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The use of Wikipedia by doctors for their information needs[edit]

This is a proposal for a research project to study the relationship between Wikipedia and the information needs of doctors. The community's knowledge and feedback is more than appreciated!

Wikimania 2014[edit]

I'm coming on the last day (Sunday). I know James will be there. Anyone else going? JFW (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

 :-) Would try to make any MED meet-up MistyMorn (talk) 13:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm going for all the conference. Vinicius Siqueira (talk) 16:35, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I will be there throughout, and am keen to organize some event for medics outside the main programme, with Cancer Research UK, where I am Wikipedian in residence. But I need to be fixing this shortly. Wiki CRUK John (talk) 15:17, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
  • How about something on writing style for medical content? How to communicate best with our readers, etc. MistyMorn (talk) 10:57, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
  • That's certainly playing to CRUK's strengths, although will mainly or only work for English-language editors. Or will it? I suppose the same issues exist in most languages. We could have an afternoon event, running into an early evening social. I'm going to start a sub-page to collect views on what, when, and where. I will post it on the English project talk, and would be very grateful if people could post it to other language equivalents. Of course this is for all medical editors not just members of this thorg or local projects. Link soon. Wiki CRUK John (talk) 11:24, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I will be there for all days. I want to meet medicine people and have a medicine meetup. I guess that should be Sunday, if we are all there for all of the conference except for JFW who is just there on Sunday. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Ok, link to discuss what to do: Wiki Project Med/Wikimania 2014 meetup. As above, I would be very grateful if people could post it to other language equivalents. Of course this is for all medical editors not just members of this thorg or local projects. Wiki CRUK John (talk) 11:52, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia being used as a substitute for medical advice[edit]

I read in the newspaper recently (sorry, I forgot when) that people are using Wikipedia as a substitute for medical advice. Can we have a disclaimer on top of all medicine related articles that goes something like this, "This article is not a substitute for medical advice"?—Khabboos (talk) 16:53, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Khabboos! The medical disclaimer issue is an important issue unrelated to what this group does, which is to avoid bureaucracy and focus on developing health content. You can see the results of a previous discussion on this topic at en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/RFC on medical disclaimer.
The disclaimer you suggest would be posted if there is community consensus to post it. That consensus does not exist and this is a controversial issue with many perspectives. This board is probably not the place to pursue this issue as people here focus on the development of health content. I have no ideas for where you could go to talk about this - perhaps en:WP:PUMP. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Different language projects actually have different takes on this. Although most don't seem to carry disclaimers directly on medical article pages, a few do. Some that do carry more or less prominent individual page warnings containing a link to a medical disclaimer page are:
  • Chinese (zh, roughly translated, "Wikipedia is for reference only and cannot be considered professional advice. For any health problems, consult a health care professional.")
  • Dutch (nl, "Be aware of the medical information disclaimer. Consult with a health physician.")
  • German (de, "Please note the information on health topics!")
  • Italian (it, "The information provided is not medical advice and may not be accurate. The information contained herein is for illustrative purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice: Read the health warning.")
  • Latvian (lv, "Warning: Wikipedia cannot replace a doctor!")
and
  • Esperanto (eo, "Please note the warning regarding articles about medical issues!")
MistyMorn (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for only mentioning English Wikipedia but, yes, as MistyMorn says, this is an international multilingual, multiple project issue. I am not aware of the nature of discussions on this issue outside of English language, but they have happened. I expect that more discussion has happened in English than anywhere else, just because I do not recall anyone describing a precedent for settling this in another language. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:11, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Vector graphics from Cancer Research UK[edit]

Hi, I have been working with Johnbod, over the last month or so, to release 391 vector graphics relating to cancer. I am hoping that a couple of volunteers active in Wikiproject Med might promote these, and ensure they are nicely used and categorized? I have given a basic category but these need a little specialist attention. The ones uploaded today have "CRUK <nnn>" at the end of the file name.

I have uploaded a lot of other images, but it is unusual to get professional vector diagrams released, these are highly useful for print publications and rescale nicely for use in Wikipedia articles.

Thanks -- (talk) 12:26, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Board training[edit]

The Boards training workshop August 2014 in London might interest some of you, although the timing may be difficult. Training for Board members is often very valuable. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

New board member[edit]

I would like to propose User:Keilana as a board member. (for vote by the current board)

Support
Oppose
Obstain
Discussion

Have all of you logged into Meta recently, or are you handling this offwiki? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Thematic organization recognition process[edit]

Hello, Wiki Project Med members and supporters!

