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To do task[edit]

Align the codes on the admin/crat/cu/... and sisters user templates to have a base, and a build


user meta tool to identify User:CommonsDelinker pages and remove[edit]

Time to get rid of the legacy garbage user pages, and allow meta user page to shine through.

Strategy pages and protecting by other means[edit]

Hi. Good idea! "(WMF)"-like and sysops sounds fine. In my opinion, we should restrict edits by users not recognized as trusted, and that's all. On Meta, there isn't any trusted group broader than sysops, is there? Ideally, some day, a filter like "sysops on any wiki + affiliate capacity" should be added.

BTW, how is it possible to set filter "WMF+sysops"? On Special:ProtectedPages, I can only see full, semi, translators and centralnotice, and centralnotice. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 10:24, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

@SGrabarczuk (WMF): Abusefilter, not page protection, restrict editing based on regex of user_name or member of a group. We can utilise the autopatrolled flag if that is preferred, it is allocated by a sysop here. We already have that as a combination in Special:AbuseFilter/161 to restrict the editing of user: ns pages. It is about identifying exactly the specific pages, or the basepagename if we have parent and children subpages.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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On v:zh:MediaWiki:Colloquium/en[edit]

An interesting fact: Chinese Wikiversity community had chosen "互助客栈" as a translation for Colloquium. However, in Chinese Wikipedia, "互助客栈" is a flexible translation for Village Pump... --Mend My Way 15:45, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

It was an example only for Cohaf. Do what ever you need.  — billinghurst sDrewth 15:54, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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HELP ![edit]


Decline reason: There is not a block on the IP range at metawiki. I will hazard a guess that you are editing at another wiki, so you will need to query their block and request an unblock at that wiki. Looks to be wikivoyage try an unblock request at voy:User talk: — billinghurst sDrewth 11:02, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

It does not work, and there was no notice board,

just this;

and this;

posting was vandalism and i was reverted and blocked, to stop me from reposting.

there is a template;

and in trying to use the template got the talk page blocked

this only affecties the english wikivoyage.

and posting to this gets it reverted. 17:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

The best that you will be able to do is to talk to the blocking admins at their talk page here at Meta ... User talk:AndreCarrotflower. Start by seeking to understand their concerns about your post, and about what was problematic. Or you might ask for them to find another admin who could independently review the decision, and make recommendations.

Meta admins have no ability to intervene in the operations with other wikis, each wiki is an independent pace of operation.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:08, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

you said the block is not on this wiki so why can't the template be removed it says


there is no block. ? 23:45, 7 January 2019 (UTC) 00:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

There is a string of active conversations occurring, and it is contextual for each conversation and to look at the overall picture without having to dive into page histories. There is no issue leaving such discussions in place, it doesn't make the place messier, or more confusing. Maybe in a couple of weeks it can be tidied, once it is less required.  — billinghurst sDrewth 00:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Note, you have to address your issues locally, that is to ask for local administrator assistance, and if none of them after reviewing your case independently decided to unblock, just serve out the 3 months. Period. Thanks and here at meta we cannot do anything about it.--Cohaf (talk) 00:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)



FYI 00:21, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Excellent, now I fully understand the situation already, you are just a troll and please stop this nonsense. Wait out the 3 months local block, and since it's account creation blocked, if you create any accounts or IP and edit, you are off to another long enforced wikibreak. Cease and desist immediately from this IP or else this will be blocked globally as block evasion. Regards.--Cohaf (talk) 00:41, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Abuse filter 195[edit]

Let me first express my support for the comments made by Juetho above. On nl.wiktionary the filter is blocking spam accounts on a daily basis. Up to now I have had no complaints by genuine editors. Some accounts that trigger the filter somehow end up being created after all. As of now, none of these turned out to be genuine contributors, but some of them almost immediately attempted to spam. I would clearly like this filter to remain. It would be helpful is the log somehow could indicate whether the filter did or dit not result in a new account being created. --MarcoSwart (talk) 14:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@MarcoSwart: The abuse filter is only set to challenge creation, not to disallow creation, which has shown a level of effectiveness, without being absolute, so those who wish to push through can do so. We maybe need to think about the message that we issue to users through the block, and whether we can better address the language of the message, which has been unexplored by me as it was meant to be a temporary measure. I would prefer that the debate and decision about an abuse filter not be had here, and maybe we should move it to Stewards' noticeboard where I announced the filter during the problem times. Unfortunately abuselogs don't show success after challenge, and you still need to rely on "RecentChanges" or directly looking at Special:Log for creations, and to note that some of the spambot creations that fall outside of the loose filter will also show there.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:53, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
@MarcoSwart: Not as successful as presumed. See my addition to SN  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you![edit]

SpecialBarnstar.png The Special Barnstar
Thanks for your help over the holiday with the spambot problem. CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 17:17, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
@CKoerner (WMF): Thanks, good bit of team effort and thanks to those developers who came to my aid, most especially BAW who starred! Note the above comment about Special:AbuseFilter/195 which is related, and while being reasonably effective against other standard spambots, does have a low positive false hit rate. If we are going to keep 195, we need to look at ramifications, applying mitigation where possible, and maybe a level of communication through a newsletter.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Further noting that I am not a steward, so while I am given unfettered access to extended bits, it should not be without review or consideration, as my granted permissions are not a full-blown election.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:00, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Cross-wiki spam by Areokye[edit]

Hi, I saw you moved the report to SRG. FYI there is already an open request, see Steward requests/Global#Global lock for Areokye. -★- PlyrStar93 Message me. 01:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Then feel happy to merge it. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

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