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Movement Learning and Leadership Development Project[edit]


The Wikimedia Foundation’s Community Development team is seeking to learn more about the way volunteers learn and develop into the many different roles that exist in the movement. Our goal is to build a movement informed framework that provides shared clarity and outlines accessible pathways on how to grow and develop skills within the movement. To this end, we are looking to speak with you, our community to learn about your journey as a Wikimedia volunteer. Whether you joined yesterday or have been here from the very start, we want to hear about the many ways volunteers join and contribute to our movement.

To learn more about the project, please visit the Meta page. If you are interested in participating in the project, please complete this simple Google form. Although we may not be able to speak to everyone who expresses interest, we encourage you to complete this short form if you are interested in participating!

-- LMiranda (WMF) (talk) 19:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Ich sollte das eigentlich auf Deutsch schreiben, mit der gleichen Arroganz, mit der hier in dem deutschen Teil dieser englische Text hingerotzt wurde, aber ich bin mal ein wenig freundlicher:
This is a wiki, and the usual way of communication is on-wiki here. @LMiranda (WMF) and Trizek (WMF):: There are a lot of unanswered posts regarding this mass-mail on the different venues you mass-posted it, like here on deWP, or on your talk page, or on the talk page of that meta page, but no reaction so far.
Why did you use the unsuitable Google, a company, that is anything but trustworthy, instead of something within the Wikiverse? Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 10:49, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
Also very easy to use, and used with success in Wikimedia, are and (hosted) LimeSurvey. More information at FLOSS-Exchange. Nemo 08:24, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Diskussion des Strategiedokuments für Wikimedia 2030[edit]


Nach einem mehrjährigen Prozess ist jetzt das Strategiedokument für Wikimedia 2030 veröffentlicht worden, das 13 Empfehlungen enthält. Bis zum 20. Februar werden Rückmeldungen und Gedanken zu den einzeln formulierten, aber miteinander im Zusammenhang stehenden Empfehlungen erbeten, bevor sie letztmalig überarbeitet werden. Sie sind in erweiterter Form auch auf Deutsch hier zu finden, auch ein Begleitschreiben, die Überlegungen der Schreibenden, ein Überblick über den Prozess und Antworten auf häufig gestellte Fragen wurden veröffentlicht. Die erweiterte englische Version bietet zusätzlich noch Erklärungen und Einzelnachweise.
Bitte beteiligt euch mit euren Rückmeldungen bis zum 20. Februar auf den zugehörigen Diskussionsseiten. Viele Grüße --CJackel (WMF) (talk) 08:50, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

@CJackel (WMF): Please translate this message. Znotch190711 (talk) 08:50, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
My apologies, Znotch190711, I thought this was the Forum for german mesages. I am the strategy liaison for german-speaking users and this posting was to rise awareness about the ongoing strategy recommendations discussion phase. This phase lasts until Feb 20. Feedback and thoughts about the recommendations can be posted on the talk pages, will be summarized and influence the final strategy document. Everybody is invited to share their views! Best regards, --CJackel (WMF) (talk) 08:59, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
Read it. Znotch190711 (talk) 09:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Improving tools for handling vandalism[edit]

An update: Back in August, we posted about privacy enhancement and abuse mitigation. In short: The rules about the use of personally identifiable information on the internet are coming under more and more scrutiny, and we have to figure out how to respond to the incoming changes. Publishing people's IP address on the internet is not going to be a viable solution forever, but how do we make sure we don't add to the burden of patrollers and those who keep the wikis free from vandalism, spam and harassment? IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Improving tools has three proposed ideas that would benefit from your feedback at the talk page. What are some costs, benefits and risks we might be overlooking? How can we improve upon these ideas? What sounds exciting, what sounds sub-optimal? /Johan (WMF) (talk) 04:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Stack Exchange and active editors[edit]

It looks like Stack Exchange no longer feels on a trajectory to overtake the Wikimedia community as they used to around 2014 (which was also the peak of SO). Now they sound a bit like Wikimedia Foundation in 2010:

  • Though our active user base continues to grow, our engagement has remained the same. What this means is that while more users are coming to the site every month, the number of users who engage meaningfully in the site does not increase proportionally.
  • To change this dynamic, we will balance investing in improving our tools and features that benefit our long-term users with initiatives that convert new users into engaged ones.

