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New template for diff links (cross-project)[edit]
Providing diff links to substantiate certain claims (or simply to point to some specific change) is common practice in the WMF projects. Typically, these are diffs from the same project. However, on projects like Meta, where other projects are coordinated, or in Commons or Wikidata, that serve many other projects, it may be necessary to also provide diffs from another project. The standard {{diff}} template, while otherwise a venerable tool, doesn't provide such functionality.
Enter {{xdiff}}. Besides using very slightly simplified syntax (which I personally find more convenient), it supports cross-project (that is, from a different project, not between projects, of course) diff links.
Here's an example from enwiki: {{xdiff|188929697|188927826|Don't delete the main page|w:en}} => Don't delete the main page
And another from Commons (which also uses the default “diff” label): {{xdiff|343980000|343611222||c}} => diff
Check the documentation in {{xdiff}} for instructions on its usage and for more examples.
Cheers,
— Luchesar • T/C 12:05, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- {{xoldid}} also added, common code moved to {{interwiki2url}}.
— Luchesar • T/C 11:27, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Current state of "General requests"[edit]
Currently, the "General requests" looks all but abandoned or overlooked. The page is getting huger and longer to browse, so archiving may be needed. Threads within the past year have receiver very little to no reply. If it can't be marked as "inactive", what else can be done about the venue? George Ho (talk) 06:55, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- George Ho: The banner was changed a few days ago, stating that the page is rarely watched and recommends SRM to add requests. As "General" includes "Miscellaneous", we could make the page deprecated and tell users where to go. That way new requests (that aren't so many) can be seen by more users. Esteban16 (talk) 23:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Vertically-oriented column headers for tables[edit]
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Sometimes, like here, tables can get quite wide only because of the column headers. In such cases, rotating the headers to a vertical position may help to keep the tables compact and even easier to read. There are templates that allow this, and I've ported (well, mostly just copy-pasted) {{Vertical header}} from enwiki (may also be used as {{vert header}} and {{verth}}), along with a few more templates, on which it or its documentation depended, for example {{Quick table}}. Enjoy!
— Luchesar • T/C 11:12, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
- I wish I could thank you enough for this _innovation_, as writing in Japanese, the overflow of the column title is very disturbing as the double-byte fonts are thicker on visual impact. Thank you and I can't wait applying them in translated pages I will work in the future. Domo arigato ! --Omotecho (talk) 05:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Omotecho, thank you so much for the kind words; I do hope it will indeed solve those problems. At the same time, I should probably also emphasise again that my contribution has been absolutely miniscule: basically just copy-pasting the module, templates and docs code from the English Wikipedia with just a few really minor touches here and there. Whoever has written those things from scratch (haven't checked, tbh) deserves the real praise. :)
Requested pages?[edit]
Is there a list of pages that Meta probably should have, but doesn't? If not, should there be such a list? There are a lot of significant Wikimedia topics that don't seem to have any documentation. --Yair rand (talk) 03:39, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'd say that Special:WantedPages provides some indication. --bdijkstra (talk) 11:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Does it? I went through the first 200 results and didn't see anything worth creating a page about. Killiondude (talk) 17:27, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- To be honest, meta doesn't really need any new pages. It's a central coordinating wiki that's half people asking stewards for stuff with the rest about an even mix of WMF stuff and local affiliate stuff. None of the steward stuff needs expanded, and the WMF/affiliates are perfectly capable of creating their own pages. I don't really think essays and broad discussions about the Wikimedia movement serve much purpose here: most Wikimedians, including extremely active ones, don't visit meta. These pages are better on local projects that they impact rather than on a place most people won't read. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
