Oct 07 16:49:02 <Amgine> Keegan: etherpad link is to etherpad:9-23-10 <- Sept 23
Oct 07 16:49:22 <Keegan> Ah, I need to remove that anyway
Oct 07 16:49:35 <Keegan> We're not doing it public this time.
Oct 07 16:49:50 <Amgine> <nods>
Oct 07 16:50:48 <Keegan> meganrhernandez: unless that has changed...
Oct 07 16:50:53 <Jamesofur> full copy of campaign up on test right now if people want to do last minute throwing at it
Oct 07 16:50:57 <Keegan> Philippe said don't do it last week
Oct 07 16:50:58 <Jamesofur> 1 banner 6 landing pages
Oct 07 16:51:32 * Keegan goes to fetch caffeine real quick
Oct 07 16:51:36 <Keegan> And Hi, Amgine!
Oct 07 16:51:37 <jeremyb> how inclusive is this channel? does it include rhandler or in person donation boxes? :-P
Oct 07 16:51:55 <Keegan> This is a completely public forum
Oct 07 16:52:12 <jeremyb> sure, i knew that!
Oct 07 16:52:12 <Keegan> We encourage its use to those that can't participate by phone to test browsers and settings
Oct 07 16:52:22 <Keegan> And offer general observations and questions
Oct 07 16:52:44 <Amgine> to those who... <wiktionarian knee-jerk>
Oct 07 16:53:01 <jeremyb> but does it include any part of "fundraising" besides the big onwiki fundraisers?
Oct 07 16:53:12 <Keegan> I don't see why not
Oct 07 16:53:21 <Keegan> But rhandler doesn't get on IRC very often
Oct 07 16:53:37 <jeremyb> i figured
Oct 07 16:54:41 <Keegan> Some of us are long time IRC users, some aren't as familiar (staff wise)
Oct 07 16:54:58 * Keegan now actually goes for the caffeine
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Oct 07 16:59:53 <Keegan> My bathroom light is burned out {{nobody cares}}
Oct 07 17:00:16 <Amgine> {sofixit}{w/cfl}
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Oct 07 17:03:21 <meganrhernandez> hi all
Oct 07 17:03:29 <meganrhernandez> so we are delayed a few minutes
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Oct 07 17:05:02 <Keegan> is 801 756 596 still the meeting number?
Oct 07 17:05:07 <Amgine> While we're waiting, how can people not involved with the fundraising tech help out in this channel for these weekly meetings?
Oct 07 17:05:42 <Keegan> Amgine: We can always review banner submissions for out beat Jimmy challenge
Oct 07 17:05:48 <Keegan> *our
Oct 07 17:06:24 <Amgine> <grin> Sounds great! where can we do that? how do we submit reviews?
Oct 07 17:07:18 <Keegan> You can comment below each submitted banner
Oct 07 17:07:25 <Amgine> <nods>
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Oct 07 17:13:03 * Jamesofur has changed the topic to: 10-04 stat spreadsheet: http://<removed shorturl>/10_07stats | Wikimedia Foundation fundraising | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010 | Join us live by phone http://<removed shorturl>/28fopvo | Live banner testing on en.wp 22:00 to 24:00 UTC
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Oct 07 17:13:51 <BarkingFish> evening guys
Oct 07 17:14:09 <Jamesofur> evening barking fish :)
Oct 07 17:14:16 * guillom peeks.
Oct 07 17:14:34 <BarkingFish> we're live in 45 mins right?
Oct 07 17:14:40 <dgultekin> Hey BarkingFish
Oct 07 17:14:45 * BarkingFish can't remember if we're still in BST or not
Oct 07 17:14:49 <BarkingFish> hi dgultekin
Oct 07 17:14:55 <dgultekin> yep, live in 45. We're just trying to get in to a room to do the call
Oct 07 17:15:05 <BarkingFish> ok
Oct 07 17:15:10 <BarkingFish> same problem as last time?
Oct 07 17:15:32 <Jamesofur> BarkingFish: yup 45 minutes is planned though it may be a bit late today because some tweaks are still being done on some landing pages
Oct 07 17:15:34 <dgultekin> The board is in the office - we have a room shortage
Oct 07 17:15:38 <Jamesofur> ^
Oct 07 17:15:48 <AlexZ_> yeah
Oct 07 17:16:34 <BarkingFish> er...
Oct 07 17:16:41 <dgultekin> er?
Oct 07 17:16:46 <BarkingFish> I just went to join the meeting and it's asking me for a password :)
Oct 07 17:17:04 <AlexZ_> yeah I had mentioned that to megan earlier
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Oct 07 17:17:21 <BarkingFish> it hasn't done that before, so is there one available or is it a glitch?