Thank you for applying for recognition as a thematic organization! My name is Kirill Lokshin, and I will be your primary Affiliations Committee liaison as you move through the recognition process. Greg Varnum, whom some of you probably know, will be assisting me as the secondary liaison. Please do not hesitate to reach out to either of us at any time if you have any questions, comments, or concerns.

To begin the recognition process, I have a few standard questions for you to answer. I suspect that you already have answers for some or all of these written up somewhere, so please feel free to point me to the correct locations rather than copying material here.

  1. Who are the people behind Wiki Project Med? How many members do you have, how are they geographically distributed, and which Wikimedia projects are they active in? How many people do you expect will eventually want to join? Are any prominent (on a local or international level) Wikimedians involved?
  2. What thematic area and context do you cover or plan to cover? What Wikimedia projects do you actively work or plan to work with?
  3. Please give a short summary of your history from the founding of the group to the present. What projects and activities has the group organized? Do you publish periodic reports of your activities?
  4. What kind of projects activities are you planning for the future? Where do you see Wiki Project Med in a year? In five years?
  5. How can the Affiliations Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation help Wiki Project Med?

I will be reviewing your legal structure and bylaws over the next few days and will post a separate set of observations regarding those. In the meantime, please feel free to contact me if you have any questions, or if there's some way that I can assist you. Kirill Lokshin [talk] 20:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Many Thank User talk:Kirill Lokshin
  1. Who are the people behind Wiki Project Med? How many members do you have, how are they geographically distributed, and which Wikimedia projects are they active in? How many people do you expect will eventually want to join? Are any prominent (on a local or international level) Wikimedians involved?
    1. We have a list of more than 100 people from more than 20 countries interested here [1]
    2. Our board members are from 6 different countries. We are set to add two more board members which will add one more country to the list.
    3. We are mostly involved with Wikipedias and Commons. With respect to prominence of our members, many are, having been involved with Wikipedia/Wikimedia for years.
  2. What thematic area and context do you cover or plan to cover? What Wikimedia projects do you actively work or plan to work with?
    1. Health care. Mostly work on Wikipedias but also on Commons
  3. Please give a short summary of your history from the founding of the group to the present. What projects and activities has the group organized? Do you publish periodic reports of your activities?
    1. The idea was first announced at Wikimania in 2012. The organization was than incorporated in NY state and the by-laws were approved on Nov 2nd, 2013.
    2. The organization has been actively involved with outreach to multiple organizations before and since that time. This includes to the National Institute of Health (in collaboration with Wikimedia DC), outreach to the Italian Cochrane Collaboration (in collaboration with Wikimedia Italy), speaking at medical schools in India and Nepal (in collaboration with Wikimedians of Nepal and Wikimedia India), speaking at the NHS (in collaboration with Wikimedia UK), setting up a Wikipedia in Residence at the World Health Organization, supporting the hiring of a Wikipedia in Residence at Cancer Research UK and at the Cochrane Collaboration, speaking at a medical school in Tehran (in collaboration with the local Wikipedia community their) and others
    3. Our largest project is our translation task force which involves all the previous collaboration plus working closely with Translators Without Borders and Wikipedians in many dozens of languages. Recently to support this effort one of our members has received an IEG to develop greater inter language collaboration
    4. Other projects include developing a copy and paste detection bot for medical content in collaboration with Wikimedia Israel. We are also working on a number of research projects regarding Wikipedia and medicine including look at the quality of medical content
    5. We have not been as good at producing newsletters as we should be. One for the translation task force is here [2] and an older one is here [3]
    6. Our efforts have also generated a fair bit of press [4] and [5] which we do not keep track of as well as we could
  4. What kind of projects activities are you planning for the future? Where do you see Wiki Project Med in a year? In five years?
    1. Plans are to continue working on our current projects and increase collaboration with other Wikimedia chapters and like minded organizations. We are looking at a collaboration with UNESCO and the Khan academy among others. The goal is to have high quality health care content available to all in the language of their choice. This will likely take at least a lifetime but we concentrate on little steps that move us in the right direction.
  5. How can the Affiliations Committee and the Wikimedia Foundation help Wiki Project Med?
    1. Wiki Project Med Foundation and the WMF of course have already been collaborating. The foundation direct those interested in being involved with medicine to us and we inquire with the WMF when we need tech solutions we cannot figure out how to solve on our own. Additionally we have been involved in discussion on how to get Wikipedia disseminated more effectively in the developing world.
    2. The current support of User:CFCF with the IEG is much appreciated. Would love to see a small number of standard templates across all Wikipedias. Getting the cite journal and cite book templates to work is often a pain.
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:04, 1 September 2014 (UTC)