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Making the Reply tool available for all

The [reply] tool is now available (default-on) for all users at all WMF-hosted wikis except Meta-Wiki, Wikispecies, and the Russian and English Wikipedias. It's a popular tool and has been used to post more than 500,000 comments on the wikis so far, 100% of which were signed and ::::indented. You can see people using it in RecentChanges.

If you want to try it out, then click https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel?dtenable=1 to reload this page, and look for the [reply] buttons after each signature. If you want to use it on all pages, then go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures and turn on "Discussion tools". The link and the Beta Feature include several other tools, such as [subscribe] and a simplified tool for creating a ==New section==. I think that automatic topic subscriptions would be particularly good for Meta-Wiki (so people will get notified about replies even if they aren't pinged and without needing to remember to check their watchlists on Meta-Wiki), but only the [reply] tool itself is ready to be deployed now.

I'd like to ask the Editing team to deploy the [reply] tool the next time they're making a config change (could be next week, could be when it's deployed to enwiki in January). Before I do that, I wanted to let you know and make sure that I hadn't missed any significant problems. Please let me know if you have any concerns. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I've been using the beta (opt-in) feature for quite some time here, and I find it helpful; so no concerns from me. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:20, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't care for it, but as long as it is opt-in, no big deal - so sure. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:40, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I think we should turn this on as an opt-out – on by default for everyone, and you can turn it off if you don't want it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

This has finally happened. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I've deactivated the Beta Feature from Preferences. It looks it's working as before (using it right now to reply). Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion has the prefs. With the Beta Feature off, I don't know if you will see the full list (e.g., for topic subscriptions). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): This is what I currently see at my Preferences with the Beta Feature off: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F34909653.

Also, now that we're at it, I'm not sure why but the reply link ain't working at wikt:lmo:Wikizzionari:Bar for some reason.

Best regards, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 21:11, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Reported the lmo.wiktionary issue to phab:T298830. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

It looks like that's been fixed. mw:Help:DiscussionTools/Why can't I reply to this comment? has a list of the most common problems. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Enable WikiLove at Meta-Wiki

Hi, I am here to propose enabling WikiLove at Meta-Wiki. The reason is probably similar to other sites - give Meta-Wiki users a relatively friendly set of templates to improve the friendliness between users. The configuration could be similar to that on enwiki. Stang 23:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

No additional comments apart from the fact that this was already discussed at length and rejected before (cf. previous proposal, not sure about others). Best, Sgd. —Hasley 00:22, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Apologize for not making a search before post a new proposal here. Just wondering, why it is thought as "a toy" or "a game", is it just because Meta-Wiki is not a content-based site? Stang 01:39, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I would prefer that it went through an RfC than a request here, due to the previous conversation.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd prefer not to enable it. My views have not changed since 2012. We now have a thanks feature, in addition to the old personalised talk page message of appreciation. Thanks. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:18, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

No thanks, but agree that if this is wanted do a regular RfC. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Really isnt needed. You can use those templates without it being part of the interface. Vermont (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Isn't is mostly useless templates that are in the WikiLove extension? I think it's only a enwiki thing, so no thanks. Stryn (talk) 08:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

WikiLove is available to all editors at about 50 public wikis, plus a few private and test wikis (specifically: arwiki, azwiki, bnwiki, bnwikisource, ckbwiki, commonswiki, testcommonswiki, enwiki, enwikivoyage, eswiki, eswikivoyage, fawiki, fawiktionary, hewiki, hewikiquote, hewikisource, hewiktionary, hiwiki, huwiki, hywiki, incubatorwiki, iswiki, itwikiquote, itwikivoyage, jawiki, kowiki, mediawikiwiki, mkwiki, mlwiki, newiki, nlwiki, nowiki, officewiki, outreachwiki, orwiki, pawiki, ptwiki, sawiki, sewikimedia, siwiki, slwiki, sqwiki, sqwikiquote, srwiki, svwiki, svwikinews, tawiki, testwiki, trwiki, ukwiki, urwiki, viwiki, wikitech, zhwiki, zhwikivoyage, zh_yuewiki). It began originally as a user script or gadget at the English Wikipedia, but it was converted to an extension and is now available to any wiki that requests it. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Let's help Rehman

Hi all; let's support our colleague Rehman, he is a great Commoner and Wikipedian, and currently is in a critical economic situation. Here you can support; any donation and sharing this campaign is highly appreciated. Regards --A.Savin (talk) 02:10, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

What can I do to contribute?

