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Thank you so much[edit]

Thanks for thanks for the welcome... --Josuecedeno (talk) 00:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Really. I am amazed at the kindness of this bot. NoTrack (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2015 (UTC)


In w:el:Ελληνικό_αλφάβητο el:user:Kalogeropoulos blocked article on vandalized version and insists on keeping it in such vandalized state. Please revert him to last version by - this is needed because I exhausted all local procedures. Administrators does not have right to work on behalf of vandals. This is against Wikipedia. 19:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the changes here, it seems that what he did was restore condensed references and some other things. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
But he screwed table. So rather revert to this should be done instead. Can thou do this? Table still is screwed and no one cares. Note that today version from 18:18 is last good one with condensed references. 21:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Someone fixed this table, but this vandal responsible for this is still not banned. 17:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
They wont be banned, and please do not call honest mistakes vandalism. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
But he reapplied this twice in identical manner as linked directly above, so it is vandalism. 13:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Or, it could be said that you were vandalising by reverting without discussion. If you start calling anything vandalism it could easily apply back to you. Ottava Rima (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
But these two IP reverts reinstated undamaged table, so they could not be vandalistic. 19:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Template problem[edit]

I changed this main page [[1]]recently but the templates are not working properly, such as images and background color. Can someone fix it for me ? Thanks --စေတနာ 14:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Page navigation for visually impaired[edit]

Today, many articles have spoken versions. Now there is still the question to make those articles easily attainable for the visually impaired. About this I had an idea, illustrated in the test page: Essential in this page are eight images, representing the eight main chapters of that Wikipedia. Further below, nine sound files have been added. In order to become usable, the following functions should be added to that page.

  • When moving the mouse cursor over an image, the according sound file should be spoken in order to learn the user on which image he is.
  • On clicking an image, the according page (or in this case a sub content page) should be opened.
  • Perhaps: when opening this page, its title enzy.ogg should be spoken, in order to assure the user that he has reached the right page.

Now, the first two functions are already possible in Flash (see e.g., I only don’t know, how to implement them in Wikipedia.


  • Is this the right place to discuss such a subject?
  • Have similar attempts already made before or are they even already applied anywhere?

I am very interested in an answer. --Pyt 07:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Chechen vikipidiya[edit]

Thank you for the Chechen wikipedia just terrible things are happening click here I want to be an administrator to remove all. -- Дагиров Умар 16:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Greetings from Orschstaffer[edit]

It is finally time to introduce Meta-Babel into a class assignment for User:Orschstaffer/Schoolhouse and User:Orschstaffer/classroom. The schoolhouse and classroom as yet have not implimented language as a relative course/curriculum, however, User:Orschstaffer page now has a Greetings: Lead with the perfect opportunity to advance Meta-Babel. I am Seraphim... includes Russian iconography, geography, painters, artists, Russian Orthodoxy, Images with Russian Language, and I intend to follow my one room schoolhouse theme by following the language to Russia and one room schoolhouses in Russia, amoung other global places. This is all new to me, so give me something I may teach to others who also don't know what to ask. Please be patient with me as this is a School Project and a Classroom Assignment. Kindly submitted, requested, Orschstaffer (talk) 02:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

[HowTo] create an account on an other wiki, when having a unified account (in french)[edit]

In this (french-speaking) discussion page about the unified login, I present (in french) my case of not being able to create an account on a supplementary wiki, while I still have a unified account. I end with a kind of infinite click loop and no solution. I have not been able to find clues or even indications, neither in the french nor the english help page. Thanks for help --Eric.LEWIN (talk) 22:48, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

If this is still a problem, could you please elaborate on your steps and which exact errors you get? Not sure what "infinite click loop" means exactly in this case. Thanks! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 09:16, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Logo text on Māori wikipedia (mi)[edit]

Just wondering if anyone can help to get the logo text changed on on the Māori Wikipedia? A request was made to change the text to Te Mātāpunenga Wātea here Wikipedia_logo_in_each_language#M under M back in 2010, but it was never actioned. That followed a vote here. The present text is not the best translation of 'the free Encyclopedia' I have also asked on Commons, but that has had no response after a few days Piwaiwaka (talk) 06:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Update: This has now been actioned from Commons. All sorted :) Piwaiwaka (talk) 08:37, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Reduce archive rate from 60 days to 30 days[edit]

Currently threads inactive for more than 60 days are being archived. I propose that we reduce such limit to 30 days. A thread inactive for more than one month is likely a resolved issue. 30 days is a reasonable time span and will help keep this page more up to date and clean. Thanks. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I support this for this page, 30 days should be sufficient.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:09, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Done. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 22:34, 24 May 2013 (UTC)


Hello, in other wikis Babel is language knowledges, would not it have to be this page on the Babel of languages​​?
Or Babel knowledge is User language? If I seem a little strange to write, forgive me because I speak Spanish. Since I do not visit nearly anything Meta, it is better to respond to: w:es:User talk:Iggoul2. 16:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC).

