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Revision as of 08:38, 30 July 2013
Mess: Get Escape - I imagine a logo that could resemble a bird while spreading its wings and the letters "W" and "V" (WikiVoyage's initials) at the same time. Moreover, my logo wants to express the escape from the ordinary when someone takes a journey and the possibility to choose different paths before starting a trip., WV Get Escape.svg
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The following conversation is taken from Wikivoyage/Logo 2013/Submissions#Option 8 - Get Escape:
I imagine a logo that could resemble a bird while spreading its wings and the letters "W" and "V" (WikiVoyage's initials) at the same time. Moreover, my logo wants to express the escape from the ordinary when someone takes a journey and the possibility to choose different paths before starting a trip. --Mess (talk) 22:55, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
- I like it! Uses the WMF color, it has the circle that recall the world and other WM logos, furthermore there's a W that recall Wikivoyage. Try to make some other alternatives on these theme, don't stop on the first idea. --Andyrom75 (talk) 23:09, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, did you maybe read on my mind? I just thought about a squared version this night (dropping out the circle), et voila... --Mess (talk) 08:20, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Between the two I'd like more the first one. In the second one there's "too many angles", with the round shape is more balanced (IMO). --Andyrom75 (talk) 13:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Nice the third version, but I would let let arrows goes out from the circle to give more the idea of freedom. --Andyrom75 (talk) 12:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Between the two I'd like more the first one. In the second one there's "too many angles", with the round shape is more balanced (IMO). --Andyrom75 (talk) 13:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hey, did you maybe read on my mind? I just thought about a squared version this night (dropping out the circle), et voila... --Mess (talk) 08:20, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't see any geo-themed object in this logo. Alex Spade (talk) 12:45, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- As with some other submissions, I think it would be nice to get away from the WV initials, since they do not apply to many language versions--especially those with non-Latin writing systems. That said, this could be the starting point for a more abstracted logo focusing on the elements of motion out of one's individual sphere and into the rest of the globe. --Peter Talk 19:25, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Andyrom: OK, I'll try to adjust it as soon as possible. @Alex Spade: and so? What's the point? I don't think that some other submissions are strictly connected to a geographic theme. @Peter: it's true, you can see a WV at first sight on my logo, but I took into account non-Latin languages and I render it in order to be seen also as a route that from a starting point could take different directions around the world. Anyway, I thank you and Alex for the critics, maybe I'll create another version that might fit your needs. --Mess (talk) 21:59, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
- Here we go! I revised the third version and added a new one featuring 2 arrows that look like the Tropics (in addition, it recalls in a different key WikiVoyage's current logo). --Mess (talk) 08:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Update: I build another one from #4, using 4 crossed arrows that form a Union Jack-like pattern. --Mess (talk) 12:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, some other submissions are not connected to a geographic theme too. But they have another, more important weaknesses (important for my POV). Alex Spade (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- #5 looks like a Xmas ball :-D ... but I think you can work on #4 Try to put a "world" on that sphere, and maybe try also to work on those arrows giving them a more "mellifluous" style. --Andyrom75 (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Do you mean an abstract representation of Earth? I don't know, it would be too... messy! XD I just want to use simple geometric shapes in order to have a clean work (above all on small icons). --Mess (talk) 20:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Not abstract, just the map. Regarding the small icon, if you are not too convinced, it could be slightly different form the big one, I meant, with just the blue sphere. --Andyrom75 (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Map as background? Hmmm... It can be interesting solution. Alex Spade (talk) 21:57, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- OK, as you wish. Here it is the 6th version, with a map of the Earth that I extracted from this (I specified into the file's description that it's a derivative work, but I don't know if there are copyright issues, I don't want to infringe anything). --Mess (talk) 09:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think that anyone has the copyright on the world! (Just joking :-D .... in any case we can easily find a free globe map) I like a lot how is it coming out, but I would still work on the arrows. Initially I'll keep the two different colors and, like the current one, running into the different rotation direction of the world giving the idea of "roaming around". Secondly I'll change the shape of the arrows with a more gentle shape. --Andyrom75 (talk) 12:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Believe me, I don't get how much "gentle" would be the arrows for you. Can you give me an example, please? Regarding the colors, I decided to use the dark red to both the arrows because there's already a lot of green for the lands and blue for the water, so I wanted to balance these 3 colors. --Mess (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe for the color you are right. Being not good at drawing I can't tell you in detail what to do. I've just describe my feeling looking at it. Try to enlarge the top for a better proportion. Then I don't know if shadow/3D effect can help. --Andyrom75 (talk) 16:47, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- I retouched the arrows. I hope you like them now. --Mess (talk) 08:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Much more better! What about