Oct 07 17:17:37 <AlexZ_> well I directly called in
Oct 07 17:17:41 <dgultekin> Let me check, we're migrating to the correct room
Oct 07 17:18:02 <AlexZ_> I think the web access is just being odd
Oct 07 17:18:42 <jeremyb> dgultekin: not the whole board...
Oct 07 17:18:57 <BarkingFish> nope, it's confirming i DO need a pw. I just tried joining without one, and it's saying the meeting password is incorrect, AlexZ_
Oct 07 17:19:12 <dgultekin> BarkingFish: try Wikipresentation
Oct 07 17:19:15 <AlexZ_> BarkingFish, right. That's what I was saying.
Oct 07 17:19:23 <AlexZ_> it's being odd ans asking
Oct 07 17:19:26 <AlexZ_> *and
Oct 07 17:19:42 <BarkingFish> dgultekin, confirmed. it's valid
Oct 07 17:19:54 <dgultekin> Okay good, sorry about that.
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Oct 07 17:22:51 <Amgine> Uhm, has anyone noticed the Jimmy appeal begins with "Please read:", and none of the other banners do?
Oct 07 17:23:37 <Keegan> This is a good point
Oct 07 17:23:41 <BarkingFish> yes, I'd assume that's because it's an attention grabber - a personal appeal from the boss.
Oct 07 17:24:10 <Keegan> Well, there are options to make a please read with a donor quote, perhaps
Oct 07 17:24:13 <dgultekin> Perhaps we should do some "please reads" for the Jimmy challenge next week
Oct 07 17:24:25 <dgultekin> or another compelling letter from someone
Oct 07 17:24:29 <dgultekin> a donor, a reader, an editor
Oct 07 17:24:39 <Keegan> The nobel laureate like whoah
Oct 07 17:24:44 <Keegan> It's a paragraph
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Oct 07 17:25:02 <BarkingFish> hi kaldari
Oct 07 17:25:24 <guillom> BarkingFish, many people don't know who Jimmy is, or that he's "the boss" (I'd challenge that, as a sidenote ;)
Oct 07 17:26:06 <BarkingFish> well founder then. I wonder just how many wikipedians don't know he created the site...
Oct 07 17:26:24 <Amgine> No, "Please read:" is a specific advertising technique, called various things. It's an attempt to break the reader's train of thought, allowing the following message to be observed.
Oct 07 17:26:55 <Amgine> It doesn't matter *what* the following message is.
Oct 07 17:27:42 <Amgine> <goes back to skimming banners>
Oct 07 17:27:51 <kaldari> BarkingFish: howdy
Oct 07 17:28:33 <dgultekin> Here is the etherpad we'll be using today: etherpad:JyATfaaTH9
Oct 07 17:28:40 <Keegan> We're stalled for a few minutes, folks
Oct 07 17:28:57 <BarkingFish> just as a forethought, anyone have a rough list of what we're testing tonight and where?
Oct 07 17:29:43 <Keegan> Thanks, adjusted on meta dgultekin
Oct 07 17:30:01 <BarkingFish> Is that for anyone to sign onto, dgultekin or just people in the office?
Oct 07 17:30:01 <dgultekin> Feel free to contribute to it, it'll mostly be used as notes from this meeting which we will make publicly available on meta and in an 'update' form
Oct 07 17:30:09 <BarkingFish> ok, that answers my q :)
Oct 07 17:30:10 <dgultekin> Anyone
Oct 07 17:30:10 <Keegan> Just the jimmy banner, six landing pages, and only en.wiki
Oct 07 17:30:28 <dgultekin> Yes, tonight is mostly to test landing pages
Oct 07 17:30:41 <Keegan> Oh, and for two hours
Oct 07 17:30:56 <dgultekin> Instead of our usual one
Oct 07 17:31:31 <BarkingFish> I thought it was supposed to be multilingual tonight, that was what I understood from the last meet :)
Oct 07 17:31:37 <BarkingFish> Or have plans changed?
Oct 07 17:31:52 <Keegan> Plans changed
Oct 07 17:31:56 <BarkingFish> ok
Oct 07 17:31:57 <Keegan> Testing the backend
Oct 07 17:32:01 <Keegan> I think
Oct 07 17:32:36 <dgultekin> we're doing a multilingual test on Tuesday with the 'beat Jimmy' challenge
Oct 07 17:32:56 <BarkingFish> ok
Oct 07 17:33:05 <BarkingFish> same time?
Oct 07 17:33:28 <dgultekin> We're testing multilingual banners against Jimmy
Oct 07 17:33:54 <BarkingFish> that's a no contest for a start :D
Oct 07 17:34:19 <BarkingFish> Seeing how well Jimmy did first time round, i think that's a foregone conclusion
Oct 07 17:34:36 <dgultekin> Moving rooms again, we shall be back :)
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Oct 07 17:35:18 <BarkingFish> shall we have a quiet game of musical chairs while they're gone? :)
Oct 07 17:35:54 * guillom has changed the topic to: 10-07 stat spreadsheet: http://<removed shorturl>/10_07stats | Wikimedia Foundation fundraising | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010 | Join us live by phone http://<removed shorturl>/28fopvo | Live banner testing on en.wp 22:00 to 24:00 UTC | Today is nomadic fundraiser day.
