Talk:Access to nonpublic personal data policy

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How do you provide contact and identification information now? I remember used to you could send a copy of an ID. Thanks. Bobherry (talk) 13:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC) {{helpme}}

No, that is not needed now. For example as an OTRS member (now former) at the moment when I became one I just needed to email my name and whether I am a major, and when the new policy was put in place I had to sign phab:L4 and phab:L32 and that's it, the action on Phab was all I needed. I believe nothing has changed since (at least not as of May when I still had OTRS access). --Base (talk) 10:50, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
@Base: Thanks. I signed phab:L4 the other day and I am just waiting for it to go through. I am working to get on the request an account team. Thanks again. Bobherry (talk) 13:33, 25 October 2017 (UTC)


The big blue box at the start of the page says "Provide contact and identification information", and links to a section titled "Identification", but that section does not exist. Does an identification requirement currently exist for holding advanced permissions? If so, it isn't enforced. Can this wording be changed or removed? – Ajraddatz (talk) 08:34, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

See Talk:Access to nonpublic information policy/Noticeboard#Identification. From what I understand, you sign your name and then are added to the noticeboard. No additional identification is required. Would be great to hear confirmation. --Eurodyne (talk) 08:53, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
Ah yes. Incidentally enough, I came here after noticing out of date text on enwiki regarding identification. But when I go here, I found that the outdated text remains here as well. Hopefully the WMF can clarify a bit! – Ajraddatz (talk) 09:24, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

The requirement of identification was removed from this policy in April 2014. What is left is that users need to give their email address (can be under a pseudonym), "certify" that they're of age (accepted as AGF) and provide a signature that can be also made with a pseudonym. The blue box has not been updated regarding the "identifcation information" and twice refers to it, which is very misleading in my opinion. Could it please be updated to better represent the actual policy? -kyykaarme (talk) 10:32, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Reference to the authentic text of this document[edit]

Hi. I miss, like it happens with other Foundation policies, a mention about the "authentic language" of this document. In this case the authentic text of this document is the one written in English, and differences between the English text and its translations should be solved in favor of the English version. As such a note like in the wmf:Terms of Use (In the event of any differences in meaning between the original English version and a translation, the original English version takes precedence.) could be added, just in case. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 18:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Sets of nonpublic personal data[edit]

This policy targets nonpublic personal data from OTRS, CheckUser, email response teams like ArbComs, and possibly other sets. This is written as a broad policy.

Some weirdness has crept into the wiki community without documentation. At some point in the past WMF staffers permitted the registration of Wikimedia user groups to be a nonpublic personal data issue. I am not sure why this happened or if the staffers were even conscious of what they were doing. AffCom was a part of this but seemingly acting at the behest of staff.

Over at Wikimedia Foundation bylaws/December 2018 - Affiliate-selected trustees, term limits, and diversity there is the proposal that user groups should get some powerful voting rights. That could be okay, but if that were so, I wish that the registration and governance of user groups would shift from being nonpublic personal data to being on-wiki in the usual way. The implication is the new power to user groups would give voting rights to individuals who would vote behind this nonpublic personal data policy, instead of making themselves known as Wikimedia account users. In all previous Wikimedia elections most votes come from people with Wikimedia accounts, sometimes from IP users, and never from people who were neither account holders or IP editors. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:01, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

(iv) authorized parties, with the express permission of the user whose nonpublic information is to be disclosed[edit]

I am a little confused about 1/ what is meant by "authorized parties" in this context and 2/ why it is thought necessary to inform the Foundation in advance --or inform the Foundation at all--when the person whose data is being disclosed consents that it be released —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DGG (talk)

How do I sign?[edit]

I have tried loading this page in both of my browsers: Opera 12 and Opera 55 as well as via mobile but I can't see where to sign. The 'submit' button is just text. Am I missing something? Xania (talk) 04:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

How long does it take to process?[edit]

Hello! I'm interested in becoming involved with Account Creation over and en-wp and signed the agreement a couple months ago. I was wondering how long it takes for things to be processed, as I don't actually see my username on the noticeboard yet. Cheers, Cymru.lass (talk) 17:26, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Cymru.lass. I don't have access to the signatures so I cannot check (currently it looks like Samuel (WMF) is the one taking care of this). Please nonetheless make sure you've signed the updated Confidentiality Agreement (a.k.a. L37) because this policy was updated in November and they ain't adding people to this board who hasn't signed the updated NDA. Hope that it helps. Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:09, 24 January 2019 (UTC)