Grants talk:PEG/Satdeep Gill/January 2016 Events/Report

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WMF comments[edit]

Hi Satdeep, thank you for your work to organize these events. We enjoyed reading your report. Not only did you share many interesting details, but it sounds like the events were a success despite challenges you have mentioned getting reliable internet for events. Please see our questions and comments below:

  • One goal was to improve quality - do you think these workshops were effective at improving quality?
  • What kind of activity/task did the young students do on Wikisource? It would be very helpful to other communities if you would share advice or training materials on how to teach students to edit Wikisource.
  • It is great to hear you had support from a local organization for the Kotkapura workshop - in what ways did they help with organization and ensuring good participation?
  • Do you think there is an ideal ratio to make the newcomer/veteran thing work well? Is there something you will do differently next time?
  • The survey questions you asked were really interesting - especially the part about many students having internet at home, but not knowing about Wikipedia or having experience typing in Punjabi. Did you find that teaching students to type in Punjabi was difficult? Was it effective?
  • What are you doing to follow up with workshop participants to encourage them to continue editing?
  • It is great that the workshops are motivating editors, and that they are requesting more workshops. Below are some things you might consider as you plan additional workshops:
    • You might consider doing a survey to find out what topics or skills editors want to learn in workshops.
    • Consider the level of skill/experience of workshop participants - it might make sense to host separate workshops for newer and more experience editors. You could host them at the same time in different rooms to allow new and veteran editors to socialize during breaks.
    • Think about asking some of the newer editors to help lead/organize/support future workshops
    • Research other local organizations who might be able to offer space/internet to host events.

Let me know if you have questions, and if you would like to schedule a phone call to discuss your plans for future events. Cheers, --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 19:57, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Kacie, Here are my answers:

  • No actually, these workshops only helped in letting more people participate.
  • We do not have an OCR for Punjabi as of now so basically students typed some texts. They typed this small Punjabi text from 1910 and half typed another text from 1912. This helped them in getting accustomed to typing in Punjabi.
  • The organization organized the whole event and invited potential editors from the region to participate. They also ensured to help the event get coverage in the all major Punjabi newspapers. All we did was go there, do our workshop and pay for everything.
  • This is a difficult question. I am actually thinking a lot about it. Not all veteran editors are good at teaching others and we can not call them for every workshop as well. I guess limiting the number of participants is also an option. I would like advice from WMF and others to help me in this. It becomes quite difficult to answer and help everyone once they start editing on their computers.
  • Many students found it pretty easy to type in Punjabi using the keyboard layout we gave them in printed form.
  • We have added the editors in Punjabi Wikipedia facebook group. Some of them do ask some questions from time to time. I guess we might plan a follow up event as well.
    • All these ideas are great. We will surely consider them while organzing future events.

Thanks a lot. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 10:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Satdeep Gill, thank you for posting such well thought out answers to our questions - its great to see examples of the work done during the events, and the strategies you used to help students who were just learning to type in Punjabi. Perhaps asking experienced editors to volunteer for 30 minutes or one hour of an editathon to go around answering questions would be a good way to support new editors without having to 'teach' in a group setting. In the end, each editathon may be different, so it is a good idea to keep experimenting until you find out what works best for you community. --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 22:41, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Reallocation request[edit]

@KHarold (WMF): We request the remaining grant money of 24,670 INR (~370 USD) for the following events:
  1. April 2016 - Article Improving Edit-a-thon - 90 USD

See additional details here: Grants:PEG/Satdeep_Gill/Punjabi_Wikipedia_Article_Improving_Edit-a-thon Notes on how quality will be evaluated: "Most of the articles are being translated from English Wikipedia and most of them does contain the same references. We had many one-liner stubs which are being improved now. We don't have any other metrics to keep an eye on quality as of now."

Number Category Item description Unit Number of units Cost per unit Total cost Currency Notes
1 Prize Distribution Award 1 20 200 4000 INR
2 Prize Distribution Certificate of Partcipation 1 20 20 400 INR
3 Prize Distribution Unforeseen/Incidental 1600 INR
Total Budget 6000 INR
Your request to reallocate 6,000 INR for prizes in the article improving ediathon is approved. --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 20:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  1. June 2016 - Punjabi Wikipedia Birthday Celebration - 280 USD - We are planning a one day event.
Please provide more details about this event, including a budget, goal, and expected participation. Thank you, --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Kacie, We are having a meeting on 1st May 2016. We expect around 10 participants. We would like to ask for 2000 INR (~30 USD) for this meetup (We will be giving some travel reimbursements and snacks to the participants). We will be mainly discussing WikiConference India. We are also expecting Parveer Grewal to share his learnings from WMCON 2016. We will be discussing about the Celebration event as well.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 16:28, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
The request to spend 2000 INR on the May 1st meeting is approved. --KHarold (WMF) (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
We spend 1184 Rs. on May 1st meeting and 816 Rs. left. --Parveer Grewal (talk) 20:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)