Oct 07 17:36:07 <Keegan> Ha
Oct 07 17:36:08 <AlexZ_> hehe
Oct 07 17:36:20 <Keegan> I was going to suggest hiding the chairs
Oct 07 17:36:28 <BarkingFish> perfect
Oct 07 17:36:32 <guillom> I'm sorry, but it's hilarious to see them switch rooms every 5 minutes.
Oct 07 17:36:53 <Keegan> No need to apologize, I'd be laughing too
Oct 07 17:36:53 <BarkingFish> i've heard of changing rooms, but this is nuts :)
Oct 07 17:36:55 <AlexZ_> :)
Oct 07 17:37:00 <AlexZ_> ya
Oct 07 17:37:04 <dgultekin> I agree
Oct 07 17:37:05 <dgultekin> this is nuts
Oct 07 17:37:07 <dgultekin> :)
Oct 07 17:37:12 <BarkingFish> Why don't you just knock a damn great hole in the wall and walk through it :)
Oct 07 17:37:22 <dgultekin> The tech team was laughing at the parade of fundraisers moving room to room
Oct 07 17:37:42 <Keegan> Because we raise the fun
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Oct 07 17:38:09 <BarkingFish> incidentally, if anyone hears a heavy breather over the mic, please let me know, my shirt hasn't got many places for my tieclip mic :)
Oct 07 17:38:22 <BarkingFish> so it's about 6in under my nose
Oct 07 17:38:26 <dgultekin> It's fleet week here - so if you hear fighter jets over the phone, do not fear
Oct 07 17:39:41 <dgultekin> We're not being attacked, just demonstrating our patriotism... I guess
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Oct 07 17:40:11 <BarkingFish> either that or Cheyenne issued a Red card, dgultekin :)
Oct 07 17:40:39 <Keegan> Okay, the crew is settled and back to bidniz
Oct 07 17:42:33 <dgultekin> BarkingFish: lol
Oct 07 17:42:57 <Keegan> So we're doing some tests from test credit donations for a last check
Oct 07 17:43:58 <BarkingFish> Keegan, logged in, anon or both?
Oct 07 17:44:18 <BarkingFish> ok
Oct 07 17:44:18 <Keegan> anon
Oct 07 17:44:21 <BarkingFish> cheers
Oct 07 17:44:44 <Keegan> and let us know what tunnel you used
Oct 07 17:45:51 <BarkingFish> no tunnel, I'm ipv4 - running IE8 only at the moment
Oct 07 18:01:59 <BarkingFish> good call at writing "postponing" :)
Oct 07 18:02:56 <Jamesofur> awjr: I did get my thank you email btw
Oct 07 18:02:56 <BarkingFish> can someone ID which landing page is borked?
Oct 07 18:03:28 <tomaszf> BarkingFish: awjr already sent that out 2010_testing44&masthead=2010/JimmyAppealShort&form_name=TwoColumn&language=en&utm_source_id=13
Oct 07 18:03:43 <BarkingFish> sorry tomaszf - missed it :)
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Oct 07 18:04:23 * Keegan pets snerk
Oct 07 18:07:25 <Amgine> <thinks there is nothing in the banner list which will challenge the Jimmy ad>
Oct 07 18:07:27 <meganrhernandez> thanks, BarkingFish
Oct 07 18:08:23 <BarkingFish> sorry, didn't mean to embarass you - I still haven't worked out how etherpad works properly, do the colors in the main box correspond with the ones assigned in the chat box?
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Oct 07 18:08:29 <Schapman> here i am
Oct 07 18:08:38 <dgultekin> Found you :)
Oct 07 18:08:48 <tomaszf> BarkingFish: yes
Oct 07 18:09:10 <BarkingFish> ok, cool. I've never used an etherpad before, so new experience for me
Oct 07 18:09:44 <dgultekin> It's a poor spellers worst nightmare
Oct 07 18:09:52 <dgultekin> aka mine
Oct 07 18:10:54 <BarkingFish> tell me about it. My spelling is a nightmare. I'm ok on here, but put me on pen and paper and I can barely read my own handwriting!
Oct 07 18:11:06 <BarkingFish> Let alone work out what I've spelled, or how
Oct 07 18:11:37 <dgultekin> I blame my handwriting on my computer use
Oct 07 18:26:11 <BarkingFish> meganrhernandez, personally i think you're gonna get your best results from the most personal & fastest method - so image, horizontal layout (less scrolling down page) and one step payment.
