Thanks a lot. Zylbath (talk) 16:49, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-38[edit]

08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Research:Global South User Survey 2014/Questions[edit]

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Ciao from Emily region[edit]

Dear old friend, mi spiace scriverti per una scocciatura, ma obiettivamente altre occasioni per salutarti non ne avevo avute (sorry), con tutto il traffico di impegni e scritture cui mi ero lanciata in eml.wkp...! La "scocciatura" sarebbe questa, poiché non mi sembra che la mia aggiunta della lingua emiliana nelle colonne e nelle righe, sia andata a buon fine. Te riesci a vedere come si potrebbe aggiustare la perfetta messa in colonna? Grazie mille della tua sicuramente migliore competenza. Bacioni, --Gloria sah (talk) 09:44, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

CIao Gloria sah. Quanto tempo! Mi sembra che sia corretto. Se hai bisogno di altro aiuto, non esitare a contattarmi! PiRSquared17 (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Grazie User:Verdy_p [414] PiRSquared17 (talk) 21:11, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : Research:Global South User Survey 2014/Questions[edit]

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Tech News: 2014-39[edit]

09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-40[edit]

09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-41[edit]

06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-42[edit]

08:53, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for my inactivity[edit]

Will hopefully be back soon. PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:27, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


Can you get in? I want a quick chat. Eurodyne (talk) 04:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Okay. PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:30, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
This was before your time so I don't blame you for not knowing. Check out Essjay incident which happened in 2006 and you can draw a lot of similarities between Essjay and Eurodyne. Both falsified their persona, qualifications, and using it to impact the quality of decisions made in his promotion. OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Adminship renewal[edit]

Ƿes þu hal,

My adminship at Wikiwordboc expired again; would you please cast your vote here, as you usually do?

How have you been?

Ic þe þancige,

Espreon (talk) 20:02, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Gothic Wikipedia transliteration[edit]


I forgot to mention that Zylbath at the Gothic Wikipedia is interested in that transliteration mechanism you made for our projects.

He asked about it here on Wikipædie.

Espreon (talk) 02:17, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I did. Thank you, Espreon. That'd be very nice if you could look over it. We would need it in Gothic script (by default), Latin and Runic script. Do you think that would be possible? Zylbath (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Notification de traduction : File metadata cleanup drive/How to fix metadata[edit]

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Tech News: 2014-43[edit]

13:48, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Re: Portal CSS2 compatibility[edit]

Oh, interesting. If you look at template/temp, the background value is compatible with CSS2, with background-size: 200px auto set separately. But running that code through CSS Minifier collapses the background-size value into background. That's too aggressive. Hopefully there's another online CSS minifier that lets us opt out of that shortcut; otherwise, it's time to roll our own as a Scribunto module. :^) – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 05:46, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I found a workaround, which is simply to put the occurrences of background-size in separate rules. CSS Minifier is offline at the moment; I'll retest when it comes back. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 06:16, 23 October 2014 (UTC)