Nemo 07:37, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Nutzung von nicht vertrauenswürdigen Anbietern[edit]

Ich habe es in letzter Zeit ab und an gesehen, dass hier irgendwelche Sachen auf völlig indiskutablen Plattformen wie Google oder Facebook erledigt werden sollen. Solche Aktivitäten schließen all jene aus, die einen Hauch von Privatsphäre wünschen und sich nicht durch diese Datenkraken ausspähen lassen wollen. Warum ist es erlaubt, irgendwas auf solchen nicht vertrauenswürdigen Plattformen zu machen? Gibt es da nicht irgendwelche Abmachungen, dass die WMF solche Dinge schlicht nicht verwenden darf? Ich erwarte das einfach, dass alles hier im Wikiversum (oder im RL) stattfindet, und nichts, in Worten nichts, bei Google etc. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 10:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Fonts of japanese kanji, which are not acurately depicted on @cs.wikt, but fine on @en.wikt[edit]

For example, it is hanzi 与 in chinese (mandarin) versus kanji Rodyklė.gif in japanese. Can someone help with this problem? (causes desinformation for readers) Thank you in advance. --Kusurija (talk) 18:41, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Interesting, both are actually spelled the same "Yo(u)" did cs.wikt somehow mistake Chinese as Japanese?--AldnonymousBicara? 18:54, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Kusurija Where did you find this? Probably translation mistake on Need link to see where this happens.--AldnonymousBicara? 18:57, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
与 (cs) vs 与 (en). Such pairs there are very much, not only this. --Kusurija (talk) 19:10, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Ah I see just a content mistake, I think normal editors can fix it themselves, or you can fix it yourself, I thought this was mistake that came from 19:15, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Just move your cs.wikt page of 与 to 与 I guess the problem can be solved. Suggest adding this template too {{ja-forms|与|与|[[與]]}} (get the template from en.wikt)--Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
(with editconflict; neglecting answer) I think, that it is problem on [software] cs.wiktionary. Aktually, there are more problems with editing policy on cs.wikt, e. g. pictures are often strongly disallowed by some users, so some entities leaves unclear, due to lack of a picture. --Kusurija (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay I'm gonna look into the translation on tomorrow and try to find the mistake there.--AldnonymousBicara? 19:26, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
(with editconflict; neglecting answer) As I'm not a sysop there, could you help with transfer/copy of en template {{ja-forms|与|与|[[與]]}} to czech wiktionary? --Kusurija (talk) 19:27, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Not from, I think this had to be done with direct edit, also template from en.wikt are unusable there.--AldnonymousBicara? 19:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
I think that the difference in formatting is caused by a CSS class Hani added to the heading on enwikt (as can be seen from the source code of the pages 与 (cs) and 与 (en)). The class is defined at en:wikt:MediaWiki:Common.css and somehow added to the heading using the span tag, although I am not quite sure how (if someone knows, I would be interested in learning more about that). Sintakso (talk) 21:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Long story short, on en.wikt it's included the following code: {{DISPLAYTITLE:<span class="Hani">{{PAGENAME}}</span>}}, but it's done via wikt:T:Han charwikt:Module:zh-hanwikt:Module:headword, which is probably way more than what you're looking for. Anyway, browsers assume the character 与 to be Chinese unless otherwise specified. Throughout the page you need a template to output <span lang="ja">与</span> and get --Sakretsu (炸裂) 23:14, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
Sintakso^.--AldnonymousBicara? 08:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Additional interface for edit conflicts on talk pages[edit]

Sorry, for writing this text in English. If you could help to translate it, it would be appreciated.

You might know the new interface for edit conflicts (currently a beta feature). Now, Wikimedia Germany is designing an additional interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This interface is shown to you when you write on a discussion page and another person writes a discussion post in the same line and saves it before you do. With this additional editing conflict interface you can adjust the order of the comments and edit your comment. We are inviting everyone to have a look at the planned feature. Let us know what you think on our central feedback page! -- For the Technical Wishes Team: Max Klemm (WMDE) 14:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)