The subject is self explanatory. MobiusGehrig (talk) 02:11, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

On Meta-Wiki? There's a lot of helpful links for places you can contribute to on the Main Page, as well as currently ongoing discussions at Requests for comment. Vermont (talk) 01:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

i want to use this site i want to learn just like you but i have a problem pls help me

hello community i need help but im not going to lie only the truth. im new .. i signed in i have an account But this account is not just mine. you see i have been hacked for over one year i dont know thir ip addresses i know who is doing this. im sharing my carrier my internet my server my mail my messages my everything with these 2 ppl that just will not let me be and now im sharing this site with them since my ip is theirs also. i hope someone can help me and finally get them out of this iphone 12 pro max forever. i am on phone # 4 i tried androids and now apple and windows but they keep following me .. i gave it a name .. mobile stalking.. their apps are very good most are global. german.. i need someone to help me if possible with cyber forensics .. and throw them under the bus CB021870 i am sure they know my username and password but i cannot do anything about it without someone from this site to help me :( ty —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CB021870 (talk)

Meta:Bots

Hello all. I propose to make Meta:Bots into an official policy. This is a long-standing page and had little change since 2016. An inactivity policy was introduced and subsequently made into an official policy in 2019 so makes no sense to leave this out. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 11:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I support oficialising Meta:Bots and merging Meta:Bot inactivity policy into it so everything is consolidated in one place. However, I'd also take this oportunity to clarify when the inactivity checks for bots should be carried out. The policy mentions that they'll be "periodically reviewed" which is a bit vague. I think it'd be good to mention when that review can happen (e.g. on April 1st each year, so we can handle those with the admin inactivity checks). Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:53, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

@Minorax There is a previous discussion started by me here Meta:Babel/Archives/2020-11#Meta:Bots. I think there is a rough consensus there to make it a policy and merge the 2. @MarcoAurelio Can I do the merge now. Sorry I let the last discussion lapse. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

@Camouflaged Mirage: I feel I am bit involved, so I'll let other bureaucrats (@MF-Warburg & @Xaosflux) to decide. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

• This all seems fine, to make sure we are all on the same page - nothing is changing so far as actual community or operator expectations are involved, correct. Agree that in wrapping this up Meta:Bot inactivity policy should be merged in to Meta:Bots; the M-W bot policy still mostly pulls from the global Bot policy - but have to objections to tagging Meta:Bots as a policy page for the additional local policy rules that we have. — xaosflux ^Talk 11:49, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, i.e. Merging the inactivity page (i.e. copy-paste) to the main policy page, and redirecting the former to the latter. The main page will then be tagged as policy. No changes to the text whatsoever. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Folklore is back!

Please help translate to your language

You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2022 an international photography contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.

Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.

Kind regards,

Wiki loves Folklore International Team

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:15, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2022

The Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is now open!

This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 23 January, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 28 January and 11 February.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 18:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Translation

Hello, if anyone could help start a translation (I am not translation administrator) for that page Community health initiative/User Mute features , it would be appreciable ! Bouzinac (talk) 21:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Bouzinac, requests to mark pages for translation are made at Meta talk:Babylon. !Thanks Hulged (talk) 11:44, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

The issue is that this page isn't set up for translation, hence, it cannot be marked up for translation now. Read Translation_requests#How_to_request_a_translation for further assistance. Thanks much. @Bouzinac Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I've prepared the page for translation. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:40, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you but is it normal the "translation tool" hasn't appeared ? Bouzinac (talk) 19:31, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

@Bouzinac, please click here to translate the linked page. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 16:03, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

New RFC for meta admin inactivity policy

Hello, just a notice that I started an RFC to ammend the inactivity policy for meta admins. Meta:Requests for comment/Change to Meta Admin Inactivity Policies. Opinions are most welcomed. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:39, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk to the Community Tech

Hello

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 19 January (Wednesday), 18:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. This external system is not subject to the WMF Privacy Policy. Click here to join.

Agenda

• Bring drafts of your proposals and talk to to a member of the Community Tech Team about your questions on how to improve the proposal

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, and German. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

• Join online
• Meeting ID: 85804347114
• Dial by your location

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

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Community Portal of Meta

Hello, when I tried to access Community Portal of Meta from Mobile site (aka meta.m.wikimedia.org), from the hamburger menu on the left, I get directed to Goings-on, instead of this oage which would appears to be a more typical place for meta-related community discussion to take place. I think such link is inconsistent with other wiki and make it harder for user to reach this place for meta-related discussion. I think this should be changed to link to this Meta:Babel page instead, anyone know how to achieve this? C933103 (talk) 12:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Meta Wiki Mobile Skin

Hello, when I visit Mobile version of Meta Wiki, the skin look like https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854343545632718848/933707266681614336/Screenshot_20220120-205808.png with 40% space on the left hand side of the page being blank. Is this intentional design choice and can the blank space be removed? C933103 (talk) 13:02, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@C933103: I cannot reproduce this. I think the problem is coming from your global.css code? Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:49, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Resolved. @C933103 and Quiddity (WMF): Yes, the output is also due to the him custom CSS rule:

.mw-body {
	margin-left: 10em;
}

✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (talk) 21:21, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I see, so this is caused by the dark mode styling there. Is there ways to limit such styling to only desktop version skin, or alternative approaches to have a better implementation of dark mode? C933103 (talk) 02:15, 21 January 2022 (UTC)