a third red line in the middle like a spiral? Try several version, like with just one arrow peak, another increasing the dimension from the tail to the head, or other ideas... --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:41, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- What do you think about a spiral of 4 arrows? I build it with 3 different backgrounds. --Mess (talk) 22:58, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Arrows this time are perefect, very nice, but the latest tries gives me the idea of a dangerous typhoon so the willing of stay at home and not to travel :-D Coming back to 8.6, when I've said spiral, I was thinking on an third line parallel to the others two and positioned in between. So the spiral is something that is not over the globe, but it's all around. --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand what you were thinking now. Well, I made a test with this third line, but looking all together it resembles too much either the WTO logo or the Java one (IMHO), so I prefered to give up this solution. Meanwhile, I discarded the versions #4 and #5 and I redrew them as different variations of #6. --Mess (talk) 13:24, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Arrows this time are perefect, very nice, but the latest tries gives me the idea of a dangerous typhoon so the willing of stay at home and not to travel :-D Coming back to 8.6, when I've said spiral, I was thinking on an third line parallel to the others two and positioned in between. So the spiral is something that is not over the globe, but it's all around. --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- What do you think about a spiral of 4 arrows? I build it with 3 different backgrounds. --Mess (talk) 22:58, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Much more better! What about a third red line in the middle like a spiral? Try several version, like with just one arrow peak, another increasing the dimension from the tail to the head, or other ideas... --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:41, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- I retouched the arrows. I hope you like them now. --Mess (talk) 08:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
- Maybe for the color you are right. Being not good at drawing I can't tell you in detail what to do. I've just describe my feeling looking at it. Try to enlarge the top for a better proportion. Then I don't know if shadow/3D effect can help. --Andyrom75 (talk) 16:47, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Believe me, I don't get how much "gentle" would be the arrows for you. Can you give me an example, please? Regarding the colors, I decided to use the dark red to both the arrows because there's already a lot of green for the lands and blue for the water, so I wanted to balance these 3 colors. --Mess (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think that anyone has the copyright on the world! (Just joking :-D .... in any case we can easily find a free globe map) I like a lot how is it coming out, but I would still work on the arrows. Initially I'll keep the two different colors and, like the current one, running into the different rotation direction of the world giving the idea of "roaming around". Secondly I'll change the shape of the arrows with a more gentle shape. --Andyrom75 (talk) 12:52, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- OK, as you wish. Here it is the 6th version, with a map of the Earth that I extracted from this (I specified into the file's description that it's a derivative work, but I don't know if there are copyright issues, I don't want to infringe anything). --Mess (talk) 09:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
- Do you mean an abstract representation of Earth? I don't know, it would be too... messy! XD I just want to use simple geometric shapes in order to have a clean work (above all on small icons). --Mess (talk) 20:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- #5 looks like a Xmas ball :-D ... but I think you can work on #4 Try to put a "world" on that sphere, and maybe try also to work on those arrows giving them a more "mellifluous" style. --Andyrom75 (talk) 17:08, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- Here we go! I revised the third version and added a new one featuring 2 arrows that look like the Tropics (in addition, it recalls in a different key WikiVoyage's current logo). --Mess (talk) 08:16, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
- @Andyrom: OK, I'll try to adjust it as soon as possible. @Alex Spade: and so? What's the point? I don't think that some other submissions are strictly connected to a geographic theme. @Peter: it's true, you can see a WV at first sight on my logo, but I took into account non-Latin languages and I render it in order to be seen also as a route that from a starting point could take different directions around the world. Anyway, I thank you and Alex for the critics, maybe I'll create another version that might fit your needs. --Mess (talk) 21:59, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
[a capo] I see a good potential in 8.4, but the arrows should be "fatter". --Pequod76(talk) 16:35, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip, I enlarged them. --Mess (talk) 20:23, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
- Anyway, which of my logos do you like much? I would like to choose up to 3, because I don't want to submit too much proposals. --Mess (talk) 17:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be careful with the four red arrows - it gets a bit close to a swastika - and especially with the red color give a bad vibe. If you do part green, part red, it is much less. Effeietsanders (talk) 11:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- You're perfectly right, they look very ambiguous with that configuration. I choose to withdraw that design (together with other proposals), so I'll keep only #1, #4 and #6 for the contest. --Mess (talk) 13:22, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'd be careful with the four red arrows - it gets a bit close to a swastika - and especially with the red color give a bad vibe. If you do part green, part red, it is much less. Effeietsanders (talk) 11:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
- Anyway, which of my logos do you like much? I would like to choose up to 3, because I don't want to submit too much proposals. --Mess (talk) 17:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