(Ask OR Anwser) in Spanish. 16:47, 4 June 2013 (UTC).
As far as I know, this page was named long before the "Babel" template was created. At the top of the page, there is an English message directing users to "the Babel templates"; perhaps that message should be added (/translated) to all the other languages represented in Meta:Babel/Header. (Replied en español [más o menos] at es:Usuario Discusión:Iggoul2#m:Meta:Babel.) - dcljr (talk) 01:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Multilingual instructions[edit]

In light of the previous exchange, I think it would be a good idea to do a complete overhaul of Meta:Babel/Header Template:Babel header. There you will find the following notices in English:

  1. For the cross-wiki translator's noticeboard, you can see Meta:Babylon
  2. For the Babel language-competence templates, see the Babel templates
  3. This is Meta's multilingual general and policy discussion page (post a comment)
  4. for discussions about multilingualism or translation, see the translators' noticeboard
  5. for discussions about all of Wikimedia, see Wikimedia Forum
  6. You can comment here in any language
  7. If your comment relates to a matter relevant to a particular page, please post it there and only place a link with a brief description here

Notices 1–6 are "hardcoded" in English only, while #7 is the English instance of a collection of "language select" messages (using {{ls}}). Unfortunately, it seems that most of the notices in the other languages are only translations of #7 and none of the others. I think we should include translations of all of the above notices (merging and simplifying some of them, as needed, in the process) in all of the provided languages. Unfortunately, I can't help with any language other than English, unless I just use Google Translate (which I suspect is where most of the current translations came from, anyway).

Here's my suggestion for the English message:

This is the general discussion forum for Meta (this wiki). Comments placed here (in any language) should generally relate to site policies or other matters that affect more than one page of the wiki (otherwise, just post your comment on the relevant talk page and, if necessary, provide a link and short description here). For discussions about multilingualism or translation, see Meta:Babylon. For information about how to indicate your language abilities on your user page ("Babel templates"), see User language. To discuss Wikimedia in general, please use the Wikimedia Forum. Before you post here, please also consider whether your question or comment would be better addressed at one of the major Wikimedia "content projects" instead of here. If you still want to post something here, you can use this link: Post a new comment.

I think that pretty much covers everything. Comments? Other suggestions? - dcljr (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

A good idea, though let's keep the "You can comment here in any language" sentence. For translation, currently only the part after English: is translatable, let's simply make it the whole header. --MF-W 21:31, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I wouldn't recommend using the whole header as it now stands, since the wording is not really the best (that's what I was trying to do: keep all the same information, but improve the wording). I think either I've just misunderstood your comment or you've misunderstood mine. I meant that this English text I'm suggesting would be the English: text that would be translated into the other languages. As for "You can comment here in any language", you don't think the "(in any language)" parenthetical remark in the second sentence is sufficient for that? Hmm. OK, how 'bout this?

This is the general discussion forum for Meta (this wiki). Before you post a new comment please note the following:

  • You can comment here in any language.
  • This forum is primarily for discussion of site policies and guidelines, and other matters that affect more than one page of the wiki.
  • If your comment only relates to a single page, please post it on the corresponding discussion page (if necessary, you can provide a link and short description here).
  • For notices and discussions related to multilingualism and translation, see Meta:Babylon and its discussion page.
  • For information about how to indicate your language abilities on your user page ("Babel templates"), see User language.
  • To discuss Wikimedia in general, please use the Wikimedia Forum.
  • Consider whether your question or comment would be better addressed at one of the major Wikimedia "content projects" instead of here.
Better? - dcljr (talk) 02:24, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
FYI that Meta:Babel/Header has been moved to Template:Babel header per this discussion. --Varnent (talk)(COI) 23:06, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
And Steinsplitter has implemented my suggestion of 16 June. (Thanks! I really didn't want to attempt marking up a translatable version of that myself.) - dcljr (talk) 03:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Obscenities, hide them please[edit]

HARD PORN content: please hide. Thank you! 19:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Adding ancient languages[edit]

What do you thing about adding to Babel some ancient languages, for example Futhark runes? Ochilov (talk) 19:55, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Just in case, Meta:Babel is a kind of village pump for local issues on Meta. This talk page here is about Meta:Babel, not about mw:extension:babel. In theory non works as Babel language code, but in practice it displays "English" in the Latin script instead of "Old Norse" runes. I've no idea how to fix this, maybe ask on mw:extension talk:babel. –Be..anyone (talk) 20:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)


Please help me out of disruption from Cbliu, take a look at my talk page and history please. Fairnessfighter (talk) 14:44, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Machine translation is of course not perfect, but here's what I got from Cbilu's comments "It has been banned on the other unhappy". It's not apparent from this what is actually going on here, could you expand on it a bit? Is this some sort fo spillover from an issue on another project? Beeblebrox (talk) 18:27, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
In, I required to be blocked, you could see it from here, not someone else want to block me for some proper reason than puppet policy.

could be translated like

Then I was blocked there, but I have no ideas why Cbliu still left strange words on my talk page here. In his user page he mentioned he come from Taiwan, so I could not understand his Chinese. So I think this is a disruption here. Fairnessfighter (talk) 22:38, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Others may have a differing opinion, but I would say that that single odd but unclear edit to your talk page is probably something that can be safely ignored. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:03, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

typo in template[edit]

Can someone direct me to where {{#babel:cy|cy-5}} is kept please? There's a typo in it. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 11:41, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

On TranslateWiki. --Stryn (talk) 13:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
And you can use translatewiki:Special:SearchTranslations. --Nemo 22:03, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Promoting the accuracy of Wikipedia[edit]

As a student, I have been told by many teachers not to use Wikipedia and as stupid as it sounds, I have been harassed for doing personal research on Wikipedia. We should be discussing ways to promote the accuracy and legitimacy of Wikipedia and related projects. Gdog1102 (talk)

@Gdog1102: Wikipedia needs to cite sources. You should refer to those when you are doing research. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:33, 9 November 2016 